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Old March 24th, 2005 (11:11 AM).
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Any suggestions/recomandations welcome.

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Blast Burn
Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Heat Wave

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Earthquake
Ancientpower
Overheat
Swords Dance

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Explosion
Double Team
Thunder Wave
Protect

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Heat Wave
Double Team
Confuse Ray
Attract

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Fire Blast
Dragon Claw
Fly
HP Ice

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Psychic
Flamethrower
Ice Beam
Recover

Also I would like to know if I'd be able to do anything good with Ninetales & Registeel as annoyers and if Charizard & Ninetales can be used to Heat Wave the opponents under Groudon's sunlight, and if I could also power-up Ninetales with one of Charizard's fire moves.
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Old March 24th, 2005 (11:57 AM).
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Any suggestions/recomandations welcome.

Charizard (M) @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Aerial Ace
- Dragon Dance
- Flamethrower
- Brick Break

Charizard make, in my opion, better physical sweepers than special ones. Flamethrower is the best overall Fire move in terms of Reliability, but Overheat works as well in combination with a held White Herb. the boosting effect of Charcoal and the like is too insignificant to be useful [dun worry, I made the same mistake before ^_^]

Groudon @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Drought
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ancientpower
- Overheat
- Swords Dance

I don't have much experience with ubers [I don't use them, AT ALL], but this may work well as is.

Registeel @ Ganlon Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Iron Defense
- Thunder Wave
- Toxic
- Amnesia

Once again, I dun know much about using ubers/legends, but ths may work as a Toxistaller. Bring yar defense up and Toxify everything he sends out at ya.

Ninetales (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Double Team
- Confuse Ray
- Attract
- Flamethrower

Same deal, just Flamethrower is more accurate [Heat Wave is worthless if its imperfect accuracy prevents it from hitting]

Salamence (M) @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Brick Break/Earhtquake
- Dragon Dance
- Rock Slide

Mwar, yar typical physical Salamence. If yar Dragon Dancing gets up, ya can sweep almost anything. One DD should give it enouhg speed to outrun an Alakazam, too.

Mewtwo @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower

This is better, Calm mind sets ya up for Special sweeping, Flamethrower for Skarmory, Ice Beam for Dragons, Psychic for everything else ^_^

In a double battle, you can have yar Pokémon attack yar allies, so ya probably would be able to kick in Ninetales' Flash Fire. Switching to a Fire user once Groudon is sent out, or having it in a double battle will allow the fire boosting to work.
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Old March 24th, 2005 (12:07 PM).
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I CAN'T use Charizard as a physical sweeper 'cause it's got 306 SP.ATK. and 185 ATK.!
I'll consider Registeel, as for Heat Wave I haven't had one miss so far and it hits both opponents. Should I really be losing Mewtwo's Recover? I've seen it work wonders so far...
I was thinking of doing Ninetales' Attract & Confuse Ray + Registeel's Thunder Wave.
Do you think it would've worked?
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Old March 24th, 2005 (12:14 PM).
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With those EV settings, Charizard has 293 Attack, which is still significant. They don't learn enough variety in Special moves to be effective at Special Sweeping.

And, I'm not good with Legends/Ubers, so sorry, I dun know what is best for them XD

Although, Clam Mind is something to definately keep on Mewtwo.

And keep in mind that when an attack hits both opponents, the damage is split; it's effectively doing half its normal damage, against them.
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Old March 24th, 2005 (12:21 PM).
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keep in mind that when an attack hits both opponents, the damage is split; it's effectively doing half its normal damage, against them.
?!!
*bangs his head with a crowbar*
How could I be so careless?!?!
Ok, I'll keep Calm Mind, but I'm taking Flamethrower out -- I've already got a lot of FIRE power, Ice offers a lot more weaknesses, and I'm not taking out Recover. XD
...with this team, what'd my success be against tanks?
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Old March 24th, 2005 (12:25 PM).
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Dun know. Ya could test it out, maybe. *thinks about testing team himself*

Mwar. What name are ya using, anyway? I'm just curious. My name usually has Porygonal or Dragon in it ^_^

Although, I never fight legends [because I never use them XD], so a battle with me with that team ain't gonna happen ^_^
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Old March 24th, 2005 (12:31 PM).
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No, I actually have that team on my GBA and even though I haven't played on it for 3 weeks 'cause I borrowed it, I memorized their STATS and used GS codes to get them EXACTLY as I have them on my GBA, so I haven't played net battles yet...
I've got the VBALink and it's all configged & ready, I just have to learn how to use it... *scratches head*
Won't battle legends? What kind of PKMN do you use?
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Old March 24th, 2005 (12:42 PM).
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Anything but legends ^_^

I like to use Dragons as much as possible, and have a sweet spot for Underused Pokémon, I.E. the ones that aren't the best at what they do, but can still do it, and have their own uniqueness XD

I also like Electric types. Mwar.

You should use NetBattle, it's quite fun, and it can let us battle easier ^_^

I could Pm ya the link and the team I built for ya [I had to have it in NB, otherwise I'd have had to type it out ^_^].
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Old March 24th, 2005 (12:51 PM).
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Underused... Yes, I too like Pokémon that are more than they seem(...), but I don't think I've used underused PKMN... Bah, I'll build a team and see what comes out! XD
I could make a team entirely composed of dragons and study how I could get the best out of them and cover their weaknesses... yeah, should be interesting! PM me that link, though I doubt I'll be going on the 'net again anytime soon(some problems)...
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Old March 24th, 2005 (1:07 PM).
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Mwar, lol ^_^

Keep in mind, if yar using Dragons, almost EVERY Water-type will know Ice Beam, and I learned the hard way that Claydol also can learn Ice Beam 0.o

And, watch out for anything with a high Sp. Atk., it may have HP Ice… lol, I even have a Seviper with HP Ice XD

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Ok...maybe I'll combine dragons and snakes since I like snakes too.
That way I might be able to lose some of the horrid 2x weaknesses to Ice that most draggies have.
Where can I see HP's damage and type formula?
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Old March 24th, 2005 (1:20 PM).
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Mwar, snakes are cool too XD

Look into Seviper. They have the same base Attack and Sp.Attk. stats, so ya can take them either way. Plus they learn Poison Fang ^_^
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Old March 24th, 2005 (1:31 PM). Edited March 24th, 2005 by husk1442.
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too bad its slow and weak to the most common type of attack
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Old March 24th, 2005 (1:53 PM).
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Mwar, it's good for surprising people XD

They may be slow, but they're faster than the slow Pokés ^_^

And which type would that be? Psychic and Ground aren't that common, are they?
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Old March 24th, 2005 (4:34 PM).
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Earthquake is really common.
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