Game Over! Rocket's Investigation [Epilogue] Page 33

Started by Lycanthropy November 27th, 2015 12:30 PM
  • 86449 views
  • 2052 replies

Salzorrah

grassium Z

Age 25
Female
Floaroma Town, Sinnoh
Seen May 14th, 2022
Posted May 5th, 2022
6,376 posts
12.4 Years
thats just me being stupid, dont hold a ****in grudge jonbymustbang
Flying the flag for Ireland in the 2021 PokéCommunity Eurovision Event!


Eurovision Event 2021

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
I don't trust Bact at all, and the constant attempts to make Weiss and Syn look evil is not helping. He uses 'anti-town' as a justification because they made generalizations of people in the game not playing well. I'd also like to point out that Syn has viewed the thread and not said a single word, which I find quite odd considering he is a very vocal player that would respond to bact's snide and fairly unlogical comment.

Also, since we're talking about recruits, what pokemon move would recruit someone?

Also I can definitely confirm attacking Bact dealt 4 damage to me, and he could still be a Sharpedo, since we don't entirely know that he's a ferrothorn just because of rough skin/iron barbs.

Nimsy

Jackal The Ripper

Age 26
Female
Right behind you
Seen November 18th, 2016
Posted November 13th, 2016
1,415 posts
9.8 Years
We've all been killed at least once being innocent.
And no one's going to just "take your word" for it.

If you keep acting like this, I think you should figure out if mafia is the game for you.

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
Can someone make a list of the claims? PLEASE
why don't you do it? ;)

txteclipse

The Last

Age 32
Riverside
Seen March 23rd, 2023
Posted November 2nd, 2016
2,322 posts
15.7 Years
Looks like someone might have used a one-time heal on desinishon? The heal is pink though instead of green so that's kind of weird.

EDIT: I'll crunch numbers tomorrow and see how much damage he took previously. Pretty sure it was at least 66 though.

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
I'd like to point out that Syn liked my post, so he IS WATCHING THE THREAD AND READING but hasn't posted?

Maybe someone silenced him? I think that a sleep-inducing move could function as something like that

Silencing someone who's been called anti-town and scum makes for a very easy lynch....

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
Come on Doofy, i thought you knew me. I don't have internet, i tether my phone in my computer. It would take me an hour to look back all of those pages while it would take 5 or 10 minutes to anyone with a decent internet connection.
I had no clue

Candy

Age 26
Female
In OJ Land
Seen 1 Week Ago
Posted August 22nd, 2020
3,813 posts
14.3 Years
So I think it likely that the pokémon with the poison ability is one of Milotic, Cheshire Cat and txteclipse, who replaced an inactive at the start of Day 3.
I sincerely love the fact that you missed the damn obvious hint on my Pokemon species that I gave out on either Day 3 or 4.

Really tho, I applaud you.
_
Zhuang Zi
Crash Fever

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
i'm starting to suspect about Golgari blatant defense towards Weiss and Syn. As he said himself, would be an easy lynch to silence someone who's been called anti-town, but it would also be a good tactic to silence that person and pointing that out, everyone would be reluctanct to lynch said person.
Ah yes, Johnny provides the easy read.

Your complete trust in Bact/Chesire Cat (who is not a confirmed inno tyvm) is very close in relation to your complete trust in your mafia partner Nimsy from R&M. You do not even consider the possibility that Bact is scum but instead provide niche reverse psychology tactics thinking that I would make a play so unnecessarily elaborate just to incriminate a random player. Now you have me thinking that not only do you not know how to mix up your playstyle - or at least make it look like you're thinking in a more rational sense, but also have me thinking that you're scum.

Two can play that niche tactic game. I'm thinking that you are mafia partners with Bact and when the Rockets decided to silence Syndrome you'd have this argument ready so you could incriminate one of the attentive players that called out Syndrome's silence and related it to Bact's dead-set goal on killing Syndrome.

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
What I find 'anti-town' about them is not specifically because they threw insults (everyone does, it's mafia) and pointed out possible faults in our reasoning, but because they blatantly distracted the town and drew suspicions. Additionally, they refused to elaborate when pursued, causing more distraction and pointless conversation. This is extremely suspicious imo.

Assuming for a moment that Syn and/or Weiss is a baddie, I'd say Doof was sided with them/him. The reason being they were in fact being extremely and noticeably anti-town, yet Doof still acts like I'm the one being snide and illogical.
Not only did you forget to provide me with a pokemon move that could possibly be used as a recruiting action, but you forget that Weiss has been testing me and providing small tidbits here or there that could potentially incriminate me as mafia if acted upon further, such as commenting about how not sharing my attack stat helps the mafia more than the innos and I was using irrational logic, or attacking me.

In a game with limited HP, each mafia member will want as much HP as possible, making it an extremely risky and bad move to attack another member - especially for as much as 7 damage, which is a considerable amount to hit someone with.

If you knew how I played as mafia, or even tried to understand how I played, then you would know that I never make such dumb risks just to 'look inno'. EDIT: Especially if the plays involve sacrificing me, the only time I ever did such a thing was in Grandmafia, and I did that simply because the game was lacking action and I felt the need to spice it up a bit. Silencing someone who can turn a lynch as well as Syndrome would be a silly play if Syn was mafia.

Sonata

Don't let me disappear

Age 27
Male
Indiana
Seen 10 Hours Ago
Posted March 25th, 2023
13,619 posts
10.2 Years
jesus just attack each other and get it over with.

as for me I'll [attack] universe

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
I'll let Johnny elaborate on why he seems to agree on most everything I say, but for now I'd like to state that I'd never be stupid enough to silence Syn after throwing a blast seed at him and expressing my fos. That is idiotic. If I was planning on silencing Syn, I would've kept quiet and avoided using my blast seed.
Just as idiotic as expecting me to side with someone so obviously if I were mafia?

Now that you mention it, I never would've claimed Ferrothorn in the first place if I was a Rocket. If you haven't noticed, I play quietly as a mafioso, not vocally.
First of all, you didn't even claim Ferro until someone guessed it, so you could very easily not be ferrothorn and be something else like Garchomp or Sharpedo for fear that somehow someone else was one of the other. Second of all, I have noticed, and was one of the first people to publicly express how you play as mafia, so if everyone has your playstyle figured out, why wouldn't you do your best to change it then use it as an excuse to express your innocence? IMO using a different playstyle then saying 'uh but I'm not playing how I did as mafia in this game this game this game' is NOT a good argument at all.


...why would I provide you with a move? It was just an idea that popped into my head. I could've elaborated on it, I guess? It wasn't really relevant what move could've been used at the time, and isn't now.
It is, though. What's the point of even speculating something if you don't elaborate on it? Providing a move could lead us to further discussion and potentially turn a lynch towards Weiss and Syn. I'm trying to figure out if a recruitment is possible, and without a move, there isn't a way it would be possible. Posting an idea then doing nothing with it when asked to elaborate is a classic example of something that shouldn't even be posted, perhaps listen to Weiss next time?

Weiss' sudden anti-town behavior when he was previously rather helpful indicated that he may have been recruited. There isn't more to it. The only thing I have against you is how much you act like Weiss and Syn's behavior was completely normal when it really, really didn't seem like it. You are becoming increasingly hostile and accusatory every time I mention them. What does that mean?
Weiss being rude is completely normal if you've even played a game with him that he's tried in. Look at Gotham, look at GAU, look at Fangirl, and tell me Weiss being rude isn't a trend. The reason there was 'sudden anti-town behavior' is because Weiss usually only brings discussion to the table when accused or when he decides he has enough information to share, and I'm quite sure someone asked someone else to provide their opinion on if Weiss was suss or not. Also, I'm not being hostile, I'm actually disagreeing with something that I truly believe is wrong, sue me for it and I'll have my lawyers ignore you because it's mafia and that's how mafia is played. -3-

Whenever I push the blame onto Syn and Weiss, you push it onto me.
Tell me this, user Chesire Cat. If someone repeatedly accuses someone you think is inno, will you not point your finger of suspicion in their direction?

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
I was expecting you to do this :) in your response to bact, you're saying how risky would it be for a mafia to attack one of their own to look innocent, and yet, you seem to forget that i was bandwagoned by both Draskk and KetsuekiR who both turn out to be Rockets. I'm not gonna let you throw the Fos on me. Again, wrong, nimsy and i weren't partners in R&M, i was snowball, a third party role, and she was mafia. I have never said that i trusted Bact, but he seems to be in the same track with me, and i stand still with my position about Weiss and Syn, who you seem to be defending at all costs with excusses like: Andy is a late-gamer, a good player, but no strong points about their innocence, even when they have done nothing but being totally anti-town like Bact said, and distracting us with ambiguous responses, reluctanct to cooperate with the town.
You're right, I was thinking of why Nimsy said that she started agreeing with you and being active and for some reason it made me think you were her mafia partner, my bad :P

Also, you don't need to blatantly say you trust someone in order to show that you're agreeing with them and not thinking suspiciously of them. My strong points about their innocence is that I know how to read players. Lynch both if you want, I invited you to do so last phase. Just know that when "Syndrome is an explorer" and "Ice Goddess is an explorer" pop up, I'll be there saying I told you so.

Did I ever mention how the phrase anti-town is annoying and doesn't make sense at all? You're obviously not calling them scum but the way it's worded and used makes it sound like you're trying to lynch a town member simply because they aren't being productive.

Sopheria

響け〜 響け!

深き海の彼方
Seen July 19th, 2022
Posted December 17th, 2017
4,904 posts
9.5 Years
I think we've had that Michael Jackson popcorn gif posted 3 times so far. Gosh what a game it has been.

I'm just going to roll with Nimsy's reasoning here and [attack] Wiicked. I'm still poisoned too, so there's also that ;w;
Paired with Dragon and Koakuma

Klippy

L E G E N D of

Age 31
Male
Disneyland
Seen December 4th, 2022
Posted February 19th, 2022
16,371 posts
17.4 Years
So basically the scenario we have here is Golgari/Syndrome/Ice Goddess vs. Cheshire Cat/JohnnyMustang, in a sense.

Why don't we just kill them all and let Arceus sort 'em out? Joking, but there's some clear lines getting drawn among these guys. Syn and Weiss have not spoken this phase, either meaning silenced or a plot. Not sure really though. Could go either way.

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
I don't think Weiss is online, so we can't really assume he's been silenced or anything of the sort yet. Syn however, is probably silenced.

Ullion

Simic Synthesis

Male
Canada
Seen 2 Days Ago
Posted 2 Weeks Ago
4,703 posts
16.9 Years
So, I've mentioned everything about my role in this game previously; but since I'm being asked about I'll list everything out again. :)

I am Ariados, a Poison/Bug type. My day attack is Constrict (1 damage) and my night attack is Night Shade (9 damage). As far as I know, I outted my own night ability on day 2, to clear up the question as to where a single-source of 9 damage was coming from each night. As far as I know, I haven't tried to hide any of this information.

Since my night action is an actual attack (night shade), I do not possess the ability to poison any players (by visiting them or by being visited). Nor can I do anything else other than attack at both day and night times.

My allegiance started (and as of this day phase, still is) with the explorers.

As for why Sonata got poisoned when he checked me? It must have been coincidence? Obviously there is no way to prove I can't do both night shade and some poison-inducing attack at night, I would just have to hope you all understand that it would be silly for a a single role to have both actions. And as for getting no result from investigating me? I'm not quite sure on that either, there may be a role-blocker amongst the mafia? I wouldn't find that too farfetch'd (hehe), afterall it is a common mafia role, is it not?

If you wish, I can also go back in my PM storage and post all my night-time targets for Night Shade?

The only other thing to have happened around me was that I had received a Lum Berry on this night. Again, thank you to whomever had given it to me. :)

So I believe I have shared as much as I can about who/what I am and have I have done/received at night. If there is something I have missed and not mentioned, or you're wanting to know more of - then feel free to ask. o.o


edit: I would like Cheshire to do a full-reveal (Pokemon, moves, etc.) although he could just as easily lie at this point anyways. But I agree with Klippy saying that there is a definite line drawn between those two parties. And to be quite frank, I don't trust either side too much (not saying I think they're inno or not, I just don't feel inclined to believe what they say).

Sonata

Don't let me disappear

Age 27
Male
Indiana
Seen 10 Hours Ago
Posted March 25th, 2023
13,619 posts
10.2 Years
I believe bact to be the more suspect of the two. If we kill him and find that he's inno then that we'll hit doof the next time.

Bidoof FTW

→ Bidoof is Pretty Rad

Age 23
Male
the States
Seen April 4th, 2021
Posted October 16th, 2019
3,547 posts
9.5 Years
Syn guessed my role 5 seconds after I posted I did damage. If I had really wanted to fake my role I would've said, "No actually I'm Druddigon" or something along those lines to avoid this conflict later on.
I want to say something about this but idk yet

Sounds like someone else I know... Your point is entirely hypocritical.
First of all, 'if you read more closely you would understand' that I am not saying I played a certain way as mafia and am not playing that way now, therefore I am inno. I'm saying I'm not going to EVER make an idiotic play such as risking damage in a HP based game to look inno, because honestly anyone that does that is making a dumb play, and I try to avoid making as few dumb plays as possible.



You're asking for details so stupidly specific that it seems obvious to me you're trying to distract the town, or make my point seem less valid. There are many, many moves and I'm sure at least one of them fits the bill, but that's not relevant. If you care so much, research it yourself. You even go so far to say I shouldn't have even posted my theory? My my, you really are sided with Syn and Weiss.
It isn't as 'stupidly' specific as you think. Every single operation in this game involves either an item or move. So, if there was a recruiting action, it would have to be a move or item that can be related to such.

Example: Block = roleblock

So, if we can't find a move or item that relates to recruiting (the reason I don't do it myself is because I don't think that there is a recruiting action in this game), then there can't be a recruiting action. And yes I am siding with Syn and Weiss because I think they're inno... I don't know why you think that's something to act weird about with the 'my, my' for dramatic effect... And I'm saying you shouldn't post an idea if you're going to abandon it when someone asks you to elaborate on how such idea could be possible because that is doing exactly what you're accusing me, weiss, and syn of doing, distracting the town. Posting random ideas and doing nothing with it is a waste of everyone's time, which according to you wasting inno's time is 'anti-town'.



If you read my posts more closely, you would see that I said that being rude is not my issue. My issue is that Syn and Weiss (the latter previously acting townsided, as you so kindly pointed out) made a scene for no given reason, and then refused to bring anything new to the table, answer questions, or elaborate points. This caused conversation to drag on pointlessly. Yet you seem to ignore this and act like this is a completely normal and appropriate play?
We have ~48 hours in a day phase I think we can spare a couple mukposts bact. Also, not everyone has a role that's safer to keep revealed then not reveal. Just because someone asks doesn't mean they're forced to tell, especially if it's safer for them to not tell.


There is a distinct difference between pointing a finger at someone, explaining why their point is flawed, and blatantly disregarding their point (or even going so far as to invalidate their point because it didn't have tiny details.) Give me some better reasons, please.

Elaborate.
...lol!