Alolan Team Ideas!

Started by GloomyFrost13 November 27th, 2016 3:00 PM
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GloomyFrost13

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So I really really like a lot of the new Alolan 'mons, and I'm super excited to battle with them... once I can actually get the items I need from the Battle Tree without being annihilated because of my untrained in-game team (seriously, anyone else finding the Battle Tree really hard?)
So what I can't do in-game, I'll just do on paper then! Keep in mind this probably won't be my team; I just wanna figure out what each new 'mon's role could be. Here we go!

Salazzle @Choice Scarf/Choice Specs
Nature: Timid/Modest
Ability: Corrosion
EVs: 252 Special Attack/252 Speed/4 HP
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Wave/Sludge Bomb
- Dragon Pulse
- Toxic

I'm pretty sure this one's meant to be a Sweeper, right?
I know Corrosion's a bit of a wasted ability, but I figure it'd be pretty neat to be able to poison another Poison-type switching in to wall my Poison STAB.
STABS are pretty cut 'n dry, and Dragon Pulse is literally Salazzle's only special coverage move.
Now here's the dilemma - Toxic is there in case Salazzle scares anything out on the switch-in, maybe giving me an easy poison. BUT, it's pretty useless otherwise for a Pokèmon so frail and I'd have to switch out after cause of my Choice item.
I've also seen a Life Orb Salazzle with Nasty Plot, but I can't see that lasting very long.

Lycanroc Midday @Choice Band/Life Orb
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Attack/252 Speed/4 HP
- Stone Edge
- Accelerock
- Crunch
- Fire Fang/Stealth Rock

Physical sweeper/revenge killer,I guess?
I like the idea of SR, but again my puppy is a bit squishy for it. What I really want is for it to revenge kill with Accelerock and then GTFO, or wreck house with its other moves. I don't get to play with fast Rock-types often!

So those are the only ones I've really though of yet. Others I like the look of are:
- Kommo-o (Awesome base stats)
- Wishiwashi (Awesome base stats in School Form)
- Mudsdale (Great Attack and stacking Defense boosts - just train in HP/Sp.Def?)
- Dhelmise (THREE STABS!)
- Toxapex (Troll wall with Regenerator, or juggernaut with Merciless+Recover - I don't get why people think this ability is a waste. Not only does a crit mean a doubled offensive stat essentially, bumping Toxapex's over 100 on a crit, it also ignores stat changes!) In fact.....

Toxapex @Leftovers
Nature: Whatever gives +Def/Sp.Def and -Sp.Atk
Ability: Merciless
EVs: 252 HP/100 Attack/76 Defense/76 Special Defense
- Baneful Bunker/Protect
- Recover
- Toxic/Poison Jab
- Toxic/Liquidation

This one is a really rough draft. I see Toxapex either being the new Ferrothorn with Regenerator, or my idea, a shorter-lived but harder-hitting juggernaut.
My issue is that you NEED to poison your opponent for this idea to work, and while Baneful Bunker is cool, nobody's going to try a physical attack if they know you have it. So my set would likely be Protect, Toxic, Recover and one STAB. My only worry is Taunt.
Again, auto-crits make up for my Crown 'o Thorns' piddly Attack, I reckon.



So, ideas for these three or any others I listed? Fire away!
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I don't get why people think this ability is a waste. Not only does a crit mean a doubled offensive stat essentially, bumping Toxapex's over 100 on a crit, it also ignores stat changes!)
Crits only deal 1.5x damage not 2x. Combined with base 63/53 offenses which you won't be investing heavily into, and the setup required to use Merciless, you're doing pretty minuscule damage most of the time. Also not sure why you would be running Poison Jab over Venoshock.

PlatinumDude

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Merciless seems tempting, but Toxapex's main niche is essentially a Tentacruel that never dies:
-Scald
-Haze
-Toxic/Toxic Spikes/Sludge Bomb
-Recover
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 SDef
Item: Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator

Dhelmise is a nice bulky Rapid Spinner; Kommo-o has access to a myriad of setup moves to make up for its above average offensive presence:

Dhelmise:
-Power Whip
-Shadow Claw/Earthquake
-Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/148 Atk/108 SDef
Item: Assault Vest

or
-Power Whip
-Gyro Ball
-Earthquake
-Shadow Claw/Rapid Spin/Switcheroo
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
Item: Choice Band

or
-Swords Dance
-Shadow Claw/Earthquake
-Power Whip
-Anchor Shot
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 SDef
Item: Leftovers

or
-Phantom Force
-Anchor Shot
-Toxic
-Substitute/Protect
Nature: Careful
EVs: 248 HP/172 SDef/84 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Kommo-o:
-Dragon Dance/Swords Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Sky Uppercut
-Poison Jab/Earthquake
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

or
-Clanging Scales
-Focus Blast
-Flamethrower
-Flash Cannon
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs

or
-Autotomize
-Clanging Scales
-Focus Blast
-Flamethrower/Flash Cannon
Nature: Modest
EVs: 72 HP/4 Def/252 SAtk/180 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Midday Lycanroc can act as a suicide lead with Stealth Rock:
-Stealth Rock
-Taunt
-Stone Edge
-Accelerock
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Sand Rush

Wishiwashi may be broken in-game, but it needs plenty of support and/or RestTalk to stay in its school form. Mudsdale may have good stats, but its move pool is pretty shallow.

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I really like the look of Dhelmise even more now!
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Something else I realised:
Golisopod's Emergency Exit would actually be incredible when coupled with all the priority moves it can learn; it'd be the ultimate bulky hit-and-runner:

Golisopod @Sitrus Berry(?) - Just to beef it up a bit again after E.E activates
Ability: Emergency Exit
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack/252 HP/4 Speed (just so Swords Dance goes before anything slower)
- Aqua Jet
- First Impression
- Sucker Punch
- Swords Dance
Hit-and-Run, Pivot, Revenge Killer. This badass could potentially be all of them.
The priority moves are self-explanatory: Golisopod's ability cripples it without them. Swords Dance is there in case I get an opening. Sitrus Berry is the held item so it can gain back a bit of bulk even when its ability sends it out; I considered Choice Band and Life Orb, but I don't like either of them.

This is the guy I'm gonna invest my Gold Bottle Cap in; I'm really excited about using him now!
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Something else I realised:
Golisopod's Emergency Exit would actually be incredible when coupled with all the priority moves it can learn; it'd be the ultimate bulky hit-and-runner:

Golisopod @Sitrus Berry(?) - Just to beef it up a bit again after E.E activates
Ability: Emergency Exit
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack/252 HP/4 Speed (just so Swords Dance goes before anything slower)
- Aqua Jet
- First Impression
- Sucker Punch
- Swords Dance
Hit-and-Run, Pivot, Revenge Killer. This badass could potentially be all of them.
The priority moves are self-explanatory: Golisopod's ability cripples it without them. Swords Dance is there in case I get an opening. Sitrus Berry is the held item so it can gain back a bit of bulk even when its ability sends it out; I considered Choice Band and Life Orb, but I don't like either of them.

This is the guy I'm gonna invest my Gold Bottle Cap in; I'm really excited about using him now!
Emergency Exit activating at inopportune times makes setup moves a no-go on Golisopod, as switching out removes your stat boosts. The best set for Golisopod, IMO, is Assault Vest to make it even bulkier. It's still very strong:
-First Impression
-Liquidation
-Leech Life
-Aqua Jet/Sucker Punch
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spe
Item: Assault Vest

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Oh, forgot Leech Life is actually really good now :)
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