Mega Metagross

Started by SuperFabulous December 28th, 2014 11:39 PM
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Hi, I recently bred a shiny beldum with jolly nature that has almost perfect 6iv's (30 in def). I love metagross but I was wondering for OU matches if mega metagross was worth the bother of sacrificing a mega evolution to. I was wondering how people think about him online.
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mega metagross is god, it's p fast and it hits hard and has good coverage, tho it suffers from 4-moveslot-syndrome a little. it is def worth sacrificing ur mega slot to, but it must help your team out tho, and not some random [insert mega to use lel] just because you like it.
Mega metagross is currently s ranked on the viability list, that should say a lot about it.
It will be a good idea to Pair him up with thing that take out the stuff that can counter/check metagross well, Dugtrio metagross and talonflame is a great core to build around.

Sub cm keldeo can also set up on almost all of metagross's checks like Skarm,sableye,Scizor, Bisharp etc.

Here are the sets if you want

Spoiler:


Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Hammer Arm
- Agility

Dugtrio @ Focus Sash
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 21 HP / 0 Def / 0 SpD
- Earthquake
- Reversal
- Memento
- Stealth Rock

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Roost


And

Spoiler:


Keldeo @ Leftovers
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Scald
- Secret Sword

Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body --> Tough Claws
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch/Pursuit
- Zen Headbutt

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Mega Metagross is bae, but I agree with revere that it's not a Mega you can just throw onto a team and think muk will go well.

Dugtrio metagross and talonflame is a great core to build around.
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To add to what Srinator and revere said, Agility Mega Metagross is viable, even though it's already fast. If you're willing to give up coverage for a bit more extra power and Speed, Mega Agiligross is a good late-game cleaner, even though you do need a bit more support in that regard:
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Zen Headbutt
-Hammer Arm/Earthquake/Ice Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 80 HP/252 Atk/176 Spe
Item: Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body

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Mega metagross is currently s ranked on the viability list, that should say a lot about it.
It will be a good idea to Pair him up with thing that take out the stuff that can counter/check metagross well, Dugtrio metagross and talonflame is a great core to build around.

Sub cm keldeo can also set up on almost all of metagross's checks like Skarm,sableye,Scizor, Bisharp etc.

Here are the sets if you want

Spoiler:


Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Hammer Arm
- Agility

Dugtrio @ Focus Sash
Ability: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 21 HP / 0 Def / 0 SpD
- Earthquake
- Reversal
- Memento
- Stealth Rock

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Roost


And

Spoiler:


Keldeo @ Leftovers
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Scald
- Secret Sword

Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body --> Tough Claws
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Ice Punch/Pursuit
- Zen Headbutt
Wow!!! Thanks so much for that information. I never really knew you could have an entire team build around him. I always wanted to use him but he was always stuck in UU but now his potential in competitive actually seems viable^^
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i wouldnt say 'build a team around megagross', more like 'pairing up mega gross with suitable partners to take out counters/checks and synergizes with each other'.

also just because a pokemon is in a a lower tier, that doesnt mean it's unviable. stuff like celebi, chesnaught, raikou, etc are viable in ou too.

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So I heard and realized in Japan they banned mega metagross from OU because of the 700 base stats including the tough claws and major speed boost. I am not online very often but is mega metagross common in online battles?
I haven't seen any threads crop up in Smogon regarding a suspect test on Mega Metagross. What's the source?

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I haven't seen any threads crop up in Smogon regarding a suspect test on Mega Metagross. What's the source?
Its on a japanese forum similar to smogon but their smogon bans anything above 600 base stats so.... doesn't mean much.
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As stupid as it sounds....yes... but you gotta know that different countries have different rules for different reasons...
i dont get this, how does a pokemon's competitive viability or brokeness depend on a country lol. the major competitive pokemon community is smogon and most competitive players follow smogon's rules no matter where they're from.

i give a thumbs up (y)

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You know what... you are right. I should double check the forum to see if there were any exceptions but all i know is that mega meta is 100% banned in ou due to 700 base stats.....
mega metagross isn't banned on smogon tho lol. black kyurem has 700 bst but it isnt banned o/
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Its on a japanese forum similar to smogon but their smogon bans anything above 600 base stats so.... doesn't mean much.
I for one advocate this rule, maybe then we'll have less stupid garbage running around.

Mods can we make this happen here? :)
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mega metagross isn't banned on smogon tho lol. black kyurem has 700 bst but it isnt banned o/
Please... all i am saying is that it was just the decisions that forum made that is different from smogon. I think the reason is that they don't want 8 year olds spamming it every game
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Please... all i am saying is that it was just the decisions that forum made that is different from smogon. I think the reason is that they don't want 8 year olds spamming it every game
it's strong yes, but it has its checks and counters too. pls if 8 yr olds were to spam it, they would spam giga impact and aerial ace.
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it's strong yes, but it has its checks and counters too. pls if 8 yr olds were to spam it, they would spam giga impact and aerial ace.
8 year old would spam probably anything that looks big and strong like mega mence and mega meta. Anyways, diverging from the interest of 8 year olds, I just wanted to hear the opinions the NA has and it seems that anything that has enough checks and counters will not be banned which seems reasonable.

P.S. why aerial ace?????
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mega metagross isn't banned on smogon tho lol. black kyurem has 700 bst but it isnt banned o/
That's because Black Kyurem couldn't have anything less to use its Ice-type STAB on its massive Attack stat. With Mega Metagross, it didn't get much new in the way of things to use, and it gained two new weaknesses in this generation, making it easier to contend with.

I for one advocate this rule, maybe then we'll have less stupid garbage running around.

Mods can we make this happen here? :)
Then that'd ban Slaking too :P And Mega Gyarados (which, admittedly got Crunch in ORAS but is still susceptible to Bug and Fighting-type attacks as opposed to its not Mega counterpart). And Mega Aggron (which doesn't have too much separating it from other Megas). I think this would be rather impractical.
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Yeah don't teach Metagross (or any Pokemon) Giga Impact. Also, internet competitive battling communities aren't restricted to specific countries....because it's the internet.

But back to Mega Metagross.....
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