Schools: Uniforms vs No Uniforms

Started by El Héroe Oscuro October 11th, 2014 4:09 PM
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Do you think it's a good for school's to have uniforms in place, or do you think that kids should be allowed to wear what they want? Discuss yo.
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From my perspective I would vote for having school uniforms as it doesn't encourage the students to spend alot of money on something they only wear few times. There won't be alot of laundry as it tiring to do it... I think that it's economly better to have uniforms then free choice. You can correct me if I'm wrong because I'm only talking from a perspective that never had uniforms in school.

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I don't buy a whole lot of clothes to begin with, so even though I went to a uniform high school I don't think it changed my cloth spending habits much at all. I still need clothes for the weekend and the summer and any time not at school.


Still fine with uniforms though. Keeps things simple I guess.


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Wouldn't uniforms mean having to do more laundry? Since you have to wash the same 2 or 3 copies of the uniform just to wear it every day?
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God, I wish my university had school uniforms.

I didn't really like school uniforms when I first had to wear them upon switching to a school that had them, but I grew to like them very quickly. I'm a really lazy person and I've never really had much in the way of style, so uniforms were perfect for me. Wear the same thing every day and don't ever worry about matching your clothes together. I wish I still had that luxury today. Really, the only issue I ever had was that the pockets on the pants of the girls' uniform were non-existent, but I got around that by buying the smallest size of the boys' uniform instead and never had any trouble. (Then later the school stopped caring what brand of pants we had and we were allowed to just wear black pants of almost any kind, which was nice. My high school wasn't strict at all with the uniform.)

It does suck that uniforms are so expensive, though. My family was well off and we could always afford the uniform pieces just fine, but they weren't cheap. Thankfully (unlike my brother, haha), I was always really good about keeping my uniform in good condition. That's definitely a problem for lower income families, though, as when everyone is supposed to look the same, it really stands out if you have an older/cheaper variant of the uniform or can't afford to replace pieces that get damaged. That's about the only problem I see with uniforms on the whole, though.

I guess the whole "not having to dress myself" didn't help me much now, though. All I ever wear are jeans and a t-shirt because I honestly don't really know what to wear otherwise. I... I assume I would have learnt that around high school if I'd had to buy clothes more often back then? Though I was in a big tomboy phase then anyway, so it's not like the clothes I did get helped me figure out fashion and I doubt that would have changed if I had to wear the clothes all the time.


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Only elementary school kids (and the private school my sister attends) in my town only wear uniforms. The ones at the private school are really pretty because they are four color choices and you can wear beige slacks or jeans (plain jeans, no designs), which is pretty cool.

I think as long as uniforms are not strictly enforced in terms of style (like everyone has to have the same style every day i.e. girls obliged to wear skirts and can't wear pants) then it's alright. I attended a school in Mexico where guys have to have the same hairstyle and trim, while girls have to wear the same skirt length, same white stockings, and same brand of shoes. It was just insane.

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I like uniforms, they allow me to come to school without thinking about my style. :v

In college we have none, so I tried so hard to not wear the same stuff every week. It's kinda hard, considering that I'm attending in a faculty where everyone needs to wear shirts at least, so you look professional when all I have are T-shirts. ._.
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I have never worn a school uniform and I don't know of any schools here that enforce them. It's not a very Swedish thing, I suppose. I can see the positives about it - not having to worry about what style you've got or if you have money to buy a lot of clothes or not etc. But also kind of boring and I'd hate to wear a skirt every day so I'd hope that girls could wear pants too :x
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I think the concept of sending your child to school without a uniform is disgusting.

Children deserve to be clothed just like anybody else. I won't have children treated like second class citizens on my watch. #everyonedeservestobeclothed

(in other news I'm very neutral in terms of the actual topic.)
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Given I'm Australian, I had to wear uniforms when I was at school and while I was not a fan of them (I once thought they were there to turn students into copies of each other) but it meant not as much washing than if I wore casual stuff.

The downside? Having to wear a skirt and I'm a girl who doesn't like wearing skirts a lot, mainly due to how unattractive my legs are plus I'm not a very girly girl at all.
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There's advantages and disadvantages of school uniform. On one hand I like the convenience of not having to try and make up a matching outfit or fear being judged for your fashion style. The downside being that its super expensive, uncomfortable and often ugly. At least here, all students suffer wearing ugly uniform together; one in all in, lel.

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I didn't mind mine. I still use the uniform skirt as part of outfits. I think I would care more if I didn't think the outfit was cute, honestly. The teachers insisted that kids were wilder on non-uniform days, but I have no idea whether they were telling the truth or whether they were experiencing confirmation bias or whether the wildness had to do with the fact that we didn't normally have free-dress days or what. They used that as their logic to talk about why uniforms are great.

People used to tease me about what I wore in middle school so I probably dodged a bullet having uniforms in high school. :(


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I never had to wear uniforms going to school. However, I probably wouldn't want to. Sure it's convenient and you didn't have to worry about making outfits for yourself, but I would much rather show off my individual taste then just wear these bland outfits that are usually pretty ugly. But that's just me~

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There's a few perspectives I usually take on this debate. One being that it's a really great thing for families to not have to worry about having a new outfit for every day, which takes time, effort, and often can lead to purchasing more outfits in a year than a parent/guardian may wish to. That said, uniforms tend to invoke a lack of individuality between students, which links to my idea that students shouldn't be treated as a "number" in school, and should have more support in being individual and not just an academic.

I understand the need to study the sciences, linguistics, and mathematics, but I always thought that students in secondary/high school education should have more variety in subjects. Naturally this costs more to the state to provide, but education is something that should be invested in. Uniforms try to put everyone on an equal standing, but if you believe that the clothes you wear, make you superior, or someone else's attire for that matter, there's a problem there.

Uniforms were brought in to promote equal learning and opportunities, but I think in doing so, they tend to diminish students innovating and creating their own opportunities. I suppose as long as students are in a system of education where as they grow older they have little choice but to learn about purely academic subjects; I can see the desire for them to be within uniform. As long as students are just rote learning, uniforms aren't going to matter, because that method of learning will always prevent students from being individuals, uniform or not.

Ideally, some day I would like to see a case whereby students have more variety in what they want to study, and a decorum in the kind and style of clothing they can wear, but not a strict guideline limiting them to a set of clothes they must wear no style variant of at least 5 days a week.

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I hated my school's uniform. It was standard British comprehensive affair; blazer, white shirt, smart black trousers, black shoes and the school tie.

It was so uncomfortable though, and ridiculously hot during the summer. My school also enforced the ridiculous rule that, while you were allowed to take your blazers off during lessons, you had to wear them while walking around the school premises.

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Practices of a bygone era. Gender conforming, bland, too expensive, serves literally no purpose. Get rid of them.
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But really, having a uniform won't magically end bullying. There are plenty of things bullies can go after and pick on aside from what clothes you wear. Plus, they're bland and don't allow for any kind of self-expression by the student - you're just a drone in the hive along with everyone else in the eyes of the school.

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There's a few perspectives I usually take on this debate. One being that it's a really great thing for families to not have to worry about having a new outfit for every day, which takes time, effort, and often can lead to purchasing more outfits in a year than a parent/guardian may wish to. That said, uniforms tend to invoke a lack of individuality between students, which links to my idea that students shouldn't be treated as a "number" in school, and should have more support in being individual and not just an academic.

I understand the need to study the sciences, linguistics, and mathematics, but I always thought that students in secondary/high school education should have more variety in subjects. Naturally this costs more to the state to provide, but education is something that should be invested in. Uniforms try to put everyone on an equal standing, but if you believe that the clothes you wear, make you superior, or someone else's attire for that matter, there's a problem there.

Uniforms were brought in to promote equal learning and opportunities, but I think in doing so, they tend to diminish students innovating and creating their own opportunities. I suppose as long as students are in a system of education where as they grow older they have little choice but to learn about purely academic subjects; I can see the desire for them to be within uniform. As long as students are just rote learning, uniforms aren't going to matter, because that method of learning will always prevent students from being individuals, uniform or not.

Ideally, some day I would like to see a case whereby students have more variety in what they want to study, and a decorum in the kind and style of clothing they can wear, but not a strict guideline limiting them to a set of clothes they must wear no style variant of at least 5 days a week.
I think the bolded is a really good point that I didn't connect before to my thoughts on encouraging diversity - the solution to "kids are racist" for example isn't to force every kid to paint their skin purple and push the education of how racism is wrong off until they graduate school. Likewise, the solution to "kids judge each other based on the clothes they wear" shouldn't be to make them all wear the same thing and pretend the issue doesn't exist.


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For the most part, I'm in favor of school uniforms (At least for the elementary to high school crowd). It helps reduce the chance of kids picking on each other for their clothing choices. Though now that I don't have a dress code anymore, the freedom is nice.
Just as long as the uniforms look normal so you can go places without looking like a loon. At my old school our uniforms were pastel, Easter egg colored...

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This thread brings back bad memories from school. Whoever the hell decided to name the school's protest against the dress code "****ty Wednesday" really didn't think things through.

I can see the upsides and downsides in both. At the end of the day, I really don't know what to think. My bias is towards no dress code, but eh.
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But really, having a uniform won't magically end bullying. There are plenty of things bullies can go after and pick on aside from what clothes you wear. Plus, they're bland and don't allow for any kind of self-expression by the student - you're just a drone in the hive along with everyone else in the eyes of the school.
Yeah, just look at the video game Bully. They wore uniforms and they in no way, shape, or form stopped the bullying.
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Considering I went to a private school for most of my life, I was never in any areas that required us to wear uniforms. I could understand why they would (possibly to keep people from wearing too much skimpy or offensive clothing), but I don't think it's really necessary for them to enforce rules as such.
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