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Old March 28th, 2005 (11:16 AM).
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These are just some random movesets that i was thinking of
Togetic{calm}@leftovers/one of the berries
EVs - hp,Def,SpDef
sesmic toss
baton pass
wish
softboiled

Articuno[modest]@salac berry
EVs - hp,SpAtt,SpDef
ice beam
HP electric
roar
endure/substitute

Altaria[calm]@leftovers
EVs - SpAtt,hp,SpDef,Def
dragon claw/fire blast/HP flying
substitute
roar
perish song
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Old March 28th, 2005 (11:20 AM).
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sandstorm ruins endure on thing without the immunity (articuno)

Other wise the sets seem fine.

I just prefer t-wave on Togetic and ice beam on Altaria but, their your sets.

BTW do you have net battle?
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Old March 28th, 2005 (11:45 AM).
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so substitute then?
yeah i have netbattle.
why?
oops my bad softboiled on togetic's moveset should have been thunderwave/toxic
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Old March 28th, 2005 (11:57 AM).
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Join the tournament called Pokemon to the max, I've only got a few ppl so far (well right now its only me but, some people told me they would join).

Yea sub over endure works.
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Old March 28th, 2005 (1:37 PM).
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The sets look alright, looks like you were thinking along a SubRoaring theme sorta thing.

Howcome Altaria has Roar and Perish Song in the same set? Roar will mess it up..

Your Articuno is the same as an old set I made up but I had Toxic over Roar.

Wishpassing Togetic is cool because he is slow enough to pull it off, so it's all good.
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Old March 28th, 2005 (1:47 PM).
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Ok i will look into it..^^
for some others

Ampharos[+Def,-Sp]
EVs - hp,Def,SpAtt,Att/SpDef
cross chop/thunderwave
thunderbolt
counter
HP ice

........shades of GSC if u want

Dewgong[calm]
EVs - Def,hp,SpDef,SpAtt
surf
toxic
encore
perish song/ice beam/rest


Tropius[adamant]
EVs - hp,Def,SpDef,Att
leech seed
synthesis
whirlwind
HP flying/earthquake

.....he sucks.
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Old March 28th, 2005 (2:03 PM).
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That Ampharos is definately different, him using Counter could be a little tough since his defence isn't great.

Dewgong.... I really do not like Encore, I've had my teams ruined because of it, just that one move, now I've resorted to simply attacking when I think something packs Encore. That Dewgong looks annoying, Encore + Toxic + Rest is an annoying combo lol, nice.

Leech Seed + Whirlwind won't work out well in the same set man.
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Old March 28th, 2005 (2:28 PM).
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lol now that i think of it leech seed + whirlwind = retarded
yeah that dewgong has taken out suicunes easily..
encore the CM and toxic.....
got to a raikou once..i toxic'd it on the switch,encored its substitute..and the rest is history..
Mind u it was a mistake on their part not to thunderbolt me one shot.
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togetic does the same thing practically.
Of course walrein does it better than both of them combined.

Slowbro[calm]
EVs - hp,def,SpAtt
counter
calm mind
rest
psychic/surf

i like psychic over surf...as water absorb kills this and unlike suicune that can roar them out, slowbro would stall out...Dark types ususally use physical attacks neway...sans houndoom.

his defenses aren't that bad,
90/75/90 in hp/def/SpDef
He can take just about all non-STABed earthquakes
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Old March 28th, 2005 (2:49 PM).
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Not bad, I think it's Counter > Psychic/Surf and it's the same as mine.

It works, CMBro can own entire teams.
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Old March 28th, 2005 (4:14 PM).
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ok i got another one.....

Quagsire[+Def,-SpAtt]
EVs - hp,Def,SpDef
earthquake
toxic
sesmic toss
counter

Saw it some where
it owned..
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Old March 28th, 2005 (5:16 PM).
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Maybe Rest somewhere in there for extra life.

Maybe over Seismic Toss, and Gengar is ALL over that set ;)
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Old March 28th, 2005 (5:42 PM).
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Oh my mistake
it is a quaggy set made for UU tournies...
so gengar should no problem..for it
as for ampharous i tired it and it owned..
didn't save the log tho.
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Old March 28th, 2005 (10:45 PM).
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UU wise that thing would kick arse.

Show us some Amphy ownage ;)
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Old March 31st, 2005 (9:46 AM).
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Ok

politoad[+SpDef,-Sp]
EVs - hp,SpAtt,Def,SpDef
surf
ice beam
counter/focus punch
HP grass/electric/hynosis/substitute

counter should be interesting on a pokemon with no physical weaknesses.....
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Old March 31st, 2005 (6:55 PM).
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That's not bad, but in that situation I'd go with Hypnosis.
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Old April 2nd, 2005 (5:27 PM).
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for my quaggy i give it: eq, hp rock (vs flying and accuracy),haze->(hey, i works if they have sub and i cant use yawn),yawn-> (switch, and in my team i use foretress with spikes, so it really works well, and i switch to quaggy from tress, when i predict a water/electric attack ie: suicune/starmie).
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