6th Gen Clean up in Wonder Trade?

Started by Nidorina of Time Lord April 11th, 2015 6:40 AM
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Nidorina of Time Lord

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My apologies if this is in the wrong place! I'm still a n00b, however I have looked at the guidelines, and this seemed fittting.
I've been trying to organize people to improve the quality of Wonder Trade. By this, I mean, NO MORE USELESS POKÉMON! I feel especially strong about this since I got an Arceus in WT. It was just so kind and genrous, and this is the least I can do.
I want to release all Zigzagoon, Wurmple, Poochyena, Ralts, and the like. I just don't think it's fair. Sure, it's all about taking a risk, but to get a lame Pokémon every single time? In replacement, let's put in better ones! Like Pokémon that aren't Wonder Traded often. Now I'm not saying you have to put in Legendaries, just something other than the norm!
I've completed my dex on OR but I just want to make WT better for everyone else! I know there's thousands, maybe millions of players, but I was just hoping I could gather enough people to make a difference.
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Somehow I have been doing exactly this. Everytime I got some "useless" Pokémon that can be caught in the very first route I had been releasing since I somehow wanted to clean up the mess.

I like your way of thinking cause it shows me I am not the only one doing this and I am not being stupid for trying to clean up a bit! :)

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Why not put Breed-jects? That's what I like doing.
I'm breeding for a shiny or rare gender, so I've been putting a ton of those in there,
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That kind of thinking is what messed up WT in the first place. Especially with the ones wondertrading off cheated ones. We do not live in a world full of innocent people, people will take advantage of those who wondertrades more 'better' pokemon with crappy weak ones since they know they will get away with it.

At first wondertrading was used more so for breeders breeding for competitives, mostly with breedjects of 1-4 ivs but as cheating become more well known to crap greedy morons who cant be bothered to spend time, wanting everything in one go, wondertrade have become mostly filled with cheated pokemon or just with crap pokemon.

However with the recent update needed for both the game itself and the 3ds, more players have been putting more crap ones since they cannot cheat anymore, this is the main reason why there are more crap ones this days. Seeing you have completed the PokeDex and fond of WT I'm pretty sure you cheated/have cheated pokemon and most likely took advantage of other people by placing crap pokemons for wondertrade so I don't see much reason why complain.

Taking on the challenge of releasing all crap pokemons taken from wondertrade is meaningless.
Pokemons like Zigzagoons, Poochyena, Wurmple, Fletchling, etc. are infinite in the wild.
Even if you have 5000 players going for the same clean up project, it will never beat the other million(s) players, especially to take account that people within your group will not be all so devoted and will likely only spend about 20 mins worth of WT before they get bored and do something else.

Cheaters seem to think wondertrading cheated poks helps people, but they mostly fail to see the reason why mythicals/legendaries ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LIMITED while also making problems in the long run. I am not strongly against cheated *not gonna runaway on a trainer with a full shiny team, etc.*, but I do not appreciate them.
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YOU ARE ASSUMING I CHEATED JUST BECAUSE I COMPLETED MY DEX?I did not cheat to get any of my Pokémon. I have no idea why you would accuse me that. And if you disagree, just stay out of this. I was only trying to be nice. I already stated that this idea may not work.
I DO NOT CHEAT OR KNOWINGLY ACCEPT POKÉMON CREATED BY CHEATS. I'm not saying to add cheat Pokémon either. And I was just hoping to change the pool a bit. :(
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YOU ARE ASSUMING I CHEATED JUST BECAUSE I COMPLETED MY DEX?I did not cheat to get any of my Pokémon. I have no idea why you would accuse me that. And if you disagree, just stay out of this. I was only trying to be nice. I already stated that this idea may not work.
I DO NOT CHEAT OR KNOWINGLY ACCEPT POKÉMON CREATED BY CHEATS. I'm not saying to add cheat Pokémon either. And I was just hoping to change the pool a bit. :(
I said ''cheated/have cheated pokemon'' implying that you either cheated or obtained cheated ones off WT, knowing or unknowingly. Meaning if you obtained a mythical/legendary(s) in WT it is most likely to be cheated since who would trade them off randomly anyway which also goes for shinnies, this would also mean there is a big chance you have gained advantage by keeping unknowingly cheated pokemon this is why I made the conclusion that you shouldn't be complaining. And if I/anyone disagree, this is a discussion forum. If you do let people who oppose you bring their points I do not know why you would make this thread. I am only bringing general facts and also realistic conclusions.

The use of / is to mean OR, For example apple/lemon will mean apple or lemon. So I did not actually accuse you of cheating, only made the suggestion that you may have gained them in WT.
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Hey, I'm really sorry for yelling at you. I suppose I just misinterpreted what you said. And in retrospect, this thread was probably a bad idea. Maybe some of my Pokémon from WT are fakes- I've got an unbelievable amount of shinies.
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Hey, I'm really sorry for yelling at you. I suppose I just misinterpreted what you said. And in retrospect, this thread was probably a bad idea. Maybe some of my Pokémon from WT are fakes- I've got an unbelievable amount of shinies.
Well Ima say the mooshy thing of 'it's the thought that counts'~

Anyways... A person called Sleepy Jirachi already tried something of the same area...
He did a '#cleanthegts' thing to get rid of pokemon. mostly mythicals with curse words *For example, Ebola Ni**er, I **** UR MOM, etc.* as their rename, which shouldn't even exist because mythicals like Mew, Celebi, etc. are not supposed to be re-nameable.
He was on a game article as a person trying to clean it up... He is also a cheater, so it's really a cheater cleaning up the mess of other cheaters.
His project of course didnt take him far for the reasons I mentioned... As cheated pokemon is also infinite.

However... He is also the key figure in spreading how to cheat through his channels and website. So by far... It is also his fault why it happened in the first place.
Excellent sample of why cheaters are just stupid lazy people who cant even think of the problems that can arise in the long run...
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When i do challenged run throughs, i use WT. other than that, i dont bother. WT is cool, but utterly useless after the first couple of months of gaming.
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I too know what it's like - nothing more aggravating than receiving the same early game junk over Wonder Trade so many times. Sadly, it seems like that's just what people want to do.
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@ Pendra~

...with the recent update needed for both the game itself and the 3ds, more players have been putting more crap ones since they cannot cheat anymore, this is the main reason why there are more crap ones this days.
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I know I was a bit unclear before. So...,I'm not saying there should be NO junk Pokémon in WT, because there needs to be some thrill. I'm just wishing there was less because it's annoying to get one every single time. Nor am I saying to put cheated ones or your best legends/shinies. I was thinking things like version exclusive Pokémon, or ones you get later in the game. I use the Pokénav to find Pokémon with exclamation! points and put those in, if I decide not to keep them.
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I... don't find it too bad, even now? Maybe I WT at good times, but I tend to get a lot of breed-jects (consequently, I am tired of seeing Ralts, Fletchling, Froakie, Gible and Honedge) and, yeah, a decent amount of Wurmples et al, but they don't bother me that much.

OTOH, I also never run into the people who send off (blatantly) hacked/cheated pokemon (i.e. six IV shiny Rayquaza or smth). I think the time you WT does make a difference, as well as pure luck.
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That kind of thinking is what messed up WT in the first place. Especially with the ones wondertrading off cheated ones. We do not live in a world full of innocent people, people will take advantage of those who wondertrades more 'better' pokemon with crappy weak ones since they know they will get away with it.

At first wondertrading was used more so for breeders breeding for competitives, mostly with breedjects of 1-4 ivs but as cheating become more well known to crap greedy morons who cant be bothered to spend time, wanting everything in one go, wondertrade have become mostly filled with cheated pokemon or just with crap pokemon.

However with the recent update needed for both the game itself and the 3ds, more players have been putting more crap ones since they cannot cheat anymore, this is the main reason why there are more crap ones this days. Seeing you have completed the PokeDex and fond of WT I'm pretty sure you cheated/have cheated pokemon and most likely took advantage of other people by placing crap pokemons for wondertrade so I don't see much reason why complain.

Taking on the challenge of releasing all crap pokemons taken from wondertrade is meaningless.
Pokemons like Zigzagoons, Poochyena, Wurmple, Fletchling, etc. are infinite in the wild.
Even if you have 5000 players going for the same clean up project, it will never beat the other million(s) players, especially to take account that people within your group will not be all so devoted and will likely only spend about 20 mins worth of WT before they get bored and do something else.

Cheaters seem to think wondertrading cheated poks helps people, but they mostly fail to see the reason why mythicals/legendaries ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LIMITED while also making problems in the long run. I am not strongly against cheated *not gonna runaway on a trainer with a full shiny team, etc.*, but I do not appreciate them.
You are right, lots of cheated mons in Wondertrade.
But there are some legitimate Shinies and Legendaries in the mix.
I only say that cause I throw them in occasionally (when I'm in a good mood and feeling generous)
I finished my dex with a lot of pain staking effort. (been carrying most of it through for generations, god damn hate the stupid gen 4 ---> 5 minigame)
And as an avid breeder, I often donate my 4-5IV pokes that are spares cause the IV theyre missing isnt the one I wanted to be missing.
I keep most my shinies, but if I get 2 of one, or im just feeling good, ill send it on its way to someone who may use it.
And due to using pokebank, and multiple times playing the games, Ill occasionally pass along a legend just cause I can.
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The only Legend I ever put in WT was a Zekrom. It was because it had a weird nickname and no one would take it. A few days later I got a Shiny Zekrom in Wonder Trade.
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You are right, lots of cheated mons in Wondertrade.
But there are some legitimate Shinies and Legendaries in the mix.
I only say that cause I throw them in occasionally (when I'm in a good mood and feeling generous)
I finished my dex with a lot of pain staking effort. (been carrying most of it through for generations, god damn hate the stupid gen 4 ---> 5 minigame)
And as an avid breeder, I often donate my 4-5IV pokes that are spares cause the IV theyre missing isnt the one I wanted to be missing.
I keep most my shinies, but if I get 2 of one, or im just feeling good, ill send it on its way to someone who may use it.
And due to using pokebank, and multiple times playing the games, Ill occasionally pass along a legend just cause I can.
What I say is from general info.
It would take years to write possibilities for the minority.
But the majority will probably change as there will be less that will/can cheat since they won't be able to go online unless they update their game.
However kudos to you. For trying to make a difference.
But only a small minority against the majority will really not make much difference therefore I congratulate Nintendo in releasing a game update to stop this cheating methods.
But the reality is that... Those cheated pokemon will always gonna be in the system now.

Crappy people with no conscience of breaking people's hard work.*GameFreak*
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I hate hearing people call any pokemon garbage pokemon, I mean, seriously, who are YOU to decide what I should consider good or not? Sure Bidoof are common in X and Y, but there's absolutely NONE in ORAS, so if I wanted a Bidoof, why am I not allowed to get one from wonder trade because some elitists decided that it's a garbage pokemon so no one should be allowed to have one unless they buy X or Y?

For that matter, why should we expect to solely get 5IV, perfect, battle ready pokemon with smogon approved movesets from Wonder Trade? How is that any different than using the PKHEX cheat or getting a Power Save? You're still trying to get a perfect pokemon with no work involved. I loved getting that first Wurmple from Wonder Trade when Pokebank first went live in Japan (as it wasn't available in North America), I didn't care that it was just some random level 1 pokemon with no IVs, I can breed myself to get the nature and spread I want. I wonder Trade my breedjects (multiple IVs, Egg moves, and/or hidden abilities if applicable) but why does everything that gets traded on wonder trade need to pass your criteria of what is good or not?

Can you not think about other people for that matter? I know when I first got the game the very first day I wonder Traded a Pidgey I got in Y on the very first route and got some cool pokemon from later in the game (don't remember which one right now, could have been a flabebe, could have been a Gollett, I genuinely don't recall) but it was exciting because it was the very first time I ever did that and it was exciting to get a pokemon I had never seen before randomly through wonder trade. Why is no one else allowed to get that little bit of excitement until they reach the end of the game and are only catching or breeding "good" or rare pokemon based on what you deem should and should not be allowed? Think how exciting it is for a little kid who maybe this is their first time playing ANY pokemon game gets to catch a Scatterbug, wondertrades it and gets a level 1 Gible and they play through the game and it becomes one of that kid's most used pokemon and they develop a fondness for this randomly acquired Gible that someone else didn't want and they keep it for a good long while out of sentimental attachment, who are you to decide that they don't deserve that little bit of fun and enjoyment out of a game designed to be fun and enjoyed by it's players because you decided that a Scatterbug is garbage? How about use wonder trade not as a one stop shop to only get the best of the best of what you deem is good pokemon and use it as it was intends when you rarely get something good, it's more meaningful than if you always get something good.
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How do we feel about Wondertrading Eevee's?
I've been breeding for a Eeveelutions team, except I've bred for all 9 possibilities, cause I cant decide what I want my team to be.
I havent finished yet, but still have like 130+ spare eevees with 4-6IVs, just didnt have the nature, or the sex, or pokeball I wanted. (Yes im being that fussy)
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I hate hearing people call any pokemon garbage pokemon, I mean, seriously, who are YOU to decide what I should consider good or not? Sure Bidoof are common in X and Y, but there's absolutely NONE in ORAS, so if I wanted a Bidoof, why am I not allowed to get one from wonder trade because some elitists decided that it's a garbage pokemon so no one should be allowed to have one unless they buy X or Y?

For that matter, why should we expect to solely get 5IV, perfect, battle ready pokemon with smogon approved movesets from Wonder Trade? How is that any different than using the PKHEX cheat or getting a Power Save? You're still trying to get a perfect pokemon with no work involved. I loved getting that first Wurmple from Wonder Trade when Pokebank first went live in Japan (as it wasn't available in North America), I didn't care that it was just some random level 1 pokemon with no IVs, I can breed myself to get the nature and spread I want. I wonder Trade my breedjects (multiple IVs, Egg moves, and/or hidden abilities if applicable) but why does everything that gets traded on wonder trade need to pass your criteria of what is good or not?

Can you not think about other people for that matter? I know when I first got the game the very first day I wonder Traded a Pidgey I got in Y on the very first route and got some cool pokemon from later in the game (don't remember which one right now, could have been a flabebe, could have been a Gollett, I genuinely don't recall) but it was exciting because it was the very first time I ever did that and it was exciting to get a pokemon I had never seen before randomly through wonder trade. Why is no one else allowed to get that little bit of excitement until they reach the end of the game and are only catching or breeding "good" or rare pokemon based on what you deem should and should not be allowed? Think how exciting it is for a little kid who maybe this is their first time playing ANY pokemon game gets to catch a Scatterbug, wondertrades it and gets a level 1 Gible and they play through the game and it becomes one of that kid's most used pokemon and they develop a fondness for this randomly acquired Gible that someone else didn't want and they keep it for a good long while out of sentimental attachment, who are you to decide that they don't deserve that little bit of fun and enjoyment out of a game designed to be fun and enjoyed by it's players because you decided that a Scatterbug is garbage? How about use wonder trade not as a one stop shop to only get the best of the best of what you deem is good pokemon and use it as it was intends when you rarely get something good, it's more meaningful than if you always get something good.
So uhm... Not really sure who you are targeting with that comment since I called Zigs, Pooches, etc. ''crap'', while the thread maker called them ''useless'' but...

No one in here is arguing that it is completely wrong to get those kind of pokemon (Wurmple, Poochyena, Pidgey, Wingull, Zigzagoon, etc.). People commonly label them crap, etc. since they will rarely win any serious in-game/online battle and will most times be replaced with something better *hence why they are always the ones being wondertraded*.
Nor is anyone saying that breedjects shouldn't be WT unless its perfect.
And useless is defined on how THEY ARE NOT USED generally.
Your argument for example, on the lack of Bidoof in OR/AS is no where connected on the topic if it is useless/garbage/crap or good, and I am thinking about other people hmmmmmm... I think that if they are specifically looking for a pokemon it is common sense to instead look for them in GTS, it will be easier that way in all manners, why the unnecessary 'hardwork'.

But what is one of the topics being argued here is that the problem with the majority of WT-ers ACTIVELY SEARCHING FOR PERFECT POKs/LEGENDS/MYTHICAL, depositing CRAP pokemon in their wake.
Crap pokemon HAS been defined in this thread before as the commonly starter route pokemon such as Poochyena, Zigzagoon, Wingull, Wurmple, Scatterbug, Pidgey, etc. BUT to be fair... Gardevoir/Gallade/Ludiculo/Vivilion/Pidgeot can kick ass~ Maybe Mighthyena too if one revises their team well. But that's not what are being REPEATEDLY traded here.
WHO THE HELL EVER SAYS A GIBLE IS USELESS?! Your argument points is mixed and mashed on things. You imply that Scatterbug is not garbage but you wondertrade it off and instead gets a Gible that you use instead, then defend yourself by saying ''who are you to decide that they don't deserve that little bit of fun and enjoyment out of a game designed to be fun and enjoyed by it's players because you decided that a Scatterbug is garbage?'' . You have to revise your points here. They are not forever gonna keep it at that, but evolve it... So yes, Scatterbug is garbage.

Secondly, you are very concise on your experiences, stating that you LOVED THE FIRST TIME getting the foreign*different game/different country* Wurmple, etc. but the question is that did you equally love it for the second time, third time, 20th time? *Yes, I will go that far since I am expecting you love to WT.*

There is no set criteria, but what needs to happen is that the hardwork*hatching/breeding* of other people *breeders* should not be repeatedly exploited by people actively looking for a quick way out of training, having already 2-5 IVs/EM/HA, etc. on them... So IS IT NOT ALSO LIKE cheating *not saying it is* if a player keeps actively searching for these at the start of the game, having already multiple Lvl. 100/legendaries/mythicals even before the first gym or before the national dex is unlocked ?

Finally, what would you prefer?
The previous atmosphere in WT whereby people mostly DO trade BREEDJECTS/pokemon only available further in the game*or only on another game* rather than those Wurmples, Pooches, etc. Or do you prefer this days where you will most commonly get them USELESS pokemon. One of the key icons of your argument is based off on excitement which will soon dissipate after they repeatedly get the same types of USELESS pokemon. Because THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO TODAY to ACTIVELY LOOK FOR MYTHICALS/LEGENDARIES/PERFECT TRAINED/HIGH LEVELLED/LVL 100 pokemon. So YOU ARE ARGUING FOR SOMETHING THAT KILLS THE ENJOYMENT.

Oh and Smogon sets is good but, if you notice they are limiting possibilities in pokemon. Sets there is to counter other pokemon sets with already ''programmed'' IV/EVs/Moves, this is especially magnified when the general public don't bother going through damage calculations themselves. So they either always go to smogon or do vanilla sets of 252/252/4. So to reflect the nature of one of your questions, for example; Who says that Dialga shouldn't learn Roar of Time for competitive aspects just because it's not considered by smogon? Because I can tell you now that an Eject Button/Timid/ Dialga w/Roar of Time still catches people off guard when I use it, especially if its on Trick Room with a bulky Quiet Nature since I can most times KO them as a mid/late-sweeper while being a semi-status absorber *cannot be poisoned, burn attack decrease is not effective and paralyze further hasten Dialga*.

Yes, smogon is not compulsory sets but if the general public at most times use it, it might as well be called compulsory.

So to conclude, no one in here is saying that starter route pokemon shouldn't exist in WT, but should be far less... There is no criteria... No one in here is saying that there should only be perfect pokemon in WT... If one is looking for a specific pokemon GTS exist for that... YOU SERIOUSLY HAVE TO READ THE OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE COMMENTING... And finally... YOU HAVE TO REALLY REVISE ON YOUR POINTS OF ARGUMENTS.

*Not sure why 3 people liked when the comment did not make sense*

And Smogon shouldn't be classed as the top, ever. But originality should. It's only when the sets in there is not followed will a player actually have the potential to be an ace, since there is no predictability.
I mean this is exactly why Japanese people are good since most of them don't understand english in that extent, so therefore they're not limited by such sites and if you are curious there is no Japanese website that is entirely devoted to giving out EV spread, etc. Plus, Se Jun Park was able to beat the metagame since no one ever expected a Pachirisu(nor the sets of the other pokemon he was running with, MoonBlast AND Dazzling Beam Gardevoir/Overheat & Quick Guard Mixed TalonFlame), there wasn't even a set on PAchirisu at that time in Smogon, nor was Super Fang ever taken seriously by the general public before it. The metagame exist because there is predictability on Usage/EVS/IVS/Moves.
You may argue about some people not supporting Smogon, but it's the rules they don't agree with, not the sets they give out on people.
The only viable/useful point you had is that it is more meaningful to get good pokemon rarely.
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Pretty much the entire premise around Wonder Trade is that you don't know what you'll get, so if you're angry that you don't get a "good" pokémon every time then you're missing the point. Honestly, if you don't like what you get, just Wonder Trade it again, there's absolutely no penalty for doing it.