*A Freshly Scented Garden* Grass-type Club Page 3

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Hmm...I kinda want to see a Mega Trevenant. Bet everyone was expecting a Grass type starter. It bet it would look pretty awesome, and I like seeing one of my favorite Pokemon get Megas. Errr...that's kinda of the only reason actually. I like how it already performs in battle, though I guess some power boots wouldn't be bad.

Being predictable now, I think that those poor Grass type starters (except for Veunsaur and Sceptile) deserve their Mega forms too.

I agree with the other starters. I think Meganium is in desperate need of one and they have a chance to make her useable again.
And also hoping that meganium's design improves a little bit with the mega as well. xD

How about a mega Sawsbuck? Changes into grass/fairy typing because it's distantly related to Xerneus? xD
Well, Grass-type Starters receiving Megas are sort of given, the only question is when is it gonna happen? But I'm not further elaborating on the starters.

I would like to see a Mega Roserade, she needs to be speedy and hit hard like a Hydreigon. >:)
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I would like to see a Mega Roserade, she needs to be speedy and hit hard like a Hydreigon. >:)
Mega Roserade would be great too. I used a shiny Roserade (I loves him so much!) during my playthrough with X version. I was pretty satisfied with performance in battle, but there's always room for improvement!

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Mega Roserade would be great too. I used a shiny Roserade (I loves him so much!) during my playthrough with X version. I was pretty satisfied with performance in battle, but there's always room for improvement!
The reason why I brought up Roserade, it's not only because it's my favorite Grass (along Vileplume and a few Grasses actually). It's because the Abilities Roserade has, are no longer beneficial to its kind. Grass Pokémon are immune to Powder moves (a natural Overcoat), so that makes Natural Cure less useful. While Leaf Guard, which are Budew and Roselia's Hidden Ability, gets useless than ever.
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The reason why I brought up Roserade, it's not only because it's my favorite Grass (along Vileplume and a few Grasses actually). It's because the Abilities Roserade has, are no longer beneficial to its kind. Grass Pokémon are immune to Powder moves (a natural Overcoat), so that makes Natural Cure less useful. While Leaf Guard, which are Budew and Roselia's Hidden Ability, gets useless than ever.
I suppose that is true, though mine has Poison Point, so I've never really dealt with a Roserade that has a useless ability.

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I suppose that is true, though mine has Poison Point, so I've never really dealt with a Roserade that has a useless ability.
Actually Roserade with Poison Point is the worst. That's why I didn't bother mentioning as I thought you know already! {XD} That said, it really means Roserade is desperate with a Mega Evolution.

Technician Roserade is good, but not great enough as she couldn't make use of the Ability to the fullest. Tragic.
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Actually, I find Poison Point to be a favored ability of mine. Physical contact has a chance of leaving the opponent Poisoned? I like it, because then I don't have to take up one of the four move slots for an attack that does the same thing. Even though it's only got a chance of activating, it seems to activate pretty often for me.

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I suppose that is true, though mine has Poison Point, so I've never really dealt with a Roserade that has a useless ability.
Actually Roserade with Poison Point is the worst. That's why I didn't bother mentioning as I thought you know already! {XD} That said, it really means Roserade is desperate with a Mega Evolution.

Technician Roserade is good, but not great enough as she couldn't make use of the Ability to the fullest. Tragic.
I have used Poison Point Roserade but at least it's better than nothing. I never tried the Technician variant myself but with the fact it doesn't learn much to abuse it makes it not as appealing as it first looks. Pretty much all I recall that it can really take advantage of is Hidden Power and Magical Leaf, the latter of which ignores accuracy/evasion modifiers so with a Technician Roserade it'll actually hit as hard as Energy Ball, which is pretty potent.

If I had to call any variant of the Roselia line totally useless as of 6th Gen, it'd be Natural Cure because as you said, Grass-types now having auto-immunity to spore and powder moves mean it's harder to inflict status on it now.
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Actually, I find Poison Point to be a favored ability of mine. Physical contact has a chance of leaving the opponent Poisoned? I like it, because then I don't have to take up one of the four move slots for an attack that does the same thing. Even though it's only got a chance of activating, it seems to activate pretty often for me.
I have used Poison Point Roserade but at least it's better than nothing. I never tried the Technician variant myself but with the fact it doesn't learn much to abuse it makes it not as appealing as it first looks. Pretty much all I recall that it can really take advantage of is Hidden Power and Magical Leaf, the latter of which ignores accuracy/evasion modifiers so with a Technician Roserade it'll actually hit as hard as Energy Ball, which is pretty potent.

If I had to call any variant of the Roselia line totally useless as of 6th Gen, it'd be Natural Cure because as you said, Grass-types now having auto-immunity to spore and powder moves mean it's harder to inflict status on it now.
Poison Point is actually a neat Ability, it's Roserade's low Defense made it bad for her. As it's a kind of Ability that is beneficial for those with high Defensive stat, which Roserade lacks on one defensive area. Which further extends to her another Ability, Natural Cure. If she has a high Defense and Special Defense, she can take advantage of the move Rest.

Natural Cure was actually the perfect Ability for the bouquet Pokémon prior the upgrade for Grass-types. As she could act as a sponge for the powder moves and other status inflicting moves. Well the Ability still has use, Thunder Wave and the less common Will-O-Wisp can be seen in the competitive area.

Nichole, pretty much said it about Technician. It's an another classic example of bad ability-match up for her. On the other hand, look how Scizor and even Hitmontop utilizes the said Ability.

I've never been good at utilizing Roserade, haha. It could wind up to be deadly with correct strategy, but I don't believe I've been able to figure out what it is nor how it works.
The perfect offensive Roserade for Gen VI should Timid/Modest with Technician.
Her moveset should:
Leaf Storm/Energy Ball/Giga Drain (Life Orb)
Sleep Powder
Sludge Bomb/Dazzling Gleam
Hidden Power Fire/Shadow Ball
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My Roserade's name is Duke. I also kinda have some trouble using him.
He's a little fragile. So he doesn't really make my grass team also seeing as he's grass/poison and I have Belle for that.
She's my Venusaur.

Roserade is a bit fragile, so I would love for it to get a mega as well and maybe get some defense boost to it along with a usable ability.

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My Roserade's name is Duke. I also kinda have some trouble using him.
He's a little fragile. So he doesn't really make my grass team also seeing as he's grass/poison and I have Belle for that.
She's my Venusaur.

Roserade is a bit fragile, so I would love for it to get a mega as well and maybe get some defense boost to it along with a usable ability.
Roserade should be able to block some Special based moves, bar the obvious weakness. :)

On to our current topic: (originally from CharmedGardy @ Psychic-type Club)
Which current non-Grass type Pokemon should be a Grass-type and why?
Which current non-Grass-type move should be a Grass-type move and why?
Which current Grass-type move should not be Grass-type and why?
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I feel like Farfetch'd should be a Grass type Pokemon. Mainly just because of the stalk it always holds.

Growth
is surprisingly a Normal type move. Just looking at its name, you'd think it should be a Grass type move. The only Pokemon that can learn it by level-up are Grass types. "In intense sunlight, Growth raises Attack and Special Attack by two stages each." Sunlight is important for plants to grow.

I can't really think of any Grass type moves that shouldn't be Grass type moves.

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Which current non-Grass type Pokemon should be a Grass-type and why?
I'll Agree with Rain T Farfertch'd Kinda always came of as a grass and flying type in my eyes.

Which current non-Grass-type move should be a Grass-type move and why?
Once again agreeing with Rain T here i mean Growth really it should be for plants and grass types!

Which current Grass-type move should not be Grass-type and why?
Aromatherapy perhaps? its really the only one i can think of that could not be a grass type move but alot of the grass type moves make more sense than other types.
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I feel like Farfetch'd should be a Grass type Pokemon. Mainly just because of the stalk it always holds.

Growth
is surprisingly a Normal type move. Just looking at its name, you'd think it should be a Grass type move. The only Pokemon that can learn it by level-up are Grass types. "In intense sunlight, Growth raises Attack and Special Attack by two stages each." Sunlight is important for plants to grow.

I can't really think of any Grass type moves that shouldn't be Grass type moves.
Which current non-Grass type Pokemon should be a Grass-type and why?
I'll Agree with Rain T Farfertch'd Kinda always came of as a grass and flying type in my eyes.

Which current non-Grass-type move should be a Grass-type move and why?
Once again agreeing with Rain T here i mean Growth really it should be for plants and grass types!

Which current Grass-type move should not be Grass-type and why?
Aromatherapy perhaps? its really the only one i can think of that could not be a grass type move but alot of the grass type moves make more sense than other types.
Woah how could I forgot that wild duck! xD I say Sudowoodo should be a Grass-type too!

Sweet Scent is also a Normal-type, when it's suppose to be a Grass-type move [s]or Fairy or Bug[/]!

Perhap Cotton Spore and Cotton Guard? Cottons are exclusively for plant related things. (Ahem! Mareep says hi.)

And Rain T, I'm really happy and grateful that you're trying your best to keep up with this club every time I post a new topic. :')
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Woah how could I forgot that wild duck! xD I say Sudowoodo should be a Grass-type too!

Sweet Scent is also a Normal-type, when it's suppose to be a Grass-type move [s]or Fairy or Bug[/]!

Perhap Cotton Spore and Cotton Guard? Cottons are exclusively for plant related things. (Ahem! Mareep says hi.)

And Rain T, I'm really happy and grateful that you're trying your best to keep up with this club every time I post a new topic. :')
Oh ya i forgot Sudowoodo seriously why is he a rock type? He looks like a tree i mean seriously what is wrong with the world xD

Sweet Scent i agree with cause it makes no sense to have it be normal. Cotton i guess cause it grows on a plant it makes alittle sense atleast though haha
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And Rain T, I'm really happy and grateful that you're trying your best to keep up with this club every time I post a new topic. :')
No problem. :) You pick out some pretty fun topics to discuss.

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Which current non-Grass type Pokémon should be a Grass-type and why?
A lot of bug-type Pokémon we have out there could partially be categorized as grass, in my opinion. One example of this would be Dustox, mainly due to the grass-like features it has attached onto its body (such as its wings, which do resemble grass), as well as the amount of grass attacks Dustox has access to.

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Oh ya i forgot Sudowoodo seriously why is he a rock type? He looks like a tree i mean seriously what is wrong with the world xD

Sweet Scent i agree with cause it makes no sense to have it be normal. Cotton i guess cause it grows on a plant it makes alittle sense atleast though haha
I get Sudowoodo was meant to fool the players/a novelty Pokémon, since he's known as The Imitation Pokémon.
But he already served his purpose well on his design, right? So it's pointless to make him a Rock-type Pokémon. At least make him a Grass and Rock-type Pokémon!

Which current non-Grass type Pokémon should be a Grass-type and why?
A lot of bug-type Pokémon we have out there could partially be categorized as grass, in my opinion. One example of this would be Dustox, mainly due to the grass-like features it has attached onto its body (such as its wings, which do resemble grass), as well as the amount of grass attacks Dustox has access to.
I feel you! When I was using Beautifly around a decade ago, I wondered why Beautifly isn't part Grass-type. It can learn more than draining moves, it learns Energy Ball and Solar Beam (through TM, which can be argued. haha.)

No problem. :) You pick out some pretty fun topics to discuss.
Thanks, it's active members like you keeps the club on and that's my motivation of course!

Now on to our new topic! ;)

We can't deny the fact that Grass-types has a lot of weaknesses. Some people even goes as far as to laugh at our type, so here's the thing.

Main topics:
If you can kick out at least one of Grass-type's weakness*, which type would it be? Why?
*Fire, Flying, Bug, Ice, Poison-type moves.
Which type(s) of move the Grass should able to resist?
What types should be weak to the Grass-type moves?


On the first glance, it looks like an easy topic, but it isn't! xD So your take time fixing your answers.
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In terms of balance, I guess ice would be the best to remove as a weakness.
I mean, there are still trees on mountains. lol And they are living things. Animals would also freeze in the winter time. @[email protected]
But plants can at least grow back I guess and not exactly 'die.'

I think plants should resist poison due to the fact that herbs are used for healing.
And of course poison can kill plants too, but poison would kill regular animals too as well. xD
Poison should gain another type to be strong against. How about water?

No more types should be super affective. I love battling, so there's no need to give it even more weaknesses, when it still has more than most. xD

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In terms of balance, I guess ice would be the best to remove as a weakness.
I mean, there are still trees on mountains. lol And they are living things. Animals would also freeze in the winter time. @[email protected]
But plants can at least grow back I guess and not exactly 'die.'

I think plants should resist poison due to the fact that herbs are used for healing.
And of course poison can kill plants too, but poison would kill regular animals too as well. xD
Poison should gain another type to be strong against. How about water?

No more types should be super affective. I love battling, so there's no need to give it even more weaknesses, when it still has more than most. xD
You are right on the money! Not all kinds of plants and flora die in cold areas, in fact there are some that grows in those environment. So Game Freak sort of generalized plants on being weak at frigid environments; it's unfair how Normal-type Pokémon get neutral damage from Ice-moves then. Because most mammals can't stand the cold, unless they are fully adapted to it!

I think Bug-moves. Some real plants are actually bug repellent, some plants can even go as far as eating an insect a bug. Sound gross, but my point is they can't simply make Grass-Pokémon weak to Bug-moves. This is a similar point to the Ice-Grass thing Kenshin has brought up earlier!

I think Grass Pokémon should be able to resist Fairy-type moves, since they are sharing a symbiosis relationship. Or in rare cases, the plants and floras can be overwhelming to the Fairies.

Oops, seems like I worded it wrongly. :P I'll fix that part! I mean What types should be weak to the Grass-type moves?
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If you could kick out at least one of the Grass type's weaknesses, which would it be and why? Very good points with the Ice, Poison, and Bug. However, I'd say that Flying just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Most Flying types are modeled after some kind of bird, right? Well, I'd say that about the worst a bird could do to a plant was nest in it, or eat its seeds. The others, I can see making sense. Fire burns up plants. Many plants will die from the cold, though not all. While some plants may act as antidotes to poison, the majority can still be killed with poisons. And while some plants eat bugs, more plants are the ones that get eaten by the bugs. So, to me, Flying makes the least sense, and is the one I would choose to toss.

Which types of moves should Grass be able to resist? Another good point made about how Grass should be able to resist Fairy. In my personal opinion, though, I believe that the Grass types resistances are fine as they are.

What types should be weak to Grass? If, logically thinking, Bug is strong against Grass because bugs eat plants and Poison is strong against Grass because poison kills plants, then, continuing to speak logically, it should be one of those situations where the types are both strong against the other. Some plants eat insects, so it would make sense for Grass to take double damage from Bug types, but to also dish out double damage to Bug types. The same can be said for Poison. As some herbs heal poison, but poison can also kill plants, then it makes sense for Poison to do double damage to Grass and for Grass to do double damage to Poison. That said, I think of the rest of the types that Grass is strong against (Water, Rock, and Ground) are pretty spot on.

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I realized we have 8 main topics already, but I still haven't let you guys make a topic yet.
Would you like to make a new topic, Rain? :)
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Me? Really? Alright, let's see....well, I've always enjoyed the idea of Pokemon fusions, so...
Which two Grass type Pokemon would you want to fuse together? Why?
This is an interesting topic! ;) Make sure to tell us yours and don't kill me if I change the topic after your reply, since we are the only active members of this club! {XD}

Okay, now on the topic. I say Meganium and Tropius! Since their structure are so similar, their designs are definitely going to compliment each other!

An another one on my imagination is Bellossom and Venusaur! {XD} Imagine if Bellossom replaces that huge flower on Venusaur's back! {XD}
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