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I have no class Tuesday, so I'm good. However, I have no idea what time will it be released: 6 AM or 7 AM?
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I have no class Tuesday, so I'm good. However, I have no idea what time will it be released: 6 AM or 7 AM?
6am for PDT and 9am for EDT as per. I'll be in class when he trailer is released so I'll have to catch up later. D:
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Don't want to see the starters next stages at all, so I'll probably avoid leaks from here on out.

Only a month and a half or so to go so not long now.
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So... If we assume the rumor about the starters having two final forms is true, then that means the final evolutions should be shown before the release, right? I mean, it wouldn't make sense not to reveal such an important difference between Sun and Moon from a marketing standpoint.

I don't want to get my hopes up too much, but with that in mind, they might reveal the middle evolutions on the 4th and leave the final forms for CoroCoro.
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When r we getting more news?
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It's a good thing I don't work Tuesday, so I'll have some fresh news to wake up to and I'll have the whole day to get out my hype. Hoping for starter evolutions as well as maybe a confirmation of the demo. Maybe they can show us what this "building" thing is too or maybe some Battle Royal/Z-Move stuff.
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So... If we assume the rumor about the starters having two final forms is true, then that means the final evolutions should be shown before the release, right? I mean, it wouldn't make sense not to reveal such an important difference between Sun and Moon from a marketing standpoint.

I don't want to get my hopes up too much, but with that in mind, they might reveal the middle evolutions on the 4th and leave the final forms for CoroCoro.
Yeah agreed, they would need to reveal this difference before release because it would be great for marketing the games. That said I don't think they'll reveal the final forms in this month's CoroCoro, but I'm thinking if there are two forms, they might reveal the silhouettes of the final forms in this month's CoroCoro. Still allows them to market the fact that there are different evolutions, while also keeping that one last bit of information for November.
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Yeah agreed, they would need to reveal this difference before release because it would be great for marketing the games. That said I don't think they'll reveal the final forms in this month's CoroCoro, but I'm thinking if there are two forms, they might reveal the silhouettes of the final forms in this month's CoroCoro. Still allows them to market the fact that there are different evolutions, while also keeping that one last bit of information for November.
That would be sweet, as those of us who seen the leak (assuming their real) can pick the game they come from if we want, and if Litten has a quad-pedal evolution then people who prefer that can pick the right game.
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^ Pretty sure they just used the scene with Morelull against Mudsbray and replaced it with Ekans. A cool concept but definitely fake.
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All these fake Alolan forms looks so cool. I really hope we get to see a really neat one tomorrow.

Surprised there aren't more text leaks for it though.
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From 4chan:

Spoiler:
Wild Togedemaru has a chance of holding a Silver Bottle Cap.

"Combine" is now as an option in the Bags menu (Use/Hold/Combine/Toss). You can combine Z crystals and Mega Stones to make a new items, like "Darkium Z Gengarite" for example.

The aura of Z-Stones allow some Pokémon to bond with their trainers and change some of their features in battle to look more like the trainer. This feature is limited to the Starting Pokémon from XY and SM, Type Null and Lycanroc. Plenty of Customization Options now to reflect this.

Z-Form Pokémon function similarly to Mega Evolved Pokémon. You can only use 1 in battle, but they're so powerful that if it feints you automatically lose the battle.

There isn't a Champion in Sun and Moon. Your games final boss fight is with UB-02 Beauty in Moon, or UB-02 Absorption in Sun - they aren't catchable.

Strong Pokémon are available in the wild, some of them include Mamoswine, Aerodactyl, Dragonite, Steelix, and Arcanine.

A wild Raikou roams MeleMele island post game. A wild Suicune roams Poni island. A wild Entei roams Ula'Ula island. They're all holding special Z stones.

Several returning characters from past games return with various things to do.

NPC named Maize can sell you a only a dozen Moon Balls, Friend Balls, and several other Poke ball selections every 12 hours.

There is a Ghost Type Kahuna named Christie. She is the cousin of Agatha from Kanto region.

Trainer Zinnia from Pokémon OR and AS makes an appearance. When Pokémon Bank becomes available in February 2017 she can tutor Dragon Ascent to a transferred Rayquaza.


There are many Alolan Form Pokémon. All from Gen One. I'm not aware of how many Generation Seven Pokémon there are. Seemingly a lot.

Rattata (Dark/Normal)
Raticate (Dark/Normal)
Ekans (Water/Poison)
Arbok (Water/Poison)
Raichu (Electric/Psychic)
Sandshrew (Ice/Steel)
Sandslash (Ice/Steel)
Nidorina (Fighting/Poison)
Nidoqueen (Fighting/Poison)
Nidorino (Fighting/Poison)
Nidoking (Fighting/Poison)
Vulpix (Ice)
Ninetales (Ice/Fairy)
Vileplume (Dark/Poison)
Meowth (Dark)
Persian (Dark/Psychic)
Ponyta (Fairy)
Rapidash (Fairy/Flying)
Doduo (Ground/Fighting)
Dodrio (Ground/Fighting)
Exeggutor (Grass/Dragon)
Marowak (Fire/Ghost)
Koffing (Fire)
Weezing (Fire)
Jynx (Grass/Psychic)
Omastar (Bug/Dragon) [Sun Only]
Omanyte (Bug/Dragon) [Sun Only]
Kabuto (Bug/Steel [Moon Only]
Kabutops (Bug/Steel) [Moon Only]

Mega Evolution is a post-game quest which requires you to find all 64 Mega Stones, 47 are from the previous 4 titles. Some of the new Mega's consist of Bellosom, Haxorus, Froslass, and the Starting Pokémon of GS.

There will be a trailer on Oct 4 which highlights some of these, and a Trail Version released to eshop on Oct 26. This trail version allows you to test out Rowlet, Litten, and Popplio for yourself. and also allows you to transfer any items found as well as Alolan Raticate to your purchased Sun and Moon games. From what I understand Japan's Trail Version features a different Alolan Mon instead of Raticate.

Last bit.

Pokémon Sun and Moon take place 20 years after the events of Red and Blue, and 3 years after the events of XY.

Shauna makes a return. She doesn't do much until post-game where she'll give you a Pangoro hat.

Red can be battled post-game. He'll have an Umbreon in Moon, and an Espeon in Sun.

Sun and Moon is a really large game full of too many things to do. There isn't a Kalos or Kanto post game but you guys will not be disappointed. Hope you all love the Oct 4 trailer.
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Spoiler:
Wild Togedemaru has a chance of holding a Silver Bottle Cap.

"Combine" is now as an option in the Bags menu (Use/Hold/Combine/Toss). You can combine Z crystals and Mega Stones to make a new items, like "Darkium Z Gengarite" for example.

The aura of Z-Stones allow some Pokémon to bond with their trainers and change some of their features in battle to look more like the trainer. This feature is limited to the Starting Pokémon from XY and SM, Type Null and Lycanroc. Plenty of Customization Options now to reflect this.

Z-Form Pokémon function similarly to Mega Evolved Pokémon. You can only use 1 in battle, but they're so powerful that if it feints you automatically lose the battle.

There isn't a Champion in Sun and Moon. Your games final boss fight is with UB-02 Beauty in Moon, or UB-02 Absorption in Sun - they aren't catchable.

Strong Pokémon are available in the wild, some of them include Mamoswine, Aerodactyl, Dragonite, Steelix, and Arcanine.

A wild Raikou roams MeleMele island post game. A wild Suicune roams Poni island. A wild Entei roams Ula'Ula island. They're all holding special Z stones.

Several returning characters from past games return with various things to do.

NPC named Maize can sell you a only a dozen Moon Balls, Friend Balls, and several other Poke ball selections every 12 hours.

There is a Ghost Type Kahuna named Christie. She is the cousin of Agatha from Kanto region.

Trainer Zinnia from Pokémon OR and AS makes an appearance. When Pokémon Bank becomes available in February 2017 she can tutor Dragon Ascent to a transferred Rayquaza.


There are many Alolan Form Pokémon. All from Gen One. I'm not aware of how many Generation Seven Pokémon there are. Seemingly a lot.

Rattata (Dark/Normal)
Raticate (Dark/Normal)
Ekans (Water/Poison)
Arbok (Water/Poison)
Raichu (Electric/Psychic)
Sandshrew (Ice/Steel)
Sandslash (Ice/Steel)
Nidorina (Fighting/Poison)
Nidoqueen (Fighting/Poison)
Nidorino (Fighting/Poison)
Nidoking (Fighting/Poison)
Vulpix (Ice)
Ninetales (Ice/Fairy)
Vileplume (Dark/Poison)
Meowth (Dark)
Persian (Dark/Psychic)
Ponyta (Fairy)
Rapidash (Fairy/Flying)
Doduo (Ground/Fighting)
Dodrio (Ground/Fighting)
Exeggutor (Grass/Dragon)
Marowak (Fire/Ghost)
Koffing (Fire)
Weezing (Fire)
Jynx (Grass/Psychic)
Omastar (Bug/Dragon) [Sun Only]
Omanyte (Bug/Dragon) [Sun Only]
Kabuto (Bug/Steel [Moon Only]
Kabutops (Bug/Steel) [Moon Only]

Mega Evolution is a post-game quest which requires you to find all 64 Mega Stones, 47 are from the previous 4 titles. Some of the new Mega's consist of Bellosom, Haxorus, Froslass, and the Starting Pokémon of GS.

There will be a trailer on Oct 4 which highlights some of these, and a Trail Version released to eshop on Oct 26. This trail version allows you to test out Rowlet, Litten, and Popplio for yourself. and also allows you to transfer any items found as well as Alolan Raticate to your purchased Sun and Moon games. From what I understand Japan's Trail Version features a different Alolan Mon instead of Raticate.

Last bit.

Pokémon Sun and Moon take place 20 years after the events of Red and Blue, and 3 years after the events of XY.

Shauna makes a return. She doesn't do much until post-game where she'll give you a Pangoro hat.

Red can be battled post-game. He'll have an Umbreon in Moon, and an Espeon in Sun.

Sun and Moon is a really large game full of too many things to do. There isn't a Kalos or Kanto post game but you guys will not be disappointed. Hope you all love the Oct 4 trailer.
Everything seems SO great except that the fact there isnt a champion and instead we need to fight a UB as our final boss? No ty :o
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"Combine" is now as an option in the Bags menu (Use/Hold/Combine/Toss). You can combine Z crystals and Mega Stones to make a new items, like "Darkium Z Gengarite" for example.

The aura of Z-Stones allow some Pokémon to bond with their trainers and change some of their features in battle to look more like the trainer. This feature is limited to the Starting Pokémon from XY and SM, Type Null and Lycanroc. Plenty of Customization Options now to reflect this.

Z-Form Pokémon function similarly to Mega Evolved Pokémon. You can only use 1 in battle, but they're so powerful that if it feints you automatically lose the battle.
I have trouble believing this, additionally I don't want this to be real. xD
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From 4chan:

Spoiler:
Wild Togedemaru has a chance of holding a Silver Bottle Cap.

"Combine" is now as an option in the Bags menu (Use/Hold/Combine/Toss). You can combine Z crystals and Mega Stones to make a new items, like "Darkium Z Gengarite" for example.

The aura of Z-Stones allow some Pokémon to bond with their trainers and change some of their features in battle to look more like the trainer. This feature is limited to the Starting Pokémon from XY and SM, Type Null and Lycanroc. Plenty of Customization Options now to reflect this.

Z-Form Pokémon function similarly to Mega Evolved Pokémon. You can only use 1 in battle, but they're so powerful that if it feints you automatically lose the battle.

There isn't a Champion in Sun and Moon. Your games final boss fight is with UB-02 Beauty in Moon, or UB-02 Absorption in Sun - they aren't catchable.

Strong Pokémon are available in the wild, some of them include Mamoswine, Aerodactyl, Dragonite, Steelix, and Arcanine.

A wild Raikou roams MeleMele island post game. A wild Suicune roams Poni island. A wild Entei roams Ula'Ula island. They're all holding special Z stones.

Several returning characters from past games return with various things to do.

NPC named Maize can sell you a only a dozen Moon Balls, Friend Balls, and several other Poke ball selections every 12 hours.

There is a Ghost Type Kahuna named Christie. She is the cousin of Agatha from Kanto region.

Trainer Zinnia from Pokémon OR and AS makes an appearance. When Pokémon Bank becomes available in February 2017 she can tutor Dragon Ascent to a transferred Rayquaza.


There are many Alolan Form Pokémon. All from Gen One. I'm not aware of how many Generation Seven Pokémon there are. Seemingly a lot.

Rattata (Dark/Normal)
Raticate (Dark/Normal)
Ekans (Water/Poison)
Arbok (Water/Poison)
Raichu (Electric/Psychic)
Sandshrew (Ice/Steel)
Sandslash (Ice/Steel)
Nidorina (Fighting/Poison)
Nidoqueen (Fighting/Poison)
Nidorino (Fighting/Poison)
Nidoking (Fighting/Poison)
Vulpix (Ice)
Ninetales (Ice/Fairy)
Vileplume (Dark/Poison)
Meowth (Dark)
Persian (Dark/Psychic)
Ponyta (Fairy)
Rapidash (Fairy/Flying)
Doduo (Ground/Fighting)
Dodrio (Ground/Fighting)
Exeggutor (Grass/Dragon)
Marowak (Fire/Ghost)
Koffing (Fire)
Weezing (Fire)
Jynx (Grass/Psychic)
Omastar (Bug/Dragon) [Sun Only]
Omanyte (Bug/Dragon) [Sun Only]
Kabuto (Bug/Steel [Moon Only]
Kabutops (Bug/Steel) [Moon Only]

Mega Evolution is a post-game quest which requires you to find all 64 Mega Stones, 47 are from the previous 4 titles. Some of the new Mega's consist of Bellosom, Haxorus, Froslass, and the Starting Pokémon of GS.

There will be a trailer on Oct 4 which highlights some of these, and a Trail Version released to eshop on Oct 26. This trail version allows you to test out Rowlet, Litten, and Popplio for yourself. and also allows you to transfer any items found as well as Alolan Raticate to your purchased Sun and Moon games. From what I understand Japan's Trail Version features a different Alolan Mon instead of Raticate.

Last bit.

Pokémon Sun and Moon take place 20 years after the events of Red and Blue, and 3 years after the events of XY.

Shauna makes a return. She doesn't do much until post-game where she'll give you a Pangoro hat.

Red can be battled post-game. He'll have an Umbreon in Moon, and an Espeon in Sun.

Sun and Moon is a really large game full of too many things to do. There isn't a Kalos or Kanto post game but you guys will not be disappointed. Hope you all love the Oct 4 trailer.
Not sure how I feel about "combining" items.

However, I would love a grass/psychic Jynx (I am a bit wary that it is piggy backing off of the many speculations and artist renditions of a hula Jynx.) I also would be down for a (fairy/flying) Pegasus Rapidash! Also, I had not thought about a water/poison ekans/arbok likely referring to coral snakes.

The XY starters, SM Starters, and Lycanroc rumor with z-forms has been speculated since the mention of z-forms and even synchroevolution way back.

For some reason I am not buying that UB 02 is the final boss either.

All -in-all there are not too many bold claims. The ones that are there are a bit eye-brow raising, but not completely implausible. At least it was a decent enough attempt on the leakers part.
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Everything seems SO great except that the fact there isnt a champion and instead we need to fight a UB as our final boss? No ty :o
I wouldn't like this either.

Kukui talks about aiming to be the strongest trainer -- the island challenge champion. That could just be a term that Alola uses for those who successfully complete the trials of an island or all four. Either that or it is the standard term for Champion in Pokemon in that we battle and defeat an existing Champion of Alola to obtain the title ourselves. Idk, with the Gyms being replaced it is hard to say what format they will take! :<
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A pokemon being a "champion" seems unlikely IMO. It's just not as much of a challenge? Idk.

Also the stone combining thing sounds messy and no. A pokemon shouldn't be able to mega evolve AND use a z-move.
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I was about to post that rumor. I like it except for the combining feature. Sounds pretty unlikely and complicated.

I wouldn't mind the other stuff though.
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Spoiler:
Wild Togedemaru has a chance of holding a Silver Bottle Cap.

"Combine" is now as an option in the Bags menu (Use/Hold/Combine/Toss). You can combine Z crystals and Mega Stones to make a new items, like "Darkium Z Gengarite" for example.

The aura of Z-Stones allow some Pokémon to bond with their trainers and change some of their features in battle to look more like the trainer. This feature is limited to the Starting Pokémon from XY and SM, Type Null and Lycanroc. Plenty of Customization Options now to reflect this.

Z-Form Pokémon function similarly to Mega Evolved Pokémon. You can only use 1 in battle, but they're so powerful that if it feints you automatically lose the battle.

There isn't a Champion in Sun and Moon. Your games final boss fight is with UB-02 Beauty in Moon, or UB-02 Absorption in Sun - they aren't catchable.

Strong Pokémon are available in the wild, some of them include Mamoswine, Aerodactyl, Dragonite, Steelix, and Arcanine.

A wild Raikou roams MeleMele island post game. A wild Suicune roams Poni island. A wild Entei roams Ula'Ula island. They're all holding special Z stones.

Several returning characters from past games return with various things to do.

NPC named Maize can sell you a only a dozen Moon Balls, Friend Balls, and several other Poke ball selections every 12 hours.

There is a Ghost Type Kahuna named Christie. She is the cousin of Agatha from Kanto region.

Trainer Zinnia from Pokémon OR and AS makes an appearance. When Pokémon Bank becomes available in February 2017 she can tutor Dragon Ascent to a transferred Rayquaza.


There are many Alolan Form Pokémon. All from Gen One. I'm not aware of how many Generation Seven Pokémon there are. Seemingly a lot.

Rattata (Dark/Normal)
Raticate (Dark/Normal)
Ekans (Water/Poison)
Arbok (Water/Poison)
Raichu (Electric/Psychic)
Sandshrew (Ice/Steel)
Sandslash (Ice/Steel)
Nidorina (Fighting/Poison)
Nidoqueen (Fighting/Poison)
Nidorino (Fighting/Poison)
Nidoking (Fighting/Poison)
Vulpix (Ice)
Ninetales (Ice/Fairy)
Vileplume (Dark/Poison)
Meowth (Dark)
Persian (Dark/Psychic)
Ponyta (Fairy)
Rapidash (Fairy/Flying)
Doduo (Ground/Fighting)
Dodrio (Ground/Fighting)
Exeggutor (Grass/Dragon)
Marowak (Fire/Ghost)
Koffing (Fire)
Weezing (Fire)
Jynx (Grass/Psychic)
Omastar (Bug/Dragon) [Sun Only]
Omanyte (Bug/Dragon) [Sun Only]
Kabuto (Bug/Steel [Moon Only]
Kabutops (Bug/Steel) [Moon Only]

Mega Evolution is a post-game quest which requires you to find all 64 Mega Stones, 47 are from the previous 4 titles. Some of the new Mega's consist of Bellosom, Haxorus, Froslass, and the Starting Pokémon of GS.

There will be a trailer on Oct 4 which highlights some of these, and a Trail Version released to eshop on Oct 26. This trail version allows you to test out Rowlet, Litten, and Popplio for yourself. and also allows you to transfer any items found as well as Alolan Raticate to your purchased Sun and Moon games. From what I understand Japan's Trail Version features a different Alolan Mon instead of Raticate.

Last bit.

Pokémon Sun and Moon take place 20 years after the events of Red and Blue, and 3 years after the events of XY.

Shauna makes a return. She doesn't do much until post-game where she'll give you a Pangoro hat.

Red can be battled post-game. He'll have an Umbreon in Moon, and an Espeon in Sun.

Sun and Moon is a really large game full of too many things to do. There isn't a Kalos or Kanto post game but you guys will not be disappointed. Hope you all love the Oct 4 trailer.
>Combining Z-Crystals and Mega Stones.

Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope. I don't think I even have to explain why this would be a horrendous idea. Not a big fan of Z-Forms either.

But other than that, the contents of this leak don't sound half bad. Probably fake, tho.
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^ yeah agreed. It's a very safe leak and the only thing that's really out there is the combining feature, but that feature seems a bit over the top imo.
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