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Leaders/E4 using Pokemon whose Megas change to a different type, yes or no?

AdamEternal

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I edited the OP again. Now the thing to fill out goes like this:

Spoiler:
Username:
In-Game Name:
Faction: (X/Y or Showdown)
Type 1:
Type 2:
Style: (Single, Double, Triple, Rotation)


We should start cataloging these.


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Also, you guys are gonna need to pick yer types. Right now, the first types available are Grass and Electric. The second types currently available are Psychic, Normal, and Poison. Since there's four of you and only 2 primary types and 3 secondary types available, the list will reset with all types being available after the types are used up. The order for type picking will be:

1) Dialga
2) Lucky #13
3) Blue Cotton Candy
4) Kitsuki

So, Dialga, which will you choose for your first type: Grass or Electric?
I'm sorry to interject, but this seems like a punishment for those who signed up first. If someone else signed up before them, they'd have free reign of types.

I'd suggest have one of those five choices required for each remaining signee, and allow a second of anything with no duplication among those second choices. Otherwise it's actually a disadvantage for Lucky #13 and Blue Cotton Candy having one type mandated without any option (moreso for Lucky #13 having to pick two out of three), and Kitsuki basically gets any two of the 18 types desired. I think mandating a primary of the five available is better, and allow any secondary choice without duplication. The mandated choice can also be a secondary, but the point is four of those five must be represented.

Translation: Dialga can, for example, pick Poison and any other type (let's say Dragon). Lucky #13 can then pick anything except for Poison, and any secondary type EXCEPT what Dialga picks, meaning no Dragon. And so on.

The second choice can also be one of the five mandated types, but would only count for duplication in second column selection, meaning someone else can still pick it as a first choice.

Sound fair?

BTW, Steel, being tripled already, is not available for any further selections. That also seems fair.

EDIT: Lucky #13 also said he wants to pick types not yet represented. If he wants Grass and Poison, I'm all right with that. No matter what Dialga chooses, either of those options is still available as a first pick and the other as a second pick in either order by my suggestion. So I say if Lucky #13 doesn't want to change that, lock that in to save time and figure out the arranging in the type lists later.
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I'm sorry to interject, but this seems like a punishment for those who signed up first. If someone else signed up before them, they'd have free reign of types.

I'd suggest have one of those five choices required for each remaining signee, and allow a second of anything with no duplication among those second choices. Otherwise it's actually a disadvantage for Lucky #13 and Blue Cotton Candy having one type mandated without any option (moreso for Lucky #13 having to pick two out of three), and Kitsuki basically gets any two of the 18 types desired. I think mandating a primary of the five available is better, and allow any secondary choice without duplication. The mandated choice can also be a secondary, but the point is four of those five must be represented.

Translation: Dialga can, for example, pick Poison and any other type (let's say Dragon). Lucky #13 can then pick anything except for Poison, and any secondary type EXCEPT what Dialga picks, meaning no Dragon. And so on.

The second choice can also be one of the five mandated types, but would only count for duplication in second column selection, meaning someone else can still pick it as a first choice.

Sound fair?

BTW, Steel, being tripled already, is not available for any further selections. That also seems fair.

EDIT: Lucky #13 also said he wants to pick types not yet represented. If he wants Grass and Poison, I'm all right with that. No matter what Dialga chooses, either of those options is still available as a first pick and the other as a second pick in either order by my suggestion. So I say if Lucky #13 doesn't want to change that, lock that in to save time and figure out the arranging in the type lists later.
Sure, that sounds fine. I'll edit those things in, and give Lucky Grass/Poison unless Dialga really wants one of those types or something.
and holy **** stop editing your posts so much, I got like 7 notifications all for this one post
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Sure, that sounds fine. I'll edit those things in, and give Lucky Grass/Poison unless Dialga really wants one of those types or something.
and holy **** stop editing your posts so much, I got like 7 notifications all for this one post
Sorry. I used Preview, but it wasn't very effective. I've seen 8 notifications once for the same thing in another thread. I even got one for someone's post quoting me being deleted. That made me laugh.

And I'll point out again: Grass and Poison can be locked in for Lucky #13 if there is no other combination desired. With both Grass and Poison listed, even if Dialga chooses Grass first and Poison second, Lucky #13 can choose Poison first and Grass second. So it's safe to lock in.

EDIT: Of course, if Dialga picks those two types, Lucky #13 might want a different combination.
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So wait, which are we going with? We had brought this idea up a while ago, scrapped it, then brought it back.
I believe - we're going with challengers pick six, can't change Pokemon but can change moves items and builds *only* when switching formats. Leaders can change their teams freely but are type locked with no exceptions outside their 2 types.

I'mmmmmm gonna PM all those guys with options and see if I can get priority lists. This is getting pretty complicated lol

Also, if someone on showdown and someone on X/Y would be cool enough to trade a steel type to balance that a bit, that'd be cool :3 it doesn't NEED to happen but if it could, cool beans.
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Also, if someone on showdown and someone on X/Y would be cool enough to trade a steel type to balance that a bit, that'd be cool :3 it doesn't NEED to happen but if it could, cool beans.
If I may suggest something...

Elite: Exile, Steel & Flying Types, Singles
Elite: enigma, Fairy & Steel Types, Singles
Leader: Falkbalk, Rock & Steel Types, Singles
I would suggest either Exile or enigma change as both are Elites.

Of course, something like that would take a Ground typing out of the Elites on the 3DS side, where two Elites have Ground typing.
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If I may suggest something...


I would suggest either Exile or enigma change as both are Elites.

Of course, something like that would take a Ground typing out of the Elites on the 3DS side, where two Elites have Ground typing.
Well they picked those types legitimately so it's not like we can make them change. Not without being dicks about it anyways. Lets not do that though; because someone may legitimately just be cool enough to change for the sake of balance. THAT BEING SAID- exile and enigma, if either of you two wants to switch your type with any other type not already twice occurring in the elite 4 of the showdown division, go ahead and switch. Only whomever does it first though :U because we don't wanna throw too much out of whack.

If you guys still need more 3ds people im in...
We do actually. I have to ask though, are you prepared to be as active as joining requires? And would you be able to have a team for your dual typing ready by Wednesday at the latest if you join?
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Ok, so I'm gonna add you guys to the list. As of now, all Showdown positions have been filled (which I'm surprised about; it seemed like 3DS was gonna fill up first). We still have one 3DS position open since Adam is bowing out of that. Kitsuki, since you didn't specify which division, are you ok with being a part of the 3DS division?

Don't think I can do a decent team by Wednesday unless someone does want to help with breeders but I'll have to use my Sister's X to do it then she said It was fine as long I don't get rid of any good ones. Im still stuck on Yveltal in Y.


If you are a new leader on X/Y - and want/need help getting your team together by Wednesday, ask around. We've got lots of helpful and experienced battlers and breeders.
If I could get some help I would surly appreciate it. I'll try my best to breed some myself, And if I could get some recommendations on who would be willing to breed or trade till i can get one up. I don't know what her Safari is but she has access to Dark (Pawnaird, Sneasel) and Water (Gyarados...)


Username: Kitsuki
In-Game Name: Yosuke
Faction: X and Y (would prefer Showdown though)
Type 1: Electric
Type 2: Psychic
Style: Doubles
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what pokemon types are left? i know my friend might want to join, she's in the clear haha, and interested for x and y.
It might be necessary to wait and see what types are in each division after the newest three pick. At that point, the "first pick" list will be exhausted, as Zekrom took both Grass and Poison off of it; I guess this keeps them both as second type options, though, so that works.

I might work on a chart of coverage in each division. It's late tonite, however.
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It might be necessary to wait and see what types are in each division after the newest three pick. At that point, the "first pick" list will be exhausted, as Zekrom took both Grass and Poison off of it; I guess this keeps them both as second type options, though, so that works.

I might work on a chart of coverage in each division. It's late tonite, however.
please do so dude, we really need that here. and maybe once you're done with it, stick it as a link in your signature. That would be really helpful!
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please do so dude, we really need that here. and maybe once you're done with it, stick it as a link in your signature. That would be really helpful!
No, my signature is not for that kind of list. It's on the verge of being too big as it is; heck, I already shrunk that picture.

Zekrom can utilize it for planning purposes, however, once I'm done.
"Y'know...my Emolga really wants to shock your Dedenne."

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No, my signature is not for that kind of list. It's on the verge of being too big as it is; heck, I already shrunk that picture.

Zekrom can utilize it for planning purposes, however, once I'm done.
Oh ok that sounds good. Well, hope to see that done, no rush!! (:<
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:O That was a lot to read through, looking forward to the beta :D

If you guys need help with breeding I can help out :)

EDIT: Oh question, was it decided how long the beta will run for? I understand it's a trial run but hopefully it's not too long/too short so you can gather data.
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Minimum 2 weeks, maximum 2 months sounds fair :0 somewhere in between or on either end of that could work too.

Depends what everyone feels like though I suppose. We need enough time for challengers to have the chance to play all the leaders + elites, and that's accounting for when everyone's available. We don't want it to run so long as to detract from the actual launch or delay that either though.
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Sure, that sounds fine. I'll edit those things in, and give Lucky Grass/Poison unless Dialga really wants one of those types or something.
and holy **** stop editing your posts so much, I got like 7 notifications all for this one post
Well I would be interested in Normal Types, and could you tell me what other types are available?

Edit: I have to go see a family member today, she is not doing to well. But I will be on when I get back.

Username: BlueCottonCandy
Division: 3ds
Type 1: Normal
Type 2: Fairy (If i can't be fairy, it is alright :P)
Battle Type: Double and/or Single

Sorry for editing my post A lot... I won't be on that much today as i have a sick family member. She is my Great Aunt and means alot to me.

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Ok, so I've added BlueCottonCandy and Kitsuki's types and battle formats to the OP.
Which means that all slots have been filled. There is no more room for people to join. (Sorry Megaseeker, maybe a spot will open up in the future)

And if I got this right, this is the list of remaining types (so Adam if you could throw this into the OP):
Fire
Rock
Dragon
Water
Ice
Bug
Dark
Ground
Fighting
Flying
Ghost



I won't be on that much today as i have a sick family member. She is my Great Aunt and means alot to me.
It's cool. Focus on your sick great aunt; that's more important. There's not much happening right now anyway; we're mainly just waiting for everyone to finish their teams and for Cakesu to make the badges at this point.
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Ok, so I've added BlueCottonCandy and Kitsuki's types and battle formats to the OP.
Which means that all slots have been filled. There is no more room for people to join. (Sorry Megaseeker, maybe a spot will open up in the future)

And if I got this right, this is the list of remaining types (so Adam if you could throw this into the OP):
Fire
Rock
Dragon
Water
Ice
Bug
Dark
Ground
Fighting
Flying
Ghost




It's cool. Focus on your sick great aunt; that's more important. There's not much happening right now anyway; we're mainly just waiting for everyone to finish their teams and for Cakesu to make the badges at this point.
Okay I just visited her, and I will be going back tomorrow. And I will most likely be spending all day with her, So i am free today.

Also, How is the order of the gym leaders go? And Can Gym Leaders have mega pokemon?
And can i have a mixed type pokemon such as Fairy/Fire... (I know a fire fairy pokemon doesn't exist, just using it as an example.)

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Okay I just visited her, and I will be going back tomorrow. And I will most likely be spending all day with her, So i am free today.

Also, How is the order of the gym leaders go? And Can Gym Leaders have mega pokemon?
And can i have a mixed type pokemon such as Fairy/Fire... (I know a fire fairy pokemon doesn't exist, just using it as an example.)
Gym Leaders can be challenged in any order, though you must beat all the ones in a division before taking on the Elites. You can use Mega Pokemon, so long as they aren't on the ban list (which right now the only 2 megas on the ban list are Mega Lucario and Mega Blaziken). And yes, you can have Pokemon of mixed types, so long as all your Pokemon are least partly one of the types you picked.
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Gym Leaders can be challenged in any order, though you must beat all the ones in a division before taking on the Elites. You can use Mega Pokemon, so long as they aren't on the ban list (which right now the only 2 megas on the ban list are Mega Lucario and Mega Blaziken). And yes, you can have Pokemon of mixed types, so long as all your Pokemon are least partly one of the types you picked.
Ok :)
I think I read somewhere that we can have more than 6 pokemon and switch them?? Is that true?

EDIT: I have to go back to the hospital... She called for me, so I got to.

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Ok :)
I think I read somewhere that we can have more than 6 pokemon and switch them?? Is that true?

EDIT: I have to go back to the hospital... She called for me, so I got to.
You can change up your team as much as you want. Just don't try to counter-team your challengers.
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I don't think I can get a decent team ready by Wednesday, between work and my family reunion and my own family issues on both sides, I won't have enough time on X and Y even with help unfortunately. I'm sorry but I must forfeit my position as a Gym leader. I was hoping to get Showdown but its been filled when I was out.
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All right. A 3DS types distribution chart. This chart is with three people still needing to select types (two listed, one spot blank on Zekrom's edited info).

Spoiler:
All with two selections among the group:
- Ground
- Ghost
- Dark

This group all has a single selection each among members of the 3DS group:
- Fighting
- Flying
- Poison
- Fire
- Water
- Ice
- Dragon
- Fairy

These types have no selections in the 3DS division, and therefore those that SHOULD be encouraged as selections:
- Normal
- Rock
- Bug
- Steel
- Grass
- Electric
- Psychic

Moving on to the Showdown type distribution chart. I note that the Showdown Division IS COMPLETE based on Zekrom's latest updates, though this type distribution may have an impact still on the 3DS Division to get more types represented there (see below).

Spoiler:
Selected three times and banned from selection ATM:
- Steel

Selected twice in the Showdown Division:
- Rock
- Bug
- Grass

Selected once only in Showdown:
- Normal
- Fighting
- Flying
- Poison
- Fire
- Water
- Electric
- Psychic
- Ice
- Dragon
- Fairy

Not selected or represented in the Showdown Division:
- Ground
- Ghost
- Dark

If the divisions are combined, there is no type that is not represented at least once. Steel remains the only type chosen three times, and all in one Division. The remainder are chosen only once or twice; for simplicity, the following types are ones that are only selected once between both divisions:
- Normal
- Electric
- Psychic

Anything not listed here (14 other types) are all picked twice between divisions.

You'll also notice this matches the list that has been used for selections already.

I recommend first picks be those that are only selected once between Divisions as I already recommended. Second picks should be limited to all unrepresented types in the 3DS Division EXCEPT Steel (which would be available if someone changes in the Showdown Division). Normal, Electric, and Psychic can therefore be chosen twice, while Rock, Bug, and Grass can be chosen as a second pick once each. If desired, the second picks can be limited to the latter three to ensure everything except Steel is represented.
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