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Avara

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Posted April 10th, 2022
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Hi all! Finally finished the whole "rallying the realm" section of Evandor's Chapter 1; here's the final main city of Izantine! Palettes and tiles aren't final, I drew all of the interiors myself and a lot of the exterior tileset so I will likely be improving them as I go along.



Players of the first MoT, does the setting of this building ring any bells?



... How about now?

The next and final section will be attempting to gain an ally outside of the country - there will only be two to choose from and you'll only be able to go to one or the other, this will make a pretty big impact on future chapters. More on which countries these will be soon =)
Female
Seen August 26th, 2020
Posted July 3rd, 2020
24 posts
7.8 Years
Really looking forward to this hack!

I kinda want to jump in but at the same time I hate the dreaded "To be continued" we so often see in series and episodic games ^.^'. That said, how long does the prologue last for? 1-2 hours worth of gameplay for each?

Avara

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Seen 5 Days Ago
Posted April 10th, 2022
1,305 posts
11.4 Years
Really looking forward to this hack!

I kinda want to jump in but at the same time I hate the dreaded "To be continued" we so often see in series and episodic games ^.^'. That said, how long does the prologue last for? 1-2 hours worth of gameplay for each?
I know exactly what you mean haha, you might prefer to wait for a lengthier beta as the prologues are more like twenty minutes each lol.

It occurred to me that I should really comment on the active thread of your hack. haha. I'm still excited for this.
Both threads are active, so no worries! =)

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Sorry for being MIA guys, I'm currently going through a pretty tough recruitment process for a new job so time is tight right now. I haven't touched this game for a while since I've been busy setting up a rom for the new MoT's remake, but here's some progress for Evandor's C1 from last week!



Hmm, where are we here?

GoldFlareon

Biotic Flareon

Age 29
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The world of pokemon.
Seen September 8th, 2016
Posted May 27th, 2016
53 posts
14.6 Years
Hey there. c: This hack looks really interesting! I have only played a bit, but so far I love the changes and differences that seem to be unique to this hack. Sometimes I feel as if your sprites do not have enough contrast, though (they're too light around their outlines especially) but overall it's a cool experience. I do have some bugs to report, though. I don't know if they've been mentioned to you before, but in case they haven't, thought I'd share them with you here.

Spoiler:
I was playing Zhafira's Prologue when I entered the gem bank. My OW sprite changed to the default Fire Red male trainer, which was not animated while I walked and had a mismatched palette. I figured that this was an overworld you hadn't put in yet, so ignored it and left the building. However, when I emerged...I knew it was a glitch. Because, err...



So then I tried to fix it by walking back into the bank, only to turn into this little boy.



I exited the bank, but I was still the kid.



Then there's this staircase glitch, which is probably fine if it's only a problem for the little kid sprite.



I walked around and found the Rayquaza temple where you find your brother. We had a dialogue exchange and he left, and I went to the end of the room to talk to the guard. He got an exclamation mark above his head and said something to the effect of "I've had enough of your silly games!" and challenged me to a battle. But obviously, I had no pokemon. So after he threw out a level 29 magnemite called Amaura, I sent out a question mark. Then it told me I was out of usable pokemon and I whited out. So then... I appeared at the "Pokemon Center" where someone invisible tried to heal my pokemon. However, after placing six poke balls down, well, it didn't stop. xD



So I had to close the game. xD


I do plan to play more of Zhafira's as well as the other prologues! Thought I'd just mention the above while it was still fresh in my mind, haha.

Seiyaryu

Male
Seen September 26th, 2016
Posted July 26th, 2016
26 posts
8 Years
Hey there. c: This hack looks really interesting! I have only played a bit, but so far I love the changes and differences that seem to be unique to this hack. Sometimes I feel as if your sprites do not have enough contrast, though (they're too light around their outlines especially) but overall it's a cool experience. I do have some bugs to report, though. I don't know if they've been mentioned to you before, but in case they haven't, thought I'd share them with you here.

Spoiler:
I was playing Zhafira's Prologue when I entered the gem bank. My OW sprite changed to the default Fire Red male trainer, which was not animated while I walked and had a mismatched palette. I figured that this was an overworld you hadn't put in yet, so ignored it and left the building. However, when I emerged...I knew it was a glitch. Because, err...



So then I tried to fix it by walking back into the bank, only to turn into this little boy.



I exited the bank, but I was still the kid.



Then there's this staircase glitch, which is probably fine if it's only a problem for the little kid sprite.



I walked around and found the Rayquaza temple where you find your brother. We had a dialogue exchange and he left, and I went to the end of the room to talk to the guard. He got an exclamation mark above his head and said something to the effect of "I've had enough of your silly games!" and challenged me to a battle. But obviously, I had no pokemon. So after he threw out a level 29 magnemite called Amaura, I sent out a question mark. Then it told me I was out of usable pokemon and I whited out. So then... I appeared at the "Pokemon Center" where someone invisible tried to heal my pokemon. However, after placing six poke balls down, well, it didn't stop. xD



So I had to close the game. xD


I do plan to play more of Zhafira's as well as the other prologues! Thought I'd just mention the above while it was still fresh in my mind, haha.
Those bugs got reported already :) the ow changing thing isn't Avaras fault so she can't fix it yet. :P

What I want to know is when she is going to quit making this game in favor of the first Mirage Of Tales!!! More people would want to see that than this game tbh

GoldFlareon

Biotic Flareon

Age 29
Female
The world of pokemon.
Seen September 8th, 2016
Posted May 27th, 2016
53 posts
14.6 Years
Those bugs got reported already :) the ow changing thing isn't Avaras fault so she can't fix it yet. :P

What I want to know is when she is going to quit making this game in favor of the first Mirage Of Tales!!! More people would want to see that than this game tbh
Ah, I see. :] No worries!

There was a first one? O:

Male
Seen August 26th, 2016
Posted June 29th, 2016
18 posts
7.1 Years
I really l liked the look of your older hack though I did not get to play it but this oh boy I am loving the whole medieval theme and lack of tech, looking forward to the future of this hack.

Edit: ok now I've played through them and I cant seem to get past the chapter one screen. So I've played through each game and when I hit the screen saying chapter one and then I can't pass that screen, I can however bring up the start menu so it hasn't crashed.

Avara

She/Her
Seen 5 Days Ago
Posted April 10th, 2022
1,305 posts
11.4 Years
Hey there. c: This hack looks really interesting! I have only played a bit, but so far I love the changes and differences that seem to be unique to this hack. Sometimes I feel as if your sprites do not have enough contrast, though (they're too light around their outlines especially) but overall it's a cool experience. I do have some bugs to report, though. I don't know if they've been mentioned to you before, but in case they haven't, thought I'd share them with you here.

Spoiler:
I was playing Zhafira's Prologue when I entered the gem bank. My OW sprite changed to the default Fire Red male trainer, which was not animated while I walked and had a mismatched palette. I figured that this was an overworld you hadn't put in yet, so ignored it and left the building. However, when I emerged...I knew it was a glitch. Because, err...



So then I tried to fix it by walking back into the bank, only to turn into this little boy.



I exited the bank, but I was still the kid.



Then there's this staircase glitch, which is probably fine if it's only a problem for the little kid sprite.



I walked around and found the Rayquaza temple where you find your brother. We had a dialogue exchange and he left, and I went to the end of the room to talk to the guard. He got an exclamation mark above his head and said something to the effect of "I've had enough of your silly games!" and challenged me to a battle. But obviously, I had no pokemon. So after he threw out a level 29 magnemite called Amaura, I sent out a question mark. Then it told me I was out of usable pokemon and I whited out. So then... I appeared at the "Pokemon Center" where someone invisible tried to heal my pokemon. However, after placing six poke balls down, well, it didn't stop. xD



So I had to close the game. xD


I do plan to play more of Zhafira's as well as the other prologues! Thought I'd just mention the above while it was still fresh in my mind, haha.
Thanks so much! Do you mean the sprites at the beginning screen or in general? I definitely appreciate the spriting feedback as I don't think I'm that good and could always be improving, I think the light-outlines situation stems from having "never use black, it's too harsh!!!" drummed into me by my Art teacher at school hahahaha

Those bugs got reported already :) the ow changing thing isn't Avaras fault so she can't fix it yet. :P

What I want to know is when she is going to quit making this game in favor of the first Mirage Of Tales!!! More people would want to see that than this game tbh
I switch between working on both depending on how I feel, so progress is happening slowly =P

I really l liked the look of your older hack though I did not get to play it but this oh boy I am loving the whole medieval theme and lack of tech, looking forward to the future of this hack.

Edit: ok now I've played through them and I cant seem to get past the chapter one screen. So I've played through each game and when I hit the screen saying chapter one and then I can't pass that screen, I can however bring up the start menu so it hasn't crashed.
The C1 screen signifies the end of the prologue! Only the prologues are available at the moment; I only released them so people could vote on which character should get the first beta (as I find it really difficult to work on them all at once and it would probably never get done lol)

I decided to stop by when I saw my name in the credits. ;)

This looks amazing. Really excited for this.
And it always will be! Thanks mate =)

New sprites:

Female
Seen August 26th, 2020
Posted July 3rd, 2020
24 posts
7.8 Years
I keep trying to play it, and I make sure to patch it to a clean ROM, but instead it gives me a glitched out FireRed intro :(
Make sure you're using the correct FireRed Rom, as some of them have already been modified to support hacks (even though they're technically "clean") or they're one update (1.1) above the hack's (1.0) or vice-versa.
Download both the american version (U) 1.0 and 1.1 then try to see which one works the best for you.

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Seen July 6th, 2016
Posted June 8th, 2016
15 posts
7.1 Years
You are do the good on this game
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ranger016

Age 28
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Seen June 5th, 2021
Posted June 23rd, 2018
30 posts
8.9 Years
im playing evandors prologue on my boy on my phone but i cant proceed from the screen where its written chapter 1 izantine the arena. plz help
the current beta ends after prologue so you can't proceed further than that atm.

by the way, i probably forgot to post here before. the hack seems promising but i like the 1st mot better. and what happened to the 4th hero of this hack? did you abandon him?

Avara

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Seen 5 Days Ago
Posted April 10th, 2022
1,305 posts
11.4 Years
the current beta ends after prologue so you can't proceed further than that atm.

by the way, i probably forgot to post here before. the hack seems promising but i like the 1st mot better. and what happened to the 4th hero of this hack? did you abandon him?

Thanks! Yes I removed Anders' story because it just didn't fit in well with the rest of the theme of the hack really (one character in a completely different snowy region vs three residing in the same desert region). I haven't 100% abandoned him forever though, I might use him for something else one day =)
I will add a fourth (male) character to play as at some point, I just can't decide who it should be yet =P for now my priority is fixing the OW issues I have since (understandably) your sprite changing all the time is something people really can't get along with lol
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Seen May 26th, 2021
Posted June 26th, 2016
3 posts
8.8 Years
The different routes seem interesting so far, but I think Kala's and Zhafira's were much longer and better than Evandor's. If I had to choose which I like best, Zhafira's tale would be first and Evandor's last. It just seemed so short and nothing seems to have happened. I hope it will storywise get on par with the other two.
I like the idea of a medieval setting since I once thought about something like that in a ROM-Hack too.

While playing the prologues I encountered a few bugs or things that bug me (I think those haven't been mentioned before, but I didn't read the sixth page, so maybe they were stated there already):

Spoiler:
General:

In Evandor's and in Zhafira's Prologue there are some rooms you can't enter. I think you just didn't design the rooms yet, but if you intend to leave it like this I think it would be better to eradicate them or maybe add a script that says something why you won't enter that specific room (like with the council chamber of Zhafira's father). (I speak of the rooms which you should be able to enter because there are no guards)
Some people don't have a script if you talk to them, even if they're just plain soldiers who all talk the same bull**** xD Don't know if you just forgot to implement things for them to say or if it's intentional.
You've still got the possibility to choose to play as Anders even though his tale got terminated.


Evandor's Prologue:

When you play as kabuto you can still open the menu and if u do so and open your bag or smth else, you partially turn invisible and back to evandor. If you do so a second time you become evandor completely. The best way to solve it probably is to make the menu at the time you play as kabuto unavailable (although I don't know how exactly, but it should be possible [and it's pretty weird anyways if you can open your bag while you are Kabuto :D]). Also the stone to the upper right has the script of "trainer tips" on it :D


Kala's Prologue:

When you pick up the Sitrus Berry the last text box will turn white with red spelled letters. Also a Berry Pouch magically appears in your inventory. I think it would be better if you either had it from the start of the game or someone gives it to you ^^
If you heal Phanpy, even though you already picked up the spear it will vanish magically. In my opinion that is pretty strange ^^ I think you should either make a script at some point that explains why the spear is gone or let the player keep it and implement a way to use it later.
If you open the cells of the other prisoners multiple times, they come out of there multiple times. You probably didn't set a flag there to stop that ^^
At the time you escape the castle you leave footprints even though you are invisible. It's kinda awkward xD
When you meet Entei there is a plain black tile on the left.


Zhafira's Prologue:

The guard which guards the entrance to the hall that "is generally only used when the King has guests" lets you go through if you walk two steps above him.
Your brother tells you that he will make sure that there are no guards at the council chamber, but there are no guards anyways (although they walk towards that direction).
In the council chamber you can walk over the walls near the table where you shall manage the finances.
In the council room your brother says (if you want to be kind) "I'm sorry I couldn't talk him aut of your marraige."
When you search for Sahar there is a magical barrier which prevents you from leaving the castle. Pretty awkward if you ask me xD
If you go into the temple while searching for Sahar there stands the king but you can't talk to him. and in the upper left and upper right corner of the map you see Zhafira's sprite.
Before you go into the stables if you walk to the merchant Sahar's dead body still lies there with an arrow in the back and she just gets ignored by the merchant.
Almost next to the merchant there stands a guy who says "I'm proud to live in such a beautiful paradise!" It seems kind of strange to me since I'm pretty sure he saw Sahar getting shot from that point.
In the stables you say "Marraige?".
Noivern's overworld sprite is green when the battle is about to start, which shouldn't be the case.


I hope this massive amount of things doesn't demotivate you or something like that. I just want to be helpful ^^
I wish you good luck with this hack and hope you will manage it to do MoT and this one simultaneously!

Avara

She/Her
Seen 5 Days Ago
Posted April 10th, 2022
1,305 posts
11.4 Years
The different routes seem interesting so far, but I think Kala's and Zhafira's were much longer and better than Evandor's. If I had to choose which I like best, Zhafira's tale would be first and Evandor's last. It just seemed so short and nothing seems to have happened. I hope it will storywise get on par with the other two.
I like the idea of a medieval setting since I once thought about something like that in a ROM-Hack too.

While playing the prologues I encountered a few bugs or things that bug me (I think those haven't been mentioned before, but I didn't read the sixth page, so maybe they were stated there already):

Spoiler:
General:

In Evandor's and in Zhafira's Prologue there are some rooms you can't enter. I think you just didn't design the rooms yet, but if you intend to leave it like this I think it would be better to eradicate them or maybe add a script that says something why you won't enter that specific room (like with the council chamber of Zhafira's father). (I speak of the rooms which you should be able to enter because there are no guards)
Some people don't have a script if you talk to them, even if they're just plain soldiers who all talk the same bull**** xD Don't know if you just forgot to implement things for them to say or if it's intentional.
You've still got the possibility to choose to play as Anders even though his tale got terminated.


Evandor's Prologue:

When you play as kabuto you can still open the menu and if u do so and open your bag or smth else, you partially turn invisible and back to evandor. If you do so a second time you become evandor completely. The best way to solve it probably is to make the menu at the time you play as kabuto unavailable (although I don't know how exactly, but it should be possible [and it's pretty weird anyways if you can open your bag while you are Kabuto :D]). Also the stone to the upper right has the script of "trainer tips" on it :D


Kala's Prologue:

When you pick up the Sitrus Berry the last text box will turn white with red spelled letters. Also a Berry Pouch magically appears in your inventory. I think it would be better if you either had it from the start of the game or someone gives it to you ^^
If you heal Phanpy, even though you already picked up the spear it will vanish magically. In my opinion that is pretty strange ^^ I think you should either make a script at some point that explains why the spear is gone or let the player keep it and implement a way to use it later.
If you open the cells of the other prisoners multiple times, they come out of there multiple times. You probably didn't set a flag there to stop that ^^
At the time you escape the castle you leave footprints even though you are invisible. It's kinda awkward xD
When you meet Entei there is a plain black tile on the left.


Zhafira's Prologue:

The guard which guards the entrance to the hall that "is generally only used when the King has guests" lets you go through if you walk two steps above him.
Your brother tells you that he will make sure that there are no guards at the council chamber, but there are no guards anyways (although they walk towards that direction).
In the council chamber you can walk over the walls near the table where you shall manage the finances.
In the council room your brother says (if you want to be kind) "I'm sorry I couldn't talk him aut of your marraige."
When you search for Sahar there is a magical barrier which prevents you from leaving the castle. Pretty awkward if you ask me xD
If you go into the temple while searching for Sahar there stands the king but you can't talk to him. and in the upper left and upper right corner of the map you see Zhafira's sprite.
Before you go into the stables if you walk to the merchant Sahar's dead body still lies there with an arrow in the back and she just gets ignored by the merchant.
Almost next to the merchant there stands a guy who says "I'm proud to live in such a beautiful paradise!" It seems kind of strange to me since I'm pretty sure he saw Sahar getting shot from that point.
In the stables you say "Marraige?".
Noivern's overworld sprite is green when the battle is about to start, which shouldn't be the case.


I hope this massive amount of things doesn't demotivate you or something like that. I just want to be helpful ^^
I wish you good luck with this hack and hope you will manage it to do MoT and this one simultaneously!
Thanks so much for all your help! Some of those bugs have been mentioned already but I hadn't heard of some of those before, so I really appreciate you taking the time to let me know, I'll get around to uploading the prologue bug fixes soon. I've just switched to nightshift in my new job and I'm finding it pretty hard to get used to!

As for the Kabuto bag-thing, it isn't that simple to just disable the start menu temporarily; or I would have done it, lol. I wish it was! =( I did attempt to have a script that would detect if you pressed start on each walkable tile in the map to try and avoid this, but all it did was make the game lag and made movements look strange. So sadly that's something I'm not able to come up with a fix for at the present time =(

I know what you mean about Evandor's prologue - for the exact reason you mentioned I was surprised he was the most popular character lol. I guess it seems like there's nothing much happening, but what I was mainly trying to do with it was put everything in place to set up the storyline for the next chain of events and to introduce you to important characters. I wanted it to seem like Evandor and his family had a relatively nice care-free life before the war to come. Also, there are a few crucial choices included there that will affect gameplay later - such as whether you choose to make him favour Leon above Helen or vice versa. =)

Are the download files only designed to play the cutscenes, or is one supposed to be able to play them also?
Yep, you can play them up until the Chapter 1 screen! I'm going to release updated prologue patches to replace the ones in the main thread as they are very outdated now, I just can't seem to find the time right now haha.

KALA is stuck at chapter 1 screen, and EVANDOR can't do anything after talking to his squire buddy. I've tried patching multiple FR Roms
As stated in the main thread and a few posts above, the demos stop at Chapter 1 as they only contain the prologues; that's why you can't get past the C1 screen =)

ranger016

Age 28
Male
India
Seen June 5th, 2021
Posted June 23rd, 2018
30 posts
8.9 Years
How can I download the links. Its an '.ips' file that wont play on my OpenEmu gameboy emulator
you need a clean fire red (U) rom and the "Lunar IPS". open lunar ips > patch the ips file to the fire red rom > done. then play the fire red rom on your emulator.

Avara

She/Her
Seen 5 Days Ago
Posted April 10th, 2022
1,305 posts
11.4 Years
Hi everyone! Sorry I've been so inactive. Work is getting in the way of life, as we all know it does =P Since hitting a lot of brick walls in the development for this game, I've been thinking a lot about its future.
Rom hacking is really fun for me but the fact that it has so many limitations for what I want to do is extremely annoying - I am kind of considering moving to RMXP for this exact reason - not having to worry about space just sounds amazing haha. Although, I know this would mean a lot of you guys wouldn't be able to play (those with mobile devices/macs.)
My other alternative would be to make AoF a series on its own, which could work as it's a lot more linear than MoT anyway. This is due to the fact that there just isn't enough space in the rom for everything that I want to accomplish and the various limitations. There would need to be one game for each character, which I wouldn't mind doing, though it'd take a lot longer. Let me know your thoughts on either option!