PC needs changes Page 3

Started by Blaze May 20th, 2005 10:40 PM
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Actually it was something Steve said (not literally less democratic) but more like the Community Sites run it than anyone else.

And Claire there have been people who got modship because of who they were friends with, I even heard of people telling me they were sucking up to someone so they would be modded (and it worked)

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Seen May 21st, 2011
Posted May 9th, 2006
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Blaze, you do realise that myself and Steve are the only main root admins that are around? The reason for having red admins is to help the amount of people who are judging and looking after PC. They have just as much say :/

And Claire there have been people who got modship because of who they were friends with, I even heard of people telling me they were sucking up to someone so they would be modded (and it worked)
Someone? Blaze, it's a democracy, we all agree on the mod, it's not one person going behind the others backs and promoting someone. It would've been for their posts, not their sucking up, because they would've had to get through the rest of us.
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Why is this made out to all be so dramatic it is not, Okay PC may not be the biggest Pokemon forum, but nobody said that did they? Perhaps the Admins mod there friends more than random people, but perhaps thats because they know them well, they like there posts, and they are good mods, did you ever think about that?

I honestly don't think that they would do that anyway, okay I may not know the whole facts of the matter, I freely admit to that, but I know alot of the moderators and administrators, they are all very mature people, who deserve there position.

Nobody has anything to own up to, because it hasn't got anything to do with PC, Okay maybe the members, but not the boards, so why bring it up? If you all need to settle somthing do it somewhere else, not at PC, I can tell that this has been brung up, because maybe some of your friends at PC have got banned for reasons, but that doesn't mean you can make it out to be somthing else, this is seriously ridiculous, some of the accusations that have been made here are just plain stupid.
I do not have enough time for PC anymore, it is a sorry affair but I haven't been active in a long time. I do not have many friends still here at PC but if you are one that is still please feel free to contact me via msn.

Dawson

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You fail to grasp the fact that we make friends with the staff AFTER we get modded, not before. I've seen it before. Someone gets modded, becomes close with a higher staff member, and then someone jealous of the one who got modded starts a rumor saying they only got modded cause they were friends with a higher staff member.
Exactly. Before I was modded, I knew none of the staff and none of the staff really knew me. If people were modded because of friendships then half of us wouldn't be mods at all.
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So is this thread ment because you're all having a hissy fit because you're not moderators of PC? Because its beginning to look that way, PC is run how the Admins want it to be, you cannot change that, if you all dislike it so much, leave, and stop with the immaturity.
That's not what they're trying to do, atleast not exactly.
You see, we can change how PC is run, if the Admins agree with what is said. But this is happening just as it has in the past. People with a bit too much pride not willing to admit to some faults, although they can point out every other fault they see in a member.

And what does that create? Members that really want staff members out of their position, and speak about it openly. And what does the staff do? Well, take it as you please, but they enforce bans, say some nice words to the members, and wait for it to happen all over again. And it's perfectly normal to see this happen once in a while- but on the scale to which it has happened on PC? Surely, this isn't just a repeating mistake anymore- it's a little bit of bias that some of them won't admit to. And you see, we're right back where we started.

We each have an equal say, so i'm involved in all modding, blaze. If you're attacking the others for friendship, you're attacking me too. We do not mod for friendship.
Not even considering the possibility of a couple friendship oriented mods?
You want it less democratic? Then what? A dictatorship?
Surely there are less drastic approaches...
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Claire,

This threat is not here to attack anyone especially Community Site Admins, others might use it for that but I will not.

I was asked to make a thread and I did, I am sorry I am speaking my mind but I believe people should understand why alot of the old members are gone.

And if friendship modships and power abuse wasn't a issue here then why would people agree with us? Why would Steve even let this open?

PC needs changes plain and simple

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Posted May 9th, 2006
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No, brittany, because we have a little something called 'trust', brittany. You cannot see the HQ, noone apart from the higher staff knows what's going on, so you are making inferences that you know nothing about..

Blaze, we run PC fine. You expect all the old members to stay forever? People grow up, their lives move on.
You keep saying "PC needs to change!" ..without even giving reasons why, or how. If we left all decisions up to blue admins, barely anything would get done.

Everyone, listen. Those on the negative side, you are making judgments based on negative gossip. You haven't seen the HQ threads, nor do you know what goes on in there. I am telling you from the bottom of my heart that we make mod decisions based on who we think is best for the job. If you'd rather believe gossip from people who can't even see the HQ, then that's your decision.
We can't hold on to every member that we gain, because people are free to live their lived how they want. If they want to leave, then they are free to. There's no need to suggest drastic changes to try and force people to stay.
Whether you believe me is up to you, all that i can do is tell you the truth.
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No, brittany, because we have a little something called 'trust', brittany. You cannot see the HQ, noone apart from the higher staff knows what's going on, so you are making inferences that you know nothing about..
Trust? To be completely honest with you, because of decisions in the past, many members don't have their trust in the PC staff anymore.

And I know nothing about what's going on? I know that PC's greatest Admin was abused by members that eventually took high positions in the PC staff. And nobody wants to admit that they could even have had the smallest fault in the issue. If I remember correctly, Abby admitted to alot of her own faults, and these members found a way to twist them against her- to make her say and do things to PC that she never would have normally done.


Everyone, listen. Those on the negative side, you are making judgments based on negative gossip. You haven't seen the HQ threads, nor do you know what goes on in there. I am telling you from the bottom of my heart that we make mod decisions based on who we think is best for the job. If you'd rather believe gossip from people who can't even see the HQ, then that's your decision.
We can't hold on to every member that we gain, because people are free to live their lived how they want. If they want to leave, then they are free to. There's no need to suggest drastic changes to try and force people to stay.
Whether you believe me is up to you, all that i can do is tell you the truth.
This is exactly the talk I was refferring to in my previous post. Happening almost exactly how I described it- history repeats itself!

Rukario

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lets not even got to the taking sides thing.. lets keep this friendly, objective and helpful... you can't just come a complain, throwing around stuff and not suggest the changes YOU think would fix it.
It's not the staff 100%, though we all can stand some improvement, making PC as it is.. It's a combonation of little things that when added up comes out to be big trouble.

look the staff members here truely want to do the best for PC and if they didn't, they won't be staff members much longer. But, we do need to know how EVERYONE, not just 2 or 3 of you, feel about PC, hence this thread.

Without your objective and helpful input, we can't affect change and things will just go on as is.

About this trust issue... that i'm not to sure on, but have had some complaints about how some users were trated and about the attitudes of some of the staff. Well one thing we'll do is address this in our staff forum to find out whats up with it and how to fix it. Of course, your thoughts and opinions are welcome about this issue, too.

PS: don't lock this yet.
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No it's not Claire,

If you listen I have been telling you that this thread is not targeting anyone ESPECIALLY the Community Sites because those admins were initially the gods of PC

I think that the others are going to proove there point if I continue to have admins IM me and called a me a biased jerk and supposely I am "targeting them". And by credibility goes down because I am not active anymore!

Hello I wonder WHY I wasn't here, and seriously if you really want me to say nice things about PC how can I do it with admins harrassing members for being outspoken?

Now I am deffiantly sure PC needs changes and the sooner the staff admits it the faster it can be done.

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it's more then that.. yes some want to vent their opinions on the bias/friendship or JK issue, but we can (and will) keep this as a feedback to improve PC thread...

i expect the rest of the staff to take whats said here somewhat seriously and at least concider some of it. also help to keep this somewhat open and objective as well as helpful, we don't need flame wars or banned unfairly posts in here.
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Listen, blaze. You say you want staff to "admit their faults" but what evidence have you given of them doing something wrong?
Steve, we have not acted bias, and i'd be seriously shocked if you agreed that we had.
Blaze, if you want to make a suggestions thread, make it, don't create a thread saying "all the staff admit that they're bias!!".
Make a new thread with actual suggestions if you want any progress.
*locks*

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OK STOP LOCKING THIS

I don't think the staff is biased, but if the users think so it needs to be addressed.

this thread is about what needs to be done to improve PC.. members should post their concerns and back that up with examples and a suggestion on how to fix it.

blaze, get off the bias thought for now, and post real, proovable problems.. we don't need this turning into some war.. that won't help any of us.
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Well I always wanted a online RPG,something the type of IBRpg(It is totaly free and easy to install/edit).If you don't know what is that visit dgemu(or can I post a direct link to their offical page?).

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dark peg.. accully i do know what it is and it (along with a flash based games gallery) how been considered before.. we just don't have the (server) resourses avail to us to run these yet)

thanks for the suggestion and we will re-evaluate this from time to time. (I want it too)
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I do not see you doing anything/having better ideas.

Well,I am sure that you got some members here that would be more than glad to shair their bandwith with you.

Thomas

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I know this has been brought up in the past but we have alot of music lovers here at PC and I think a music sub-forum or forum would be a great addition to PC.

Well..any comments?
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Really...the hell? How the hell is anyone acting uppity by saying they like what they like? Sure, I was thinking that too when I saw the thread on the outside, but when you actually put thought into...
Hell yes, before everyone would smack the crap out of me. XD
Actually, Paige... it kinda was somewhat called for. ^^; But yeah. XD *smacks Andy*

Holy Hell. o_o; I've made more posts in here in the past month than I did all last year in the old one. O_o;
Sure...Whatever the hell a bytachslap is.
Hell...They'll just name a textbook "Dawson and Jorge own everything"
Many, many more. All you have to do is search/copy/paste! And our staff has no problems- really thats B.S.

There's nothing wrong with having a fault on PC, we're all human. But to not admit to them, and for some repeating themselves over and over again? Obviously a fanbase protects some, whereas others are left to suffer the consequences? Sometimes being a ban?

Even I have admitted to my faults, many times over- I guess some people in higher positions than I can't bare the thought of not being perfect. I really don't mean this to all staff members though, but I do think we all deserve to have our positions questioned.
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It would be nice if we added a few simple hacks like maybe the bult in IM Messenger (only logged in members can use it)

but it might take away from posting but ehh u never know, and what about a subforum for PC run clans for many online games?

I mean Nintendo is going online Xbox and PS2 and PSP are already plus games like Runescape and what not, so why dont we make a place for PC run clans?

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