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Old October 4th, 2016 (4:19 PM).
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I mean, it's kinda a given that whenever a demo like this is released, someone is going to datamine the crap out of it, right? :x
True, but GF can at least do a good job of deleting any big information left behind. The Smash Bros 3DS demo did a pretty good job of that.
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Blue Cyclone is back, and he's apparently calling out on the Riddle Leaker through a hashtag.
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I'm seriously disappointed with their choice to add Ash-Greninja to the game. It's clear that they're pandering to greninja over the other two Kalos starters. u_u
Greninja was voted the most popular Pokemon tho, it makes sense. Also Ash-Greninja was most likely going to be in th game from the get go, since it came out with perfect Zy for the anime, so it's not a situation of them "adding it in the game" - it was going to be in the game regardless, they just gave the anime a very early sneak peek

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To you, do the starters evolutions confirm the leaks or not?
Except for Popplio, I feel like the mid-evos don't really lead to the leaked final evos we have seen...
Yes.
Litten2 I think does the most. It's collar is essentially the belt from the leaked evo.mtheres no way you can deny their similarities.
As for the other two, Popplio2's design very much looks like it's final, and Rowlet2 kind of has than "cool" vibe I'd imagine an archer to have. Plus all of their entries on the site seem to support it too.

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****ing ash greninja I swear I almost threw my phone at a wall when I saw it appear

and its still called ash-greninja! AHHHHHHHHHH
Yeah I'm not annoyed by any means of it being in the game, since I know it'd be there, but why is it called ash-Greninja? It doesn't really make sense, unless the demo character is default named Ash, and that's how it works in the demo, but then what when you transfer it over? Where does the bond go? Does "Ash" like die at the end of the demo and then his soul lives on in your character which allows you to still use the bond ability?

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Yes. Not sure I would call it a leak, though, since it is in official websites.

We can assume Vulpix will evolve with it, but I wonder what else will use it.
Ice Stone was a leak because the Spanish website removed the image not long after posting it.
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I don't think the middle evolutions are worth looking to far into in terms of confirming leaks. The appearance of Mallow confirmed them, no need to beat a dead horse. What is interesting is how different Dartrix in particular is to Robinroot (or whatever you want to call the archer). Makes me think that the branched evolutions may really be a thing.
Well he is using feathers as throwing darts, which is the reason for is name Dart and Tricks. So it isn't too farfetch'd to see him changing into an archer.

When honestly, I am really surprised people haven't picked up on that yet. But I do still think there is split evos non the less.

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80-90 Pokemon is ridiculously low, especially if that's including Alola forms. @[email protected];
I can already tell you that if that is including Alolan Forms, it is almost guranteed to be fake, as I can easily name more than 85 with Alolans and what we already know. That alone adds up to 78 which isn't counting UBs.
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Saw this as part of a tweet from people cracking the demo. Would be really cool - wonder what sort of memories and past events it would be tied to. Seems kind of similar to Memory Link from BW2 but cooler since it's tied to your data and not connecting games.
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Can someone remind me what the most established/most likely names for the leaked starter final evolutions are? Please and thank you.
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Memory link may be returning? That's pretty hype! One of my favorite features of BW2. It has a lot of potential to build on the 6 gen stories and more. Really interested to see where that goes.
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Memory link may be returning? That's pretty hype! One of my favorite features of BW2. It has a lot of potential to build on the 6 gen stories and more. Really interested to see where that goes.
Yeah I think so! I wonder how it will link up the stories of XY with the plot of Alola.


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I just found it very interesting that there's no Kanto set. Such a huge focus on Kanto in these games (Alola forms, Alola Oak, Kanto Pokmon getting Z Moves)... seems odd there's no Kanto Set available for purchase. Unless you can only buy a Kanto Set in Kanto itself? I remember there was a 4chan leak which has got some things correct, that mentioned the SS Anne being back...
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I don't feel there's a reason to visit Kanto either, but I do feel like all this Kanto Kanto Kanto stuff can't all be a coincidence. Even things like Oricorio's flavour text mentions Kanto.

It all seems like a bit much to be random and coincidental.
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Yeah I think so! I wonder how it will link up the stories of XY with the plot of Alola.


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I just found it very interesting that there's no Kanto set. Such a huge focus on Kanto in these games (Alola forms, Alola Oak, Kanto Pokmon getting Z Moves)... seems odd there's no Kanto Set available for purchase. Unless you can only buy a Kanto Set in Kanto itself? I remember there was a 4chan leak which has got some things correct, that mentioned the SS Anne being back...
Oh gosh, plz no. The Kanto pandering is already strong in this game, to actually go back to the place would be overkill, IMO.

Besides, we all know Kalos is the region we need to return to.
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It be weird to go back to Kanto considering that you move from Kanto to Alola. Unless after beating the game you go back there to announce your success in Alola, or maybe you go back after hearing how it's changed. Either one of those seems unlikely though. Going back to Kanto would be neat in 3d, but going back to Kalos would be better imo.
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Looks like someone has an encrypted version of the demo already downloaded. Nothing new just yet but apparently they're looking through.

Whole thing could be fake but it wouldn't surprise me if someone did have some sort of download this early, even if it is encrypted.
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Re: E:/Michael/3dsdev -- Michael is my name, and 3dsdev is the folder where I put all my 3ds related work in -- when Kaphotics and I datamined the oras demo, it was in E:/Michael/3dsdev/ORAS Demo.

Nothing can be datamined from the demo before its release date. When I say encrypted, I *mean* encrypted.
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So, the "Riddler" (the one with hints), the "Chinese" (the one with the snowman and dolphin), and the concept art (the starters final evolutions) leaks are not yet proven false?
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I don't think we'll return to Kanto.
But maybe someones gives you the Kanto set as a present when you arrive at Festival Plaza for the first time?
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So, the "Riddler" (the one with hints), the "Chinese" (the one with the snowman and dolphin), and the concept art (the starters final evolutions) leaks are not yet proven false?
At this point, yes.

The Chinese leaks accurately predicted a lot of the confirmed info so far (though not all of it), and the concept art of the starters' final evolutions has also been very credible due to said Chinese leak mentioning the "archer, wrestler, siren" theme, as well as Ash and Mallow appearing in the art (specifically the piece for Litten's final evolution).
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Yeah I think so! I wonder how it will link up the stories of XY with the plot of Alola.


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I just found it very interesting that there's no Kanto set. Such a huge focus on Kanto in these games (Alola forms, Alola Oak, Kanto Pokmon getting Z Moves)... seems odd there's no Kanto Set available for purchase. Unless you can only buy a Kanto Set in Kanto itself? I remember there was a 4chan leak which has got some things correct, that mentioned the SS Anne being back...
There's also a scroll bar on the side. It could be that the Kanto set is just further down the list. I know that the honey set is in a weird spot if that's true, but we haven't seen the full list yet.
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So, the "Riddler" (the one with hints), the "Chinese" (the one with the snowman and dolphin), and the concept art (the starters final evolutions) leaks are not yet proven false?
Well, after Ash-Greninja's reveal, we do have a strike against the Chinese leak. They claimed that the logo diamonds would cause Ash-Greninja's transformation, but that's not the case.

Regardless, for the most part, it's real.
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I'm kind of confused as to what these regional sets are supposed to be about. o.o Huh.
Just random items I guess, probably not anything worth a lot if a PP Up costs 200 FC and the regional sets only cost 10 FC. edit: could be a random regional-specific item? Like maybe the Johto Set will have a random Apricorn Ball, and the Hoenn Set could have a Lava Cookie.
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I'd love to be able to go back to Kanto in these games (or any region, really), but I don't see it happening.

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Well, after Ash-Greninja's reveal, we do have a strike against the Chinese leak. They claimed that the logo diamonds would cause Ash-Greninja's transformation, but that's not the case.

Regardless, for the most part, it's real.
Well tbh it doesn't completely deconfirm it. I mean it does seem to be the case but all that's been said is we'll be able to transfer Ash-Greninja over, I don't think they ever said anything about it being exclusive to the demo, as Mega Glaile/Steelix weren't. It might be possible that the demo Greninja excludes needing the diamonds, when Greninja in the game will need diamonds (like I said, I doubt this is the case).
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Re: E:/Michael/3dsdev -- Michael is my name, and 3dsdev is the folder where I put all my 3ds related work in -- when Kaphotics and I datamined the oras demo, it was in E:/Michael/3dsdev/ORAS Demo.

Nothing can be datamined from the demo before its release date. When I say encrypted, I *mean* encrypted.
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Can someone remind me what the most established/most likely names for the leaked starter final evolutions are? Please and thank you.
I call them Robinroot, Beltigre and Sirene. No way of knowing if those are real, they were just from yet another probably fake leak, but I like the names so I use them, and I think that's probably the set of names that most will recognise the designs from.
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Just random items I guess, probably not anything worth a lot if a PP Up costs 200 FC and the regional sets only cost 10 FC. edit: could be a random regional-specific item? Like maybe the Johto Set will have a random Apricorn Ball, and the Hoenn Set could have a Lava Cookie.
Please bring back Apricorn Balls and improved breeding mechanics.... please!! I literally only want this because it's confirmed we can catch Eevee and then I can finally breed Love/Moon Ball Eevee legally 8) I wonder if we'll be able to catch Pokemon with their Hidden Abilites in the wild again? This would be so interesting with Apricorn Balls...

as for the the starter evos, I've seen Robinroot, Robinhoot, Luchalitten, Beltigre, Poppamaid, Entermaid... there's just a lot of fan names out there, no way to tell what the real ones are.
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Now that you bring up the mention of Hidden Abilities, I wonder what method S/M is going to introduce to obtain Pokemon with those abilities? It's worth some thought.
If i had to guess it would probably be the isle abeen game they showed in yesterdays trailer.
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That's actually a good point! At the very least, I hope those Pokemon would have hidden abilities. :o I also wonder if the Pokemon visiting would be totally random (it most likely will be, but yeah)?
I dont think they would be random. I would think since pokemon in your box join in those islands it would have to do with the Pokémon you place there that attract certain pokemon to join you.
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So you're thinking like say, if I place say, Mimikyu in my PC, the Pokemon that would show up with have some connection or something with Mimikyu? :o
Yes. For example similar type and for certain pokemon that would have a special connection to it. So say you put a seviper in there you could attract other poison types or maybe a zangoose since they are connected.
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