RMT Comments/suggestions please??

Started by Latiosjayfeather March 11th, 2015 4:49 PM
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Firestar (Heatran) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 144 SpA / 44 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Heat Wave
- Flash Cannon
- Protect
- Earth Power

Yellowfang (Gothitelle) @ Mental Herb
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 156 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Protect
- Psychic
- Trick Room
- Heal Pulse

Half Moon (Sylveon) (F) @ Pixie Plate
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 100 HP / 136 Def / 252 SpA / 20 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Hyper Voice
- Shadow Ball
- Psyshock
- Yawn

Castle (Venusaur) @ Venusaurite
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Def / 60 SpA / 136 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Leech Seed
- Protect

Bishop (Bisharp) @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
- Iron Head
- Protect

Aquaurobolt (Rotom-Wash) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Def / 60 SpA / 144 SpD
Bold Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect



On Heatran, the 68 Def helps survive earthquake from a good amount of pokes and with Gothitelle heal support it can make its longevity very long. Quiet and 144 Sp.Atk gives great offense. The 44 SpD is to help against a special attacker here and there. Gothitelle is one of the important Pokemon of this team with heal pulse, Trick Room speed control, and shadow tag trap. Shadow tag allows it to keep pokemon in as venasuar sets leech seed, Sylveon yawns, Rotom will-o-wisps, Heatran kills, or bisharp general destruction. Gothitelle's bulk allows survival of a lot of attacks. And the Castle known as Venasuar is one of my favorites of this team, awesome bulk and leech seed for it's own and partners longevity, and classic sludge bomb and giga drain stabs.
Suggestions and comments regarding this team would greatly be appreciated thanks!

Changes:

Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 220 HP / 52 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 228 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Sky Drop
- Rock Slide
- Roost
- Protect
Eliminated


Firestar (Heatran)
- Will-O-Wisp
Had this and may have again in future should it be more useful...

Gothitelle @ Leftovers
- Thunder Wave
Used to have...

Half Moon (Sylveon) (F) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
More bulk in defense now and pixieplate

Castle (Venasuar)
EVs: 40 Def / 156 SpD

Added little more to physical bulk from this to survive Mega Metagross better.


(old note)

I feel this team has potential, though a few things to be noted is that this team doesn't pair up well to ferrothorn or heatran. Also some of the members don't enjoy Aegislash or Gengar. Although Bisharp I feel does well against them. I've considered putting fire fang over roost on Aerodactyl, possibly wide guard or tailwind as well. Venasuar I've considered more speed EVs or run non-mega with black sludge, also hidden power fire or ground is an option. The pixie plate as well occurred to me for Sylveon so it can run protect over something and not be locked into a move. Gothitelle is one of the important Pokemon of this team with heal pulse, t-wave speed control, and shadow tag trap. Shadow tag allows it to keep pokemon in as venasuar sets leech seed, Sylveon yawns, Rotom will-o-wisps, Aerodactyl rock slides/skydrops, or bisharp general destruction. Aerodactyl also has the option to be replaced with a Charizard-x and fake a sun team, when in reality it is a bulky dragon dance sweep when needed. I do feel that this team is well balanced type wise, though slightly uneven in special to physical. It's not a huge thing in my opinion since Gothitelle is mostly a support poke. In testing via showdown it's been fine, however I'm aware showdown is somewhat different than the true metagame. Suggestions and comments would greatly be appreciated thanks!

PlatinumDude

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In the VGC format, regular Venusaur is better than its Mega counterpart because its Chlorophyll ability allows it to be an excellent partner with Mega Charizard Y. Though Aerodactyl may be good for temporary Sky Drop elimination, I feel that Charizard Y can be paired with regular Venusaur to beat down on the opposing team more:

Charizard:
-Heat Wave
-Solar Beam
-Overheat/Ancient Power/Focus Blast
-Protect
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 244 SAtk/12 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite Y

Venusaur:
-Giga Drain
-Sludge Bomb
-Sleep Powder
-Protect
Nature: Modest
EVs: 204 HP/252 SAtk/52 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll

If you don't want to go the Charizard Y route, consider replacing Venusaur with Amoonguss, as it's bulkier and provides Rage Powder support:
-Spore
-Rage Powder
-Giga Drain/Sludge Bomb
-Protect
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Sitrus Berry
Ability: Regenerator

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The problem with having Charizard-Y is it ruins the synergy of the team, also the thing i loved about venasaur in testing is the leech seed and bulk, paired with gothitelle it pretty well allows venasaur to then retreat as some other poke gets benefits of leech seed and being crippled by gothitelle's t-wave. That particular venasaur set as well steals life orb from bisharp, Although Amoongus is a poke that is possible. I do see how it could help with a reliable spore and fake a trick room team. I will play with Amoongus on this team and see how it goes.

Also I am having a serious consideration of having pixie plate over choice specs on sylveon, but I am unsure.

PlatinumDude

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The problem with having Charizard-Y is it ruins the synergy of the team, also the thing i loved about venasaur in testing is the leech seed and bulk, paired with gothitelle it pretty well allows venasaur to then retreat as some other poke gets benefits of leech seed and being crippled by gothitelle's t-wave. That particular venasaur set as well steals life orb from bisharp, Although Amoongus is a poke that is possible. I do see how it could help with a reliable spore and fake a trick room team. I will play with Amoongus on this team and see how it goes.

Also I am having a serious consideration of having pixie plate over choice specs on sylveon, but I am unsure.
If you opt for Charizard Y + regular Venusaur, you can always give Bisharp Black Glasses/Dread Plate or Focus Sash. Bisharp tends to use its Dark STABs a lot if it uses any of the former 2 items; the latter item can ensure it has to take 2 hits before going down, as it's not too bulky.

In the VGC format, stalling is pretty much pointless because of the fast, offensive pace there.

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I've tried less bulky pokemon and more power such as charizard-y and mega salamence but what I found is it really doesn't fit into my playing style and I find redirection mandatory. However personally I don't like relying on powders like rage powder and spore cause they don't affect safety goggle pokemon. Also spread moves and/or fakeout can help deal with such.

Really tanks are my play style, and I have edited my team to make it better an more fitting to my style.