RMT Rate my Team [GEN 6 OU]

Started by TalonRaptor August 10th, 2014 10:19 AM
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Hi everybody. I'm new to this community so I apologise in advance if I have incorrectly posted this. Anyway, recently I made a gen 6 OU team just for fun and after some games on showdown - it proved quite successful. There were however times when i got swept.

Just to say I am one of those people who like using non-OU pokemon in OU, if you know what I'm saying. I'd like some feedback on the team please and possibly advice to make it better.

The Team (sorry I can't post images yet) :

Lapras @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 136 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Body Slam

Absol @ Absolite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
- Megahorn
- Play Rough

Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Knock Off
- Bug Bite

Weezing @ Black Sludge
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Clear Smog
- Flamethrower
- Pain Split

Chandelure @ Choice Specs
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Overheat
- Flamethrower
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball

Staraptor @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Reckless
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Close Combat
- Double-Edge
- U-turn

One Pokemon that seems a threat is skarmory. That's one thing I've picked up. Thanks!

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Nah, this is the right place.

Skarm's probably a major threat to you because your team is very physically based, and Skarmory is one of the best physical walls out there. Your only real answer to it is Chandelure, but if that's dead, you don't have much to deal with it, especially since it resists most of the attacks of your set-up sweepers, Scizor and Mega Absol.

So, to do something about that, maybe change Lapras into a special attacker? Something like this:

Lapras @ Assault Vest
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 SpD or HP
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Freeze-Dry
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Shard

Skarmory has trouble with this set, since:

252+ SpA Lapras Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 216-256 (64.6 - 76.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Lapras Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 198-234 (59.2 - 70%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Unless that Lapras set has been doing wonders for you.

One other little thing is that Chandelure should use a Timid nature if using Specs; it hits really hard with the Specs and EVs, so Timid helps ensure that it isn't easily outsped. Also, you might wanna replace Megahorn on Absol with something like Superpower to give it extra coverage.
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As much as I hate to say this, Lapras kinda sucks in standard play. It lacks power compared to its fellow Water brethren and its defensive typing is terrible. Since you said that you use lower-tiered mons, Slowbro, Slowking and Starmie (who dropped to UU this gen) are lower-tiered Pokemon that have OU relevance and do what Lapras can do better:

Starmie:
-Hydro Pump
-Psyshock/Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure/Analytic

or
-Scald
-Rapid Spin
-Reflect Type
-Recover
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/32 Def/224 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

Slowbro:
-Scald
-Psyshock/Ice Beam/Fire Blast
-Thunder Wave/Toxic
-Slack Off
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/232 Def/24 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator

Slowking:
-Scald
-Psychic/Dragon Tail
-Fire Blast
-Power Gem/Ice Beam
Nature: Calm/Sassy
EVs: 248 HP/164 SAtk/92 SDef
Item: Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator

or
-Scald
-Psyshock
-Thunder Wave
-Slack Off
Nature: Calm
EVs: 248 HP/44 Def/216 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Regenerator

Absol needs to be mixed so that it's not entirely walled by physical walls:
-Sucker Punch
-Knock Off/Night Slash (latter if this is cartridge only)
-Ice Beam/Fire Blast
-Superpower/Play Rough (latter if this is cartridge only)
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Absolite
Ability: Justified/Super Luck

Offensive Scizor uses the standard sweeper max Attack/max Speed spread, as Life Orb compromises Scizor's bulk for each attack and it doesn't have Roost to replenish itself.

Really, I don't think Weezing is viable. I'd say that Amoonguss is one of the more popular lower-tier Pokemon to use simply because of Regenerator. Amoonguss also forms a nice Regenerator core with Slowbro/Slowking. Amoonguss poses more of a threat than Weezing because of Spore incapacitating a non-Grass/Overcoat Pokemon:
-Spore
-Giga Drain
-Foul Play/Sludge Bomb (latter for cartridge)
-Clear Smog/Sludge Bomb
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/136 Def/120 SDef
Item: Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator

Stallbreaker Chandelure is the better option because Chandelure faces stiff competition from Heatran as a Choice user because of its Stealth Rock weakness:
-Shadow Ball
-Fire Blast/Will-o-Wisp
-Substitute
-Taunt
Nature: Modest
EVs: 160 HP/156 SAtk/192 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Infiltrator

And speaking of a Stealth Rock weakness, I know that Staraptor seems tempting as a late-game cleaner, but it's weak to it too. Rapid Spin and Defog support is absolutely mandatory in this case. Either use Starmie as your Water Pokemon, or find a way to squeeze one of these in:

Mandibuzz:
-Foul Play
-Roost
-Taunt/Whirlwind
-Defog
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/136 Def/108 SDef/16 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat

Zapdos:
-Thunderbolt
-Roost
-Defog
-Heat Wave/Toxic/U-turn
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/168 Def/68 SAtk/20 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Excadrill:
-Earthquake
-Iron Head
-Rapid Spin
-Rock Slide/Stealth Rock
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker

or
-Earthquake
-Iron Head
-Rock Slide
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe (Choice Scarf) or 120 HP/136 Atk/252 SDef (Assault Vest; Adamant only)
Item: Choice Scarf/Assault Vest
Ability: Mold Breaker

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XY OU is one of the better gens for UUs, so I'll just list a few good UU pokes you should consider:

Slowbro: can spread Scald burns or paralysis, walls or cripples top-tier threats like Excadrill, Charizard-X, Keldeo (more of a check though, Hydro Pump can 2HKO), and a few others depending on the set. And Regenerator is awesome.

Amoonguss: a poor man's Mega Venusaur, but it's very stable (again Regen is great), Spore is incredibly useful, and Stun Spore and Clear Smog mess up a host of Pokemon. Very useful for Azumarill, a top-ten OU Pokemon.

Suicune: The CM/RestTalk/Scald mono-attacker is a very tough matchup for many teams that can spread around burns, check powerful Pokemon like Excadrill, Keldeo, and kinda-sorta Landorus, and provide a fantastic win condition against numerous playstyles.

Raikou: A great bird-spam check that can CM sweep or act as a bulky pivot with Assault Vest. (Specs isn't bad either.) It also does really well against genie offense, which is really troublesome.

Celebi: With Aeg gone, it can fulfill its niche as a solid answer to the likes of Keldeo and Landorus much more easily. Those tend to be Pursuit supported though, so Celebi is just okay imo.

Tornadus-T: Great pivot and attacker, though Hurricane is a miss machine without Rain support. speaking of which...

Politoed / Kabutops / Kingdra / Rain: All of these are UU (Drizzle is BL but yolo), and Rain can function well with UU pokes. You may have to get creative with the defensive core though.

Alomomola: Best WishPasser in OU probably, can spread Toxic and burn and generally be a pain to kill.

Mega Aerodactyl: Its pure Speed is problematic for offense and some bulky teams.

Of what you're currently using, Weezing and Lapras are not OU-viable, as has been mentioned. Staraptor is actually a really potent breaker, but I think Scarf wastes its potential a little bit when a CB or LO or something is going to allow it to punch major holes. Most bird-spam checks hate its STAB Normal attacks (Rotom-W, Raikou, Thundurus) or Close Combat (Tyranitar, Heatran). It's a beast.
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