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Just under two months for us Europeans.

Something I do hope is that some of the new Pokemon are held off until the games release. I love the aspect of uncovering brand new Pokemon in game rather than knowing the full lineup beforehand. It seems like they have revealed a lot up to this stage, and as great as that is, it would also be nice to have a few surprises when actually playing.
Personally I enjoy the few days before release when people are starting to get their hands on the game and they start posting in-game pictures of the unrevealed Pokemon.

I remember during the period where people were first getting their hands on X & Y I was just refreshing a NeoGaf thread over and over because they were regularly posting new pictures of the new Pokemon. It was exciting since there was still mystery over how many Pokemon we'd get or what Pokemon would pop up. (I remember Klefki showing up and everybody freaking out over it :P)

It's why I'm really hoping the demo doesn't have the full game in it because then we'll have the amount of new Pokemon spoiled for us (and their names)....there won't be the same excitement and mystery I think if we're just ticking off a Pokemon checklist when the games come out. :(
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Personally I enjoy the few days before release when people are starting to get their hands on the game and they start posting in-game pictures of the unrevealed Pokemon.
Yeah I really like that period as well, everything is so feverishly exciting haha. But I definitely agree with Blue, I hope there are lots of unrevealed Pokémon by the time the game comes out so things are more exciting :D

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It's why I'm really hoping the demo doesn't have the full game in it because then we'll have the amount of new Pokemon spoiled for us (and their names)....there won't be the same excitement and mystery I think if we're just ticking off a Pokemon checklist when the games come out. :(
Normally the demos are quite restricted in what they show, so it should be fine (hopefully)
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I will probably get the game a day before the release by mail which happen every time from Amazon when it's not a release on Monday.
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Hey guys, before I say what I am going to, I know that we have seen Eevee's Dex Entry. I know that. And I think this rumor is just wishful thanking for some, but I found it interesting even though I don't necessarily believe in it. But it is fun to bring stuff up like this.

I read a new article to day about Eevee having a new evolution hinted. Almost immediately I was like, yeah ok this should be fun to read, however, I found it interesting.

During Eevee's Z-Move, little bubbles for around the edge of the name. Indicating each Eevee Evolution. We have Red, Blue, Yellow, Ice Blue, Green, Purple, Blackish, and Pink. However, there was a 9th bubble. Grey. The article didn't seem to remember that Normal is also a greyish color. That is why I don't really believe it is a hint to another Eeveelution. But it was interesting to point out.

However, it does bring up the question that I have been asking a while. And although I doubt they will do it again, do you guys believe that there will be a group of baby pokemon or evolutions that we will not learn about until after the main storyline and we unlock the National Dex, similar to how we had no idea about a large amount of Sinnoh Pokemon until after the main storyline.
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Hey guys, before I say what I am going to, I know that we have seen Eevee's Dex Entry. I know that. And I think this rumor is just wishful thanking for some, but I found it interesting even though I don't necessarily believe in it. But it is fun to bring stuff up like this.

I read a new article to day about Eevee having a new evolution hinted. Almost immediately I was like, yeah ok this should be fun to read, however, I found it interesting.

During Eevee's Z-Move, little bubbles for around the edge of the name. Indicating each Eevee Evolution. We have Red, Blue, Yellow, Ice Blue, Green, Purple, Blackish, and Pink. However, there was a 9th bubble. Grey. The article didn't seem to remember that Normal is also a greyish color. That is why I don't really believe it is a hint to another Eeveelution. But it was interesting to point out.

However, it does bring up the question that I have been asking a while. And although I doubt they will do it again, do you guys believe that there will be a group of baby pokemon or evolutions that we will not learn about until after the main storyline and we unlock the National Dex, similar to how we had no idea about a large amount of Sinnoh Pokemon until after the main storyline.

I don't know.. I'd like a large dex giving us some past evolutions, but I don't think it will happen. Love to be wrong though. It be cool to have a lot to look forward to finding after beating the game.
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Eevee evolution isn't happening. The Z-move only showed it's existing evolutions, and way back when the Eevee dex entry only showed evolutionary spots for it's current evolutions.

Unless they edited out the extra space for the image to keep it hidden, or there's like an "upgraded" pokedex that doesn't show further evolutions until you unlock it, it's not going to happen.

There's also no need for another Eeveelution IMO. They've basically died off now and the only reason it got one in Gen 6 was to promote fairy type. There's no new type this gen so I doubt it's going to happen.

I also don't think it's going to happen since we've got no cross-gen evolutions revealed so far. If they were going to do them, they would've showed at least one off by now.
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I honestly thought baby Pokemon were forgotten about entirely by Game Freak. Either that, or they don't seem to have the interest to go down the route of creating baby Pokemon for another reason.
I sometimes seem to forget bay Pokemon as well, but I think like you said, they may not have the interest to further invest in them.
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But what else could it be and why would the mention it at the same time as Rockruff?
Whatever Ash-Greninja is related to Z Power.
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I also doubt that we'll get cross-gen evolutions. I hope that Gen VIII has a ton to make up for 3 Gens with only one (V-VII (if we aren't getting in SM))!
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I'd really like some cross-gen evolutions at this stage. We've had another three generations since the first batch were released and I am think of a handful of Pokemon that could benefit from one or two.
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I really do not want the Chinese Leak of Litten evolution to be true.
Because it look way too Uncool and the idea of Flaming Belt is not that exciting.
All Fully evolve Fire Starter has flame as a part of their design .
Charizard has Flaming tail
Typhlosion has igniting back
Blaziken has igniting arm
Infernape has flaming head
Emboar has Flaming bear
Delphox has flaming broom
So Litten evolution should have Flaming mane or fur! That much better then Flaming belt.
Litten description even talks about his fur being flammable So it make sense for him to flaming mane or fur.
Imagine Litten with body like Zoroark or Meicrakmon.
Now imagine It having a "Flaming ruff" on its upper body , pointed at the shoulders from which its arms extend.
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I'd really like some cross-gen evolutions at this stage. We've had another three generations since the first batch were released and I am think of a handful of Pokemon that could benefit from one or two.
Any specific Pokemon that you think need them?
I honestly think most of the previous gens are complete, evolution wise, none of them really look at all that incomplete (except maybe Basculin).

I just want to see cross gen evos because I think they're cool, but I doubt we'll get any again since they seem to be working on making Pokemon more "complete" in their debut generations, which is unfortunate IMO.
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I think with Alolan forms present in this game, they won't give us cross-gen (pre-)evolutions. They're showcasing Alolan forms a lot and I think any Pokémon that could benefit from another evolution could just be given an Alolan form to add to the hype around that (though then again, it's possible that only Kanto Pokémon will get Alolan forms).
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Any specific Pokemon that you think need them?
I honestly think most of the previous gens are complete, evolution wise, none of them really look at all that incomplete (except maybe Basculin).
Maractus, Chatot, Pachirisu, Dunsparce, Corsola, Luvdisc, Carbink and an evolution for Male Combee. They're just my personal requests but I definitely feel like it would be good to have another batch of cross-gen evos. We probably won't get any for this gen, but we've had over 300 new Pokemon since the last lot, some of which could do with an upgrade imo.
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Maractus, Chatot, Pachirisu, Dunsparce, Corsola, Luvdisc, Carbink and an evolution for Male Combee. They're just my personal requests but I definitely feel like it would be good to have another batch of cross-gen evos. We probably won't get any for this gen, but we've had over 300 new Pokemon since the last lot, some of which could do with an upgrade imo.
Eh, Carbink is fine for me though. If anything Diancie is related to Carbink in a way, and Carbink BST is 500, in which only pre-evo for Carbink makes sense, but I can't think of any ideas to shrink Carbink anymore

Some other thoughts: Kangaskhan (nuff said), Sigilyph, Jynx, Delcatty (or give it a mega for that 380 BST bullmuk :( )
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Maractus, Chatot, Pachirisu, Dunsparce, Corsola, Luvdisc, Carbink and an evolution for Male Combee. They're just my personal requests but I definitely feel like it would be good to have another batch of cross-gen evos. We probably won't get any for this gen, but we've had over 300 new Pokemon since the last lot, some of which could do with an upgrade imo.
I'm also on board for some gen II, III, IV, V, and VI pandering now.
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But we also don't want to decrease the population of standalone Pokémon in the roster. They matter just as much as Pokémon with evolutionary lines.
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Like Angie, I'm likely assuming no cross-gen relatives to older Pokemon. Not counting Sylveon last generation (whose purpose was to showcase Fairy-type which was a new feature of 6th Gen) we have had no cross-gen relatives since 4th Gen, so the chances of it returning are extremely slim since 4th Gen's debut was 10 years ago now.
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80%?

There were 100 new Pokemon introduced in Gen II. Of those 100, 20 already belong to a three stage family, 20 x 3 = 60, thus that excludes 60 Pokemon from Gen II to get an evolution (meaning only 40% can benefit from evolutions, not 80%). Factor in Legendary Pokemon (6), Eeveelutions (2), Pokemon which received Megas (4 - not including those already part of 3 stage evolutinary lines), and that brings the total up to 72. Meaning only 28% of Pokemon from Gen II can "benefit" from an evoltuion, as 72% of them are near impossible to get one. Add in Unown, a Pokemon who is very unlikely to get an evolution, and that brings it up to 73, thus only 27% of Gen II Pokemon are able to "benefit" from an evolution, ant not 80% as you said :P

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Maractus, Chatot, Pachirisu, Dunsparce, Corsola, Luvdisc, Carbink and an evolution for Male Combee. They're just my personal requests but I definitely feel like it would be good to have another batch of cross-gen evos. We probably won't get any for this gen, but we've had over 300 new Pokemon since the last lot, some of which could do with an upgrade imo.
IMO I don't think Chatot, Pachi, Dunsparce, or Carbink need them. But I agree with the others. Still, I think they're unlikely to happen, as unfortunate as that may be.
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you do know I intentionally exaggerated to make a point, and that I'm completely aware of these things that you mentioned, right? You took it quite literally. :P

The point was, a decent chunk of Gen II would very much appreciate a cross-gen evolution of some sort. That's just about it.
Yes, which was why I added the quite apparent joking :P face on the end of my pots?
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Too bad that Jynx didn't got an evolution with Electabuzz and Magmar, same for Mr. Mime, it's like both got left out after they got their babies over Electabuzz and Magmar. Even Rhyhorn got an Evolution similar to Electabuzz and Magmar.
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Here's a leak that I would really like to be true, but alas..

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>Magikarp boat will take you to the Kanto resort where you can battle Kanto NPCs that show there randomly: Red, Blue, Leaf, Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika, Koga, Janine, Sabrina, Blaine, Giovanni, Lorelei, Koga, Agatha, Lance. Oak cant be battled but he will give you one Kanto starter

>Steelix submarine will take you to the Johto resort. There you can battle: Ethan, Lyra, Silver, Eusine, Falkner, Bugsy, Whitney, Morty, Chuck, Jasmine, Pryce, Clair, Will, Karen, Archer. Elm will give you one Johto starter

>Huntail ferry will take you to the Hoenn resort. NPCs: Brendan, May, Wally, Roxanne, Brawly, Wattson, Flannery, Norman, Winona, Tate, Liza, Juan, Wallace, Sidney, Phoebe, Glacia, Drake, Steven, Lisia, Aarune, Maxie and Archie. Birch will give you one Hoenn starter

>Whiscash ferry will take you to the Sinnoh resort. Lucas, Dawn, Barry, Roark, Gardenia, Fantina, Maylene, Wake, Byron, Candice, Volner, Aaron, Bertha, Flint, Lucian, Cynthia, Cyrus, Cheryl, Mira, Riley, Buck, Marley. Rowan gives you one Sinnoh starter

>Wailord liner will take you to the Unova resort which unlike others has two islands connected by a bridge. Black island NPCs: Hilbert, Hilda, Cheren, Chili, Cress, Cilan, Lenora, Burgh, Elesa, Clay, Shauntal, Grimsley, Alder, N
White island NPCs: Nate, Rosa, Bianca, Hugh, Roxie, Skyla, Brycen, Drayden, Marlon, Caitlin, Marshall, Iris, Zinzolin, Ghetsis. Juniper and her father stand on the bridge and they'll give you one Unova starter

>Kalos doesnt have a resort. Instead after collecting 50% Zygarde cells Sina and Dexio will take you with to the Southern Kalos island with few new towns, forrest and a cave where Zygarde 50% will appear. After capturing it NPCs will appear in Sunnete city in the same manner as with the resorts: Calem, Serena, Trevor, Tierno, Shauna, Viola, Grant, Korrina, Ramos, Clemont, Valerie, Olympia, Wulfrick, Malva, Wikstrom, Siebold, Drasna, Diantha, Lysandre, AZ and occasionally Sina and Dexio. Sycamore will give you one Kalos starter


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^ Then you better hope Game Freak gives Litten a split Su/Mo evo or something cause otherwise I'm fairly sure that leak is going to be true.
What will be the point if Ash ends up with the ugly one ???

Honestly , I believe Rowlet Evo to be different then any owl.
Just like Torchic didn't has to be a chicken despite being based on a Chick and we already have an Owl as big as Charizard .
I hoping for Rowlet evo to get more humanoid form compare to that lack , Specially a design that allow him to turn his head 360o degree .
Maybe, Rowlet evo should be based on a priest since Owl represents wisdom.
Something like Chronomon Holy mode --
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Here's a leak that I would really like to be true, but alas..

Spoiler:
>Magikarp boat will take you to the Kanto resort where you can battle Kanto NPCs that show there randomly: Red, Blue, Leaf, Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika, Koga, Janine, Sabrina, Blaine, Giovanni, Lorelei, Koga, Agatha, Lance. Oak cant be battled but he will give you one Kanto starter

>Steelix submarine will take you to the Johto resort. There you can battle: Ethan, Lyra, Silver, Eusine, Falkner, Bugsy, Whitney, Morty, Chuck, Jasmine, Pryce, Clair, Will, Karen, Archer. Elm will give you one Johto starter

>Huntail ferry will take you to the Hoenn resort. NPCs: Brendan, May, Wally, Roxanne, Brawly, Wattson, Flannery, Norman, Winona, Tate, Liza, Juan, Wallace, Sidney, Phoebe, Glacia, Drake, Steven, Lisia, Aarune, Maxie and Archie. Birch will give you one Hoenn starter

>Whiscash ferry will take you to the Sinnoh resort. Lucas, Dawn, Barry, Roark, Gardenia, Fantina, Maylene, Wake, Byron, Candice, Volner, Aaron, Bertha, Flint, Lucian, Cynthia, Cyrus, Cheryl, Mira, Riley, Buck, Marley. Rowan gives you one Sinnoh starter

>Wailord liner will take you to the Unova resort which unlike others has two islands connected by a bridge. Black island NPCs: Hilbert, Hilda, Cheren, Chili, Cress, Cilan, Lenora, Burgh, Elesa, Clay, Shauntal, Grimsley, Alder, N
White island NPCs: Nate, Rosa, Bianca, Hugh, Roxie, Skyla, Brycen, Drayden, Marlon, Caitlin, Marshall, Iris, Zinzolin, Ghetsis. Juniper and her father stand on the bridge and they'll give you one Unova starter

>Kalos doesnt have a resort. Instead after collecting 50% Zygarde cells Sina and Dexio will take you with to the Southern Kalos island with few new towns, forrest and a cave where Zygarde 50% will appear. After capturing it NPCs will appear in Sunnete city in the same manner as with the resorts: Calem, Serena, Trevor, Tierno, Shauna, Viola, Grant, Korrina, Ramos, Clemont, Valerie, Olympia, Wulfrick, Malva, Wikstrom, Siebold, Drasna, Diantha, Lysandre, AZ and occasionally Sina and Dexio. Sycamore will give you one Kalos starter


Source - http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/28780707/magikarp-boat-will-take-you-to-the-kanto-resort
It seems really awkward to me how it starts off with Pokemon bringing you to their respective regions but then it ends up with a Whiscash taking you to Sinnoh and a Wailord (why on earth a Wailord?) taking you to Unova.

You'd think Lumineon and Basculin boats would be more appropriate. (or at least some kind of 4th/5th gen Pokemon...it's not like the 5th generation has a lack of Pokemon to choose from)
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I agree with Sabrewulf. It does look nonsensical, so it definitely makes me doubt this rumor.
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