Stubborn know-it-alls

Started by Alfieri October 12th, 2015 6:35 PM
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Have you ever come across someone who almost always has to disagree with what you say and will continuously believe they are correct? They'll even think they are correct when you prove them wrong and correct them with proper proof. At that point I just stop talking to that kind of person but it truly bothers me that people can be so close minded or full of themselves.

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My mom. And my dad. It's great at home. :(

Because neither of them will ever admit they're wrong about anything, it gets pretty tiring. Spare you the details of the more serious arguments at home, but one really stupid example was like a week or two ago - they literally had a 10 minute argument about who's watch had the correct time and even after my dad turned on the TV to prove that his watch was on the right minute, the argument continued until my dad left for work.

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My little sister -_-' we can have a half hour argument about something and when I show her proof she'll say 'yeah, see that's what I was saying' and act like she was arguing my point the entire time..... She may be just doing it to annoy me but she's 19 and in uni, pain in the neck child

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My little sister -_-' we can have a half hour argument about something and when I show her proof she'll say 'yeah, see that's what I was saying' and act like she was arguing my point the entire time..... She may be just doing it to annoy me but she's 19 and in uni, pain in the neck child
That's exactly what my twin would do, and I got so angry at him. It got to the point where I stopped talking to him for about two months. Every time he tried to tell me something, I got up and walked away. It worked, but I don't really understand how someone could do that. They have to know they're wrong, right?
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My boyfriend's dad tried to tell me that the Oregon school shooting didn't happen. Or Sandy Hook. Or any of them. I was barely getting any rebuttals out of my mouth (like my sentences weren't even allowed to be finished) and he'd disagree with me and tell me about how there's "proof" they didn't happen and I ended up leaving for my class half an hour before it started. I told him I had to go learn things that were actually proven.
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I don't argue if I don't think I have to.

Show, not tell.

If I think I'm right, I won't go out of my way to keep saying it. I'll do something to show that I'm right, or in other words, present irrefutable evidence that the opposite party is clearly wrong.

If I don't think I can prove I'm right, then there's no reason to argue in the first place at all. How can I claim someone is wrong when I can't prove that I'm right?

And this goes both ways. If I have a feeling the opposing party cannot prove their side, then I'll have them show me the evidence. Show me the numbers, the data, the research, whatever it takes. Who's the source? What is the source? When was this information published? If the opposing party is so concerned with proving me wrong, I'll gladly accept "defeat" if they can back themselves up. Otherwise, it's all just fluffy words. If they won't give it up, then they can live in ignorance. It's their loss, not mine. I can go about my day just fine.

No support = nothing proven. All assumptions and/or opinions and therefore neither right nor wrong.

I've gone without any issues professionally and personally by behaving this way for the better part of the last decade.
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Well sure but you have to know when to bite the bullet. Most of these people use their opinions and feelings like they are facts. You can't argue with that. Someone's feelings or opinions will never be made wrong. This is why debating politics or religion gets sloppy. They bring feelings into it, not facts.
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Well sure but you have to know when to bite the bullet. Most of these people use their opinions and feelings like they are facts. You can't argue with that. Someone's feelings or opinions will never be made wrong. This is why debating politics or religion gets sloppy. They bring feelings into it, not facts.
QFT.

The more you try to argue your points just for the sake of arguing, the more you yourself take on the "stubborn know-it-all" role.

You have to sit back and really think about the situation. Does this person actually know what he/she is talking about? Or is this person just incredibly passionate about the subject at hand (and is guided by emotion)? Do you yourself actually know the topic inside and out? Are you 100% sure each and every word you're choosing is 100% irrefutable fact? Can you prove it on the spot to put an end to the debate?

There are other factors, too. But like what's mentioned, you have to be the judge of the situation lest you become exactly who you're ranting against.

If the party you're arguing against still won't accept despite what you've brought to the table, then good for you. You can walk away knowing they'll be under a rock for a while longer.
I *am* one of those people. I suppose that's not the sort of thing one should really admit, but I don't argue with people unless I know I'm right. It comes from living and dealing with people like that, I suppose: my mother has this attitude in spades, and it's always me she tries to argue with, because she can't get a rise out of my father, and I don't like being treated like a doormat. Or maybe that's just me.

Either way, I am the kind of person who won't be drawn into an argument unless I know I'm right, so I suppose I am one of these kinds of people. I WILL prove these people wrong, or I just won't talk to them. I see it as fighting fire with fire; the only way to take on someone that ignorant is to give them a taste of their own medicine. I suppose the only real difference between me and them is that I do it in response to their idiocy (which is childish and no real excuse for my behaviour, but it's the only thing they understand sometimes) and that I tend to keep my opinions in the confines of my own mind, or at least acknowledge that they might not be shared by everyone. A little humility never hurt anyone, but I'd say the fundamental attitude is the same. Make of that what you will.

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My mom. And my dad. It's great at home. :(

Because neither of them will ever admit they're wrong about anything, it gets pretty tiring. Spare you the details of the more serious arguments at home, but one really stupid example was like a week or two ago - they literally had a 10 minute argument about who's watch had the correct time and even after my dad turned on the TV to prove that his watch was on the right minute, the argument continued until my dad left for work.
Same here =(

I really wish they'd stop....
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As long as it's me they're talking to, they're gonna do it. I'm pretty used to it though.

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My dad always thinks he's right. It's really annoying when he tries to argue with me on topics I know more about than he does. He has a tendency to become louder and louder the longer an argument progresses too, and it's incredibly annoying to deal with. Sometimes he even accuses me of doing things I didn't actually do, and when that happens I'll sometimes laugh.

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QFT.

The more you try to argue your points just for the sake of arguing, the more you yourself take on the "stubborn know-it-all" role.

You have to sit back and really think about the situation. Does this person actually know what he/she is talking about? Or is this person just incredibly passionate about the subject at hand (and is guided by emotion)? Do you yourself actually know the topic inside and out? Are you 100% sure each and every word you're choosing is 100% irrefutable fact? Can you prove it on the spot to put an end to the debate?

There are other factors, too. But like what's mentioned, you have to be the judge of the situation lest you become exactly who you're ranting against.

If the party you're arguing against still won't accept despite what you've brought to the table, then good for you. You can walk away knowing they'll be under a rock for a while longer.
The point I was making was that you can argue with a person ill your face turns blue but that doesn't mean they will agree with you. It can be on anything. A lot of times it is far better to give them something to consider than to forcefully prove them wrong.
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Yep. One in particular is my mom. She'll swear up and down she's right about something until you agree. Then of course, you have proof she's wrong and she claims she actually knew it. It drives me and my dad crazy. It's worse when you have to live with it everyday. :c

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le checklist:

stubborn ✓

knows-it-all ✓

the world revolves around me ✓

this is my sort of topic ✓

tho getting to say "told you so" gets old after a while I have to say.

the know-it-alls you're on about are idiots however. what kind of person makes an argument without proper conclusive evidence? fools. I tend to not really argue with stubborn fools. ;D when it comes to these people, don't give them the satisfaction of an argument. troll them. it's great.
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My mom is like this to a T. She refuses to believe that she's wrong about anything, even if she is; if she wrongfully accuses me of doing something I didn't do (which is often), no amount of proof otherwise will make her change her mind. And whenever someone does manage to prove her wrong somehow, she's too proud to apologize. My brother and I have long figured out that reasoning with her is impossible, though, so we just don't bother anymore. I don't like to argue as it is, so as fed up with people like this as I can get, I try to just be patient and let them slide.
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I guess it also depends on how you were raised.

For example, I come from a relatively traditional Asian family (though both my immigrant parents are very well assimilated into American culture). Since childhood it was all about "respecting your elders," "respecting your parents," "respecting your teachers," "respect respect respect." Obviously, it won't always be that way, especially well over a couple decades. But childhood lessons always stuck with me so even if I bump into family members who end up being stubborn, all it really takes for me is a quick nod, thinking, "Yeah, you're completely ignorant, but I can't help you anymore," smile and be on my way.

I get some people are unable to take that approach, though. Depends on your personality, the environment you grew up in (or in some cases, still growing up in), and the environment you're currently living in.

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Whilst I get along with my mother and all that, have join the "jump on your family" train here because this sounds like her a bit. Thankfully she's actually intelligent but when we argue she absolutely cannot be wrong, even when at least half the time she is.

That's just at home though, I know plenty of people who are a lot worse. One lady in particularly is so far up herself that she makes her granddaughter believe the crap she spews is actual facts. The rest of us then have to spend however long not just explaining why certain information is wrong, but that age does not always equal wisdom.
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Have you ever come across someone who almost always has to disagree with what you say and will continuously believe they are correct? They'll even think they are correct when you prove them wrong and correct them with proper proof. At that point I just stop talking to that kind of person but it truly bothers me that people can be so close minded or full of themselves.
I think the exact same way as you do. To make matters worse, I have a step-brother that is a stubborn know-it-all type of person. He believed Star Fox started as an arcade game. I don't even know where people get this stuff sometimes.
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My mom. And my dad. It's great at home. :(

Because neither of them will ever admit they're wrong about anything, it gets pretty tiring. Spare you the details of the more serious arguments at home, but one really stupid example was like a week or two ago - they literally had a 10 minute argument about who's watch had the correct time and even after my dad turned on the TV to prove that his watch was on the right minute, the argument continued until my dad left for work.
That's my father, but the ones that he argues the most is either my stepmom or me.Nowadays, when my father starts, I just go flat silent and everyone around me scared when I do that. {XD}


My dad always thinks he's right. It's really annoying when he tries to argue with me on topics I know more about than he does. He has a tendency to become louder and louder the longer an argument progresses too, and it's incredibly annoying to deal with. Sometimes he even accuses me of doing things I didn't actually do, and when that happens I'll sometimes laugh.


I swear you are describing my own father! {XD}


I HATE THOSE PEOPLE! They're so annoying and after a while I have to just avoid them the best I can. Too bad the "know-it-alls" (at least they think they are) are all at my school, so it's hard to actually get away from them.
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I knew a woman. Absolute worst person I had ever met. And she just so happened to be a freaking know-it-all. And not a very smart one. You try to explain how something she was wrong about (and she was wrong about a lot of things), she would still insist that she was right. And it wasn't even 'facts'. No, it was often her own opinions. I'd go into some examples, but just the mere thought of this... individual makes me absolutely enraged. That was just how horrible she was.