This precisely is what makes me (and I'm sure lots of others) roll my eyes at Smogon's bans. Switching out pokemon,
only for the switch in to be swaggered one of the most basic strategies ever taught in game by NPC in the very first games, to negate the effects of swagger can't possibly be used because they just don't feel like switching out pokemon so they better ban it completely
yes people are very lazy to click on-screen buttons. Geesh. How long is it going to be before the meta game is just people with calculators using only direct damage dealing moves
still better than people using harden metapod to win. What's up next? Nuzzle? Leer? Defense curl? any move that has an accuracy of less than 100?
yeah probably ban struggle too, very op gives you a move when your out of all pp's o.o (cause we better always hide behind the "luck based" winning excuse .) It looks like if people want easy wins all they need to do is just use pokemon that have Swagger or Double Team and the other person will always rage quit because these super moves can't possibly be countered.
this is precisely what they, no skill wins etc. if you want a game where you level 100 charizard kills everything i guess fire red is ur best chance, competitive play is about actual competitive skills not about who's mon is shinier
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This precisely is what makes me (and i'm sure lots of others) roll my eyes at anti-smogon-bad-logic haters. First of all you need to understand that smogon is not a group of 4-5 people who ban things according to how they feel, there are something called suspect tests conducted on the ladder where only people who get a rank above a certain minimum get a right to vote, this is so that people who have faulty reasons or have a very non-competitive view don't affect the decision making. It's not like GF makes things any easier, esp with all the power creep in the last few generations. You have all the right to put forward your points as to why a decision made by the community resulting to a nerf or ban is wrong (in your opinion) and people will agree/disagree according to how logically correct you are. Don't you think that is more productive than straight out blaming smogon on being ban happy and sitting in your little bubble while putting down the work that other people actually do.
To the topic however, swagger was insanely broken and was insanely retarded/stupid/no-skill etc, a guy peaked #1 on the ubers ladder with swagplay klef and swagger thundurus in XY Ubers iirc multiple times. It isnt very difficult to see why it got banned esp when klef can potentially beat primal groudon with this mukplay ;/