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Old May 14th, 2005 (10:15 AM).
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erm which one is better? like i have a zangoose again a ewtwo. shd i use shadow ball or return?

erm how does supper effective counts anyway?
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Old May 14th, 2005 (10:22 AM).
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super effective is 2x, STAB is 1.5x.

Well if your zangoose loves you like heck, rturns base power should be 102, and with stab it will become 153.

With shadowball- it has a base power of 80, 2x on mewtwo makes in a base power of 160.

They're both physical moves, so they do similar damage.

You have to check a few things when thinking about what type of attack to use:
Do not be like the classic noob:
"Well my slaking needs brick break so it could beat other normal types, DUH"
"Look you tart: Return will do MORE damage than brick break on a normal type when used by slaking: 102(1.5)= 153. 75(2)= 150. Don't bother."

Think about things like that when choosing your attack. :-)
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Old May 14th, 2005 (10:52 AM).
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oic thx a lot man! that really helps!

hm that means stab + choice band = x3? O.o (1.5 + 1.5)
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Old May 14th, 2005 (11:13 AM).
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stab + choice band = 2.25.

All the damage calculation in the game is based on multplication:
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1.5x1.5 = 2.25

Its still pretty nice :)
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Old May 15th, 2005 (7:30 AM).
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Youre wrong.

CB is only on the attack stat, not moves. CBslaking will have 690 attack, and with stabbed return kills a lot of crap.
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Old May 15th, 2005 (8:51 AM).
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Old May 15th, 2005 (9:24 AM).
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Youre wrong.

CB is only on the attack stat, not moves. CBslaking will have 690 attack, and with stabbed return kills a lot of crap.
Not against Regirock ;P
On a similar note: on sweepers, is it always best to try and include a stabbed move when stats allow it?
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Old May 15th, 2005 (10:00 AM).
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hmmm juz wanna ask y does ppl use return on slaking instead of hyper beam?

i dun think its because of the PP rite? with that much much u can finish the game b4 the pp end... is it bcos of the accuracy?
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Old May 15th, 2005 (10:06 AM).
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it is so that you can switch out, if you want
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Old May 15th, 2005 (10:22 AM).
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Because medicham OHKO's you with FP.
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Old May 15th, 2005 (1:09 PM).
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erm u mean that if use hyper beam u cant switch out even if u want to after using it?

erm what does medicham OHKO got to do with that... sorry -.-
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Youre wrong.

CB is only on the attack stat, not moves. CBslaking will have 690 attack, and with stabbed return kills a lot of crap.

Ah, my bad, i thought CB multplied da attack. 690 attack... AHHHHH!!!

I think im gonna start using that now lolz

Dang, a CB medicham which hasn't been skillswaped... oh my.
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Old May 15th, 2005 (2:11 PM).
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I prefer medicham for massive attack as its bests slaking with its 720 atk, gets fighting STAB, and can attack every turn.

if only it had base 110 speed
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Old May 15th, 2005 (3:56 PM).
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Cham is very common, and will OHKO slaking with Focus Punch. 720 attack is nothing to laugh at.
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Old May 15th, 2005 (4:01 PM).
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cham will OHKO with High Jump Kick
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Old May 16th, 2005 (2:06 AM).
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even brick break...........
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Medicham used Fake Out!
(71% damage)
A critical hit!
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Heracross flinched!
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Smeargle used Transform!
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Smeargle used Ice Beam!
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Old May 16th, 2005 (10:41 AM).
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or HP: fighting
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Old May 16th, 2005 (10:49 AM).
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I just wanted to ask what the hell is STAB?
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Old May 16th, 2005 (11:00 AM).
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Same Type Attack Boost
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Old May 16th, 2005 (11:19 AM).
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Aaaaaaaaa,I get it now.And how did you post only 22 letters(including spaces) and there is need for 25?
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Old May 16th, 2005 (11:22 AM).
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funny how you noticed that
just look at the post a little more closely and you will see the way to get around that.


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Old May 16th, 2005 (6:03 PM).
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Nintendo has to change the description of Choice Bands y'kno. The official one is something along the lines of: Boosts the power of a pokemons move, but permits only that moves use. It does do that according to everyone (including myself), it just multiplies attack.
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