Forme Changes

Started by pkmin3033 June 8th, 2017 10:36 AM
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So, Sun and Moon gave us two Lycanroc, two Wishiwashi, four Oricorio, and brought over Zygarde 10% and Complete formes...and a rainbow of Minior cores, if you want to count those. Already we have rumours of a third Lycanroc, and of course the mascot Legendaries of USUM appear to be some kind of forme or mode change or fusion with Necrozma so, clearly, GF are not done with tinkering with the 7th gen quite yet.

Excluding Alolan form Pokemon - obviously - would you like to see any 7th Generation Pokemon in Sun and Moon receive new form(e)s? How would they differ from their counterparts? Do we even NEED additional formes to the small lineup of the 7th gen on top of what we already have?

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I would like a male Salandit evolution, but probably not going to happen.

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I can't see Lycanroc getting a new form since the forms it already has fit with the theme of the games, and shows off a great concept. I could see Marshadow maybe getting a new form if mythicals are taken into account.
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Yeah, I agree with Marshadow. I want to have that Lycanroc form and the male Salandit but I don't think it will happen in USUM.

Marshadow, on the other hand, feels so incomplete as a mythical pokemon, imo.
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I can't see Lycanroc getting a new form since the forms it already has fit with the theme of the games, and shows off a great concept. I could see Marshadow maybe getting a new form if mythicals are taken into account.
I agree. The most I could see them do is changing how it works and make it so that one can get both forms in the same game depending on time of day instead of having them be version exclusive.

Though... what if the Lyranrocs we have now get new forms? Like Ultra Midday Lycanroc xD. They do seem to get the solar/lunar energy from the mascots it seems (at least that's the only way one can explain them being version exclusive), so maybe the ultra forms of the mascots will allow them to have some of their own.
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Though... what if the Lyranrocs we have now get new forms? Like Ultra Midday Lycanroc xD. They do seem to get the solar/lunar energy from the mascots it seems (at least that's the only way one can explain them being version exclusive), so maybe the ultra forms of the mascots will allow them to have some of their own.
I'm sure the Lycanroc we saw in the announcement trailer was just a standard Midday Form Lycanroc. Also, remember that the Lycanroc forms aren't interchangeable.
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Maybe we will have a Eclipse form Lycanroc, who knows. I would love that.
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I'm pretty sure we'll get new forms for Lycanroc and Mimikyu at the very least.
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I'm sure the Lycanroc we saw in the announcement trailer was just a standard Midday Form Lycanroc. Also, remember that the Lycanroc forms aren't interchangeable.
I didn't say anything about either of those things :/. Just speculating about their current forms being given ultra forms. I actually saw some youtubers with the same idea a few days ago xD.
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Like Gardy said, my likely guess is just Solgaleo and Lunala being the only new forms of this game. But you know, I could be surprised if something unexpected gets revealed, like what happened with the Therian Formes of the Forces of Nature trio in B2/W2.
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Like Gardy said, my likely guess is just Solgaleo and Lunala being the only new forms of this game. But you know, I could be surprised if something unexpected gets revealed, like what happened with the Therian Formes of the Forces of Nature trio in B2/W2.
Which Pokemon do you think would be eligible for that kind of "Therian Forme" treatment, though? Honestly, with all of them being in kind of a shell - and as the only other Legendaries - I think the Island Guardians might have Awakened Formes or something for when the Ultra Beasts appear...that'd be nice, and it'd expand on their role in the games, too.

...I can't be the only one who was annoyed we didn't get to see Tapu Koko fight Pheromosa...

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Which Pokemon do you think would be eligible for that kind of "Therian Forme" treatment, though? Honestly, with all of them being in kind of a shell - and as the only other Legendaries - I think the Island Guardians might have Awakened Formes or something for when the Ultra Beasts appear...that'd be nice, and it'd expand on their role in the games, too.

...I can't be the only one who was annoyed we didn't get to see Tapu Koko fight Pheromosa...
I'd probably say either the Tapus or Ultra Beasts, since I know Marshadow has a "form" where its body parts turn green but that doesn't count because that's only when it's doing stuff like its signature Z-Move.

There was also that original colouring of Magearna that resembled the regular Poke Ball colours, so maybe we could see that becoming available in US/UM via an event.
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I'd probably say either the Tapus or Ultra Beasts, since I know Marshadow has a "form" where its body parts turn green but that doesn't count because that's only when it's doing stuff like its signature Z-Move.

There was also that original colouring of Magearna that resembled the regular Poke Ball colours, so maybe we could see that becoming available in US/UM via an event.
I can't see the UBs getting alternate formes honestly; they don't strike me as being similar to Giratina where they would take on a different forme in their own dimension, and given their already wacky and varied designs giving them a redesign seems a bit counterproductive. It's possible - especially with USUM having that "Ultra" theme to it - but it doesn't seem likely, since they're generally not portrayed as being actual Pokemon as we understand them, so giving them formes - something other Pokemon have - would seem a bit strange.

Magearna isn't a new thing, though...although admittedly it WOULD make sense to have it in US/UM, since there is no way to change between its formes.

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Since a 3rd form is already confirmed for Lycanroc, given the form name I'm sure that there will also be a 4th form... Dawn Form Lycanroc, maybe?

I also think that Rotom will get another form and that Rotom Pokdex can be used in battle to level-up just to obtain the National Pokdex...
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I would like a male Salandit evolution, but probably not going to happen.
I'd like to see this happen more than any forme change.

Something like that probably wouldn't happen until a new gen though.
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Why would we get a Male Salandit evolution? Combee has no male evolution yet and was introduced all the way back in Gen 4.

I agree that a Dawn form for Lycanroc makes sense given the English name of the new orange form.
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Based on the amount of placeholder data we noticed earlier on in the generation, I won't be surprised if there's NOT a Dawn form for Lycanroc. While it would make logical sense based on the name and the fact that we have a complex time system with multiple phases, it wouldn't be the first time Game Freak has seemingly left something out or failed to complete a circle of sorts. Just as an example, all the types that were originally special have an eeveelution - except Dragon.

However, based on that same placeholder data, I think it's pretty likely that we'll get a new Mimikyu form. But what could it be? It's lore establishes its immense jealousy of Pikachu being the basis for the disguise in the first place - so if it's based on another Pokmon, it has to be something really popular. Could it be its "true" form instead, with a different ability? Maybe even differently distributed stats?

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Based on the amount of placeholder data we noticed earlier on in the generation, I won't be surprised if there's NOT a Dawn form for Lycanroc. While it would make logical sense based on the name and the fact that we have a complex time system with multiple phases, it wouldn't be the first time Game Freak has seemingly left something out or failed to complete a circle of sorts. Just as an example, all the types that were originally special have an eeveelution - except Dragon.

However, based on that same placeholder data, I think it's pretty likely that we'll get a new Mimikyu form. But what could it be? It's lore establishes its immense jealousy of Pikachu being the basis for the disguise in the first place - so if it's based on another Pokmon, it has to be something really popular. Could it be its "true" form instead, with a different ability? Maybe even differently distributed stats?
Most theories point to it being a true form if it does get one.

Seeing Lycanroc getting new forms gives me hope of more Oricorio forms (and new islands) :3.
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From what I am seeing, I don't think that there will be a Dawn Lycanroc, not only does the Japanese name translate to Twilight Lycanroc, the French, Italian and Spanish names call it Crepuscular Lycanroc and the German calls it Twilight Lycanroc. For some reason I think that the Dusk form might have been a mistranslation, but I do enjoy the Dusk Lycanroc. If I had to guess, two of its abilities would be Vital Spirit and Steadfast and that Keen Eye will be replaced either with an existing ability or a new ability in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. After all, they did add new abilities and moves in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire.