5qwerty

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The Dual-Generation Tournament
Tournament and Format
Welcome to The Dual-Generation Tournament! As the name suggests, participants must use Pokmon from two different generations of Pokmon to create a team of six. Like most other tournaments with minor modifications, the matches are to be played in the [Gen 7] OU Tier.

Now, there still remain some issues with the format that have to be cleared up:
  • The teams will consists of three Pokmon from one generation and three from a different generation.
  • Splitting two/four or one/five is not allowed.
  • You can switch up teams between games/matches.
  • You do not have to stick to the same two generations.
  • Alolan Forms count as Gen 7.
  • Mega Evolutions count as the generation the base Pokmon was introduced in.
  • Ash-Greninja's base form is Greninja, so it counts as Gen 6.
  • As a general rule, Alternate Formes belong to the generation they were introduced in.
  • For example, Zygarde-50% counts as Gen 6, but Zygarde-10% would count as Gen 7.
  • Again, standard OU rules and clauses apply.

Tournament Rules
  • Battles can be held on the PokCommunity Battle Server or on Pokmon Showdown Main.
  • The tournament is Single Elimination and is also a Best Two out of Three.
  • You MUST post all replays as proof of your victory or loss.
  • You may be disqualified for using an illegal team.

Participants:

Matchups:

Round 1:
Spoiler:
  • Dragon vs Bye
  • gimmepie vs punkysaur (1 2)
  • Aaron vs Volty Shocks
  • FireSnow vs Beatbox (1 2)
  • wolf vs Bye
  • Sam1994 vs Noa (12)
  • Choice Specs vs Omicron (12)
  • Decidueye vs Kostas (12)


Round 2:
  • Dragon vs gimmepie (1 2)
  • Aaron vs FireSnow (1 2)
  • wolf vs Sam1994 (1 2)
  • Choice Specs vs Kostas (1 2)

Semis:
(Choice Specs was selected to move on due to Kostas dropping out)
  • Dragon vs FireSnow (1 2 3)
  • wolf vs Choice Specs (1 2)

Finals:
  • Dragon vs wolf (1 2 3)

Mini-Guide:

OU Pokes: (note: you are not limited to only OU Pokes!)
Spoiler:
Gen 1:
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Gen 2:
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Gen 3:
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Gen 4:
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Gen 5:


Gen 6:


Gen 7:



Tips:
Spoiler:
  • A lot of the OU Tier are in Gens 5 and 7, so expect many people to pick these two Gens.
  • The downside of going Gen 5/Gen 7 is that your only Mega Pokmon option is Mega Audino.
  • Gens 1 and 2 have a lot of Megas, so choose one of the two depending on which Mega you want to use.
  • Gen 6 is a very good choice as well despite having few Pokmon, as Greninja and Zygarde are both very strong at the moment.
  • Stall enthusiasts can choose Gens 1 and 2 since Skarmory, Chansey, Clefable, and Dugtrio are in those two Generations. Though, the lack of Mega Sableye may be too much.



wolf

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in
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Dragon

lover of milotics

Age 30
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Viridian City
Seen 18 Hours Ago
Posted October 24th, 2022
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9.7 Years
Sure I'll join~


"Let the fools who stand before me be destroyed by the power you and I possess...
DRAGON SLAVE!"

gimmepie

Age 27
Male
Australia
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Posted 1 Day Ago
5qwerty won't let my family go unless I join, so I'm in.
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noa

sleeping cutie

Age 30
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Seattle
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Posted July 20th, 2020
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5qwerty

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Hi guys, a few quick updates.

1) My goal is to have at least 16 people join the tournament, we'll see whether that happens or not.
2) I WILL be doing some sort of seeding for this tournament. The reasoning for this is because I feel like players who generally place higher in tournaments should not have to face each other early in a tournament. I'm preparing to do some seeding based on previous tournament performance.
3) I will also post a mini-compendium or guide-esque thing here that makes it easier for participants to teambuild. I think I should have done this before posting the tournament, so apologies to everyone.

ddrox13

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Posted August 7th, 2021
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In using 4 and... uhhh... YOU'LL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH
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5qwerty

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Ok, I'm gonna cut the number of entrants at 16, which means there are 2 spots left.

Also, I sorted the OU tier by generation: (note: you are not limited to only OU Pokes!) It's also in the first post.
Spoiler:
Gen 1:
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Gen 2:
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Gen 3:
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Gen 4:
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Gen 5:


Gen 6:


Gen 7:

5qwerty

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Notifications:
Spoiler:
in
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In coz I'll be free I guess! :)
In
Hi
Sure I'll join~
In for a double generation bang!
I'm in!
I'll join in, should be fun!
5qwerty won't let my family go unless I join, so I'm in.
in
Hi this is Rabinov signing up and getting ready to smash you all with Generations 2 & 3.
In using 4 and... uhhh... YOU'LL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH
I would love to join, gonna bring my favorite gen pride into this tournament :P

Hi all, I got the registration deadline late by 1 day, so apologies to all for the delay.

I tried seeding by calculating ELO for everyone based on PCL signup tour and PCL weeks. The reason I did not work with the RU or LC tours is because of two reasons:
1. I don't feel that RU or LC are very relevant for this tournament, seeing as it is OU.
2. The data from the RU and LC tournaments are not very well documented in the threads, and it would be too much of a hassle (in addition to the burden I've already put on myself) to go and collect the data.

However with the PCL data, I feel like the it isn't very representative of true skill, as some players may have only played one or two weeks but have higher ELO due to winning those one or two weeks. I turned to ELO because looking at match/game win percentage presents a similar problem, and I thought that ELO would give me the results that I wanted.

In the end I decided to seed based on a combination of ELO, match-weighted win percentage, and game-weighted win percentage. Weight is based on square root of games/matches played. After seeding, the seeds are as follows in the Spoiler below. The last four seeds, 11-14, were randomly generated. If you are not pleased with your seed, please keep in mind that this is all based on data and algorithms of some sort. If anyone is curious, hit me up and I can send you the spreadsheet.
Spoiler:
1. Dragon
2. wolf
3. Choice Specs
4. Aaron
5. FireSnow
6. Decidueye
7. Sam1994
8. gimmepie
9. punkysaur
10. Noa
11. Kostas
12. Beatbox
13. Volty Shocks
14. Omicron


Thus, the Bracket is the following:


EDIT: Ok, I'm stupid and forgot to broadcast the deadline for round one. It will be June 28th, 11:59pm EST. Please get your matches done before then.

FireSnow

Show me that Fighting Spirit

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Seen August 20th, 2021
Posted October 3rd, 2020
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won 2-0 over Beatbox

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266476
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266478

gg good sir

ddrox13

Anti-Nonsense

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(un)Surprisingly, Kostas' team of which 4/6 members had STAB super effective to Ice managed to beat my Hail team 2-0. GGs!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266810
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokecommunity-gen7ou-266811

EDIT: It has come to my attention that only 3 members of his team carried STAB SE moves. But does it matter?
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5qwerty

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ping
ping
Although neither of you made your best efforts to communicate with each other (sending visitor messages 2 days after the tournament was posted), I will have to disqualify Volty Shocks if you guys don't finish your battles in 22 hours. The reason is because Volty Shocks has not logged on in over 24 hours. However, if Aaron fails to show up at the time that he set, I will have to think of something else - probably coin flip.