RMT Opinions on my first team

Started by griever7x October 14th, 2014 12:44 PM
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Hello all, as the title says, this is the first time I make up a team.
Although I'm no stranger to pokemon ( been playing it since I was a kid ), somehow I never got to the battling aspect... up until now at least!
I've had a theme in my mind for a while now, of strong looking feminine pokemon, and I'd like to stick with it for my team, even though that might mean limiting the choices available.
So, here is my team:
Cresselia @ Light Clay
Levitate
Timid, 252 hp 4 def 252 spe
Reflect, Light Screen, Psyshock, Lunar Dance
Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Overgrow/Thick Fat
Bold, 252 hp 236 def 20 spe
Leech Seed, Toxic, Giga Drain, Synthesis
Rhydon @ Eviolite
Rock Head
Adamant, 252 hp 16 atk 240 spd
Stealth Rock, Earthquake, Dragon Tail, Rock Blast
Togekiss @ Bright Powder
Serene Grace
Calm, 252 hp 4 def 252 spd
Air Slash, Thunder Wave, Wish, Protect
Volcarona @ Leftovers
Flame Body
Timid, 240 hp 252 def 16 spe
Quiver Dance, Roost, Fiery Dance, Bug Buzz
Kingdra @ Scope Lens
Sniper
Modest, 64 hp 252 spa 192 spe
Focus Energy, Draco Meteor, Hydro Pump, Flash Cannon

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Omg. Please use a line break or something next time lol.

I see a nice set up here, at least for each Pokemon individually. I'm not a big fan of Togekiss, so I would remove just because of that, not really a technical comment.
I wouldn't change anything, but I think you're missing an electric attack for covering Flying Pokemon (especially since you have Venasaur and Volcarona depending on that). I do see Steath Rock there, I just think it would be good for coverage; buuuut, once again, that depends on the strategy you decide for the battle.

Offtopic: Volcarona = Strong looking female!? wat

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Just saying, Mega Venusaur has a wide support move pool, but it can't fit all of them at once. This is the best way to take advantage of its support capabilities. Mega Venusaur also threatens Fairies greatly, and Sludge Bomb chunks them for super effective damage; you also lack that move:
-Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
-Sleep Powder/Leech Seed/Hidden Power (Fire)/Earthquake
-Synthesis
Nature: Bold/Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Spe
Item: Venusaurite

Rhyperior is miles better than Eviolite Rhydon because it can hold Leftovers. It also has Solid Rock to cushion its common weaknesses. Those aspects outweigh Rhydon's Eviolite-boosted bulk, as Rhydon gets worn down faster than Rhyperior, due to the lack of Leftovers recovery:
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Rock Blast
-Toxic/Ice Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 212 HP/44 Atk/252 Def
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock

Roost is a more reliable recovery option on Togekiss. There are better Wish users out there:
-Thunder Wave
-Air Slash
-Heal Bell/Defog/Dazzling Gleam/Aura Sphere/Flamethrower
-Roost
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace

A good Wish user to put here is Clefable:
-Wish
-Protect
-Moonblast
-Heal Bell/Aromatherapy/Thunder Wave
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Unaware/Magic Guard

Hydro Pump lets Kingdra hit Fairies hard enough already, so it's unnecessary. Agility is preferred in the last slot to act as a "double-dancer" of sorts. Focus Energy lets Kingdra wreck defensive teams; Agility helps it clean up offensive ones. Don't try to set up both boosts at once, but you could do that if you get lucky.

Offtopic: Volcarona = Strong looking female!? wat
Volcarona looks feminine to some people.

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Sorry about that, I suck at posting...
Anyways, can you have the same item on more than one pokemon? I thought you could not. I think you are right about giving Agility to Kingdra... I noticed flash cannon doesn't hit that much harder than hydro pump. Why remove toxic though? I thought that was a good way to wear down opposing pokemon and give an easier time to the offensive part of my team ( mainly volcarona and kingdra ).
And yes, volcarona does look a lot more feminine than masculine to me. Just like the moth version of a queen bee.
Thanks for the advice!

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Sorry about that, I suck at posting...
Anyways, can you have the same item on more than one pokemon? I thought you could not. I think you are right about giving Agility to Kingdra... I noticed flash cannon doesn't hit that much harder than hydro pump. Why remove toxic though? I thought that was a good way to wear down opposing pokemon and give an easier time to the offensive part of my team ( mainly volcarona and kingdra ).
And yes, volcarona does look a lot more feminine than masculine to me. Just like the moth version of a queen bee.
Thanks for the advice!
It's possible to have more than one item on the same Pokemon in Pokemon Showdown (if you disable Item Clause) and Wi-Fi battles on the PSS, but not on Battle Spot.

As for removing Toxic, Venusaur really likes having Sludge Bomb as a secondary STAB in order to chunk Fairies, as I mentioned before. Sleep Powder or Leech Seed are generally better support options, IMO.

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Sorry for not being specific, I don't play on pokemon showdown...
What about assault vest on a rhyperior?
Rhyperior would need heavy special bulk investment to make Assault Vest worth using, but that would detract from its physical bulk, which it needs to check things like Mega Charizard X and Talonflame.

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Rhyperior would need heavy special bulk investment to make Assault Vest worth using, but that would detract from its physical bulk, which it needs to check things like Mega Charizard X and Talonflame.
Ok, thanks. What about MVenusaur with Toxic, Venoshock, Synthesis and Leech Seed instead of Sludge Bomb and Giga Drain?

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Ok, thanks. What about MVenusaur with Toxic, Venoshock, Synthesis and Leech Seed instead of Sludge Bomb and Giga Drain?
No. It can't do anything to Steels otherwise. Sludge Bomb and Giga Drain are its best offensive options, meaning they're mandatory on it.

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Ok, thanks. What about MVenusaur with Toxic, Venoshock, Synthesis and Leech Seed instead of Sludge Bomb and Giga Drain?
That particular moveset is completely walled by Steel-types. The extra set-up time to make Venoshock more powerful isn't really worth your time--unless you use toxic spikes, but that's unreliable as well given that any opposing Poison-types makes all your effort moot.