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Old May 24th, 2005 (5:45 PM).
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Salamance-shell bell
Hyper Beam
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Fly

Milotic-leftovers
Ice Beam
Mirror Coat
Recover
Surf

Jolteon-magnet
Thunder
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave
Double Team

Steelix-soft sand
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Crunch
Iron Tail

Gengar-focus band
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Confuse Ray
Destiny Bond

Shiftery-quick claw
Extrasensory
Faint Attack
Giga Drain
Swagger

all i really need to know is what to change in this lineup(moves, pokemon, items) all my pokemon are level 100 and can be changed with anything else. please tell me what to change, also i dont want to use any legendarys or pokemon like latios/latias.
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Old May 24th, 2005 (11:29 PM).
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thats fine team if they alll at L.V 100 why change and also why not use any legendarys?
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Old May 25th, 2005 (12:26 AM).
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im not that good at ingame so there...

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Salamance-shell bell
crunch
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
hydro pump

Milotic-leftovers
Ice Beam
Mirror Coat
Recover
Surf

Jolteon--brightpowder
(any hp thats a special type will do, if not, bite does fine)
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave
Double Team

Steelix-leftovers
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Explosion
Iron Tail

Gengar-leftovers/shellbell/brightpowder
Sludge Bomb
Shadow Ball
Substitute
Destiny Bond

Shiftery-quick claw
Sunny Day
Explosion
Solar Beam
if u have hp fire thats perfect, use it. but since its probably not,faint attack is fine

all i really need to know is what to change in this lineup(moves, pokemon, items) all my pokemon are level 100 and can be changed with anything else. please tell me what to change, also i dont want to use any legendarys or pokemon like latios/latias.
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Old May 26th, 2005 (5:25 PM).
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I can help you if you say the abilities of each poke
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Old May 27th, 2005 (4:47 AM).
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You've got a fine team and you should have no trouble becoming a master so leave your pokemon the way they are unless you want to change them yourself.
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Old May 27th, 2005 (5:43 AM).
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for ingame your team's fine, except take thunder off of jolteon and replace it with a hidden power (special type). if this is netbattle than you should change it:

salamence
~rock slide
~earthquake
~dragon dance
~flamethrower/fire blast

milotic's okay

jolteon
~thunderbolt
~hp grass
~substitute
~baton pass

steelix
~earthquake
~rock slide
~explosion
~iron tail

gengar has many options, just look at other gengars for ideas and get the one you like.

i don't know about shiftry, i've never had one.

it's a really good team, overall
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Old May 27th, 2005 (7:34 AM).
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Salamance-Leftovers/Choice Band
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Dragon Dance/Aerial Ace
Fire Blast

Good at both CBer and DDer, drop Dragon Dance if you want to use Choice Band.

Milotic-Leftovers
Ice Beam
Mirror Coat
Recover
Surf

Standard.

Jolteon-Petaya Berry
Thunderbolt
Subtitute
Baton Pass
Agility

It does great job as baton passer.

Steelix-Leftovers
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Toxic
Explosion

Toxic, sweep and boom if needed.

Gengar-Leftovers
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Confuse Ray

Special sweeper.

Shiftry-Lum Berry
Swagger
Psych Up
Brick Break
Shadow Ball

Swagger 'em, then Psych Up...and then, start having fun.

all i really need to know is what to change in this lineup(moves, pokemon, items) all my pokemon are level 100 and can be changed with anything else. please tell me what to change, also i dont want to use any legendarys or pokemon like latios/latias.
That's all I can do. xD
Hope the team work well for you.
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Old May 27th, 2005 (5:30 PM).
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Salamance-shell bell
Hyper Beam - HP Flying/Aerial Ace
Dragon Claw - Dragon DACE
Flamethrower
Fly - EQ

Milotic-leftovers
Ice Beam
Mirror Coat
Recover
Surf

Jolteon-magnet The 10% boost moves dun help at all, use lefties/petaya/salac instead
Thunder
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave
Double Team

DT= N00by... Tbolt and thunder is repetetive, stick with tbolt alone.
Thunderbolt, Thunderwave/Agility, Subtstitute, BP/Hiddenpowergrass


Steelix-soft sand- Lefites
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Crunch
Iron Tail

Gengar-focus band uhhh.... hmm.... leichi? you'll need that attack to pull off focuspunch... ur special is high enough for the specialz
Psychic Sub
Shadow Ball[b] Focuspunch
Confuse Ray icepunch
Destiny Bond psychic/sludgebomb/shadowball

Shiftery-quick claw
Extrasensory
Faint Attack
Giga Drain
Swagger

all i really need to know is what to change in this lineup(moves, pokemon, items) all my pokemon are level 100 and can be changed with anything else. please tell me what to change, also i dont want to use any legendarys or pokemon like latios/latias.

In game not bad... but competetive, needs some work... i didn't really know what to do with shiftry cus its more of UU and i haven't really had much experience with it.
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Old May 29th, 2005 (7:23 PM).
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Salamance-shell bell
Hyper Beam-NO use EQ/rock slide
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Fly-unless he is flier use Double edge/AA

Milotic-leftovers
Ice Beam
Mirror Coat/refresh
Recover
Surf
Great i have never used a milotic but I would've given him this moveset
Jolteon-magnet
Thunder- no u already have t-bolt which is better instead try Hp. ice/water/grass
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave- if u want baton pass use agility/dt oterwise fine
Double Team- no try sub/baton pass

Steelix-soft sand
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Crunch -may not work try explosion/protect
Iron Tail

Gengar-focus band-No give gengar lefties
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Confuse Ray-try t-bolt
Destiny Bond-try ice punch

Shiftery-quick claw
Extrasensory
Faint Attack
Giga Drain
Swagger-instead try sunny day
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Old May 30th, 2005 (2:31 AM).
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Salamance-shell bell
Hyper Beam-NO use EQ/rock slide
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Fly-unless he is flier use Double edge/AA

Milotic-leftovers
Ice Beam
Mirror Coat/refresh
Recover
Surf
Great i have never used a milotic but I would've given him this moveset
Jolteon-magnet
Thunder- no u already have t-bolt which is better instead try Hp. ice/water/grass
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave- if u want baton pass use agility/dt oterwise fine
Double Team- no try sub/baton pass

Steelix-soft sand
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Crunch -may not work try explosion/protect
Iron Tail

Gengar-focus band-No give gengar lefties
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Confuse Ray-try t-bolt
Destiny Bond-try ice punch

Shiftery-quick claw
Extrasensory
Faint Attack
Giga Drain
Swagger-instead try sunny day


ABOUT MILOTIC, i think refresh is not suitable for milotic because of its Marvel Scale(add defend when get status problem)so it can solve milotic's weak defend problem, why must we recover the status problem?
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Old May 30th, 2005 (2:37 AM).
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Old May 30th, 2005 (3:02 AM).
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Well I dont think you should Crunch on Steelix coz he doesnt have very high SP ATK.
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Old May 31st, 2005 (11:29 AM).
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Here is what I have to say:
Salamence: replace Fly with AA

Milotic: D Claw if possible(Hyper Beam if not)

Jolty: Replace Thunder with Dig
OR Replace T/Bolt with Rain Dance

Steelix: good no change needed
I would try BGlasses for the item

Gengar: needs focused
Either make it a mixed sweeper
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Psychic
Shadow Ball
T/Bolt
I/Punch

or make it have an drain moveset
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Mean Look
Curse
Nightmare

Shiftry-Designed to be on a Sun team
So...
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EXSensory
Sunny Day
Solarbeam
Synthesis if possible (Ft Attack if not)
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Old May 31st, 2005 (1:00 PM).
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Salamance-shell bell
Hyper Beam
Dragon Claw
Flamethrower
Fly
Get rid of Hyper Beam. Really, it's not entirely useful (especially on a team focused on specials) unless the Pokemon in question has stellar HP and defenses, as well as possibly a nature that can actually make use of the recharge turn (such as Truant).

Also, Fly's going to leave a mark on your Salamence. Basically, if you use Fly, you go up on one turn, right? Well, your opponent (which I assume is human, as one doesn't normally ask for their team to be rated unless they're going with player vs. player battles) will predict that you're going to use Fly and will switch to something that typically has a move that can abuse your Salamence's weaknesses as well as take the damage of your move (which isn't entirely much). That leaves your Salamence wide open to be smacked, especially with an Ice move or even a Rock or Electric move.

The standard moveset for Salamence, by the way, usually involves an Adamant (Leftovers-weilding) Salamence, Dragon Dance, and three moves that rely on Attack -- sometimes Aerial Ace, Earthquake, and Rock Slide/Brick Break. (For Netbattle, replace AA with Hidden Power Flying, though.)

If you want to take advantage of STAB, you could also go with this moveset:

Modest @ Leftovers
-Dragon Claw
-Hydro Pump
-Fire Blast
-Crunch OR HP Grass/Electric

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Milotic-leftovers
Ice Beam
Mirror Coat
Recover
Surf
I think this one is fairly standard.

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Jolteon-magnet
Thunder
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave
Double Team
1. Chuck Magnet. Given Jolt's S Attack, it's not going to benefit you. (Type boosters -- such as Magnet, Charcoal, Mystic Water, et cetera -- really only boost attacks by a small amount.)

2. Don't put two offensive moves of the same type on a moveset, especially when they do pretty much the same thing. (Thunder and TBolt, for example, both deal out a decent amount of damage and have a chance of paralysis. The only difference is their accuracies and their base damage, which actually put them at about the same level anyways.) Choose one or the other. If you prefer power and don't mind if it'll miss roughly one in every four to five usages, go with Thunder. Otherwise, choose Thunderbolt.

The problem with most Electric Pokemon, though is their lack of move versatility. Most of them have great S Attacks, but no way to use them. Jolteon is such a Pokemon, unfortunately, so you really don't have much to put in the last slot save for maybe HP Ice (paired with Thunderbolt) or maybe Rain Dance (to benefit Thunder). I suggest going with HP Ice and Thunderbolt, though.

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Steelix-soft sand
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Crunch
Iron Tail
Again, ditch Soft Sand and decide whether you want to lean towards specials or physicals.

That said, your standard Steelix (according to a friend of mine on another board, at least -- never raised a Steelix meself) is this:

Impish @ Leftovers
-Double-Edge/Rock Slide
-Roar
-Earthquake
-Rest/Explosion

Thus, you've got not only a Pokemon that can withstand a few good attacks (provided you put most of your EPs in HP and S Defense) as well as at least half of the most used status inducers (namely T Wave and Toxic). You've also got a good pHazer, which will come in handy for the defense.

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Gengar-focus band
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Confuse Ray
Destiny Bond
Cute. A DB/FB combo.

The rest might not actually work since you're dividing your attention (read: EPs) again due to the fact that SB relies on Attack (Don't ask why.), whereas Psychic is a special. Thus, you'll want to decide what your Pokemon wants to rely on more. (Granted, you could try both, but that really only works with a few Pokemon. I'm not sure if Gengar's one of them.)

That said, I've two sets for Gengar floating out there. One of them is an annoyer/desperation set, such as this:

Hasty @ Leftovers
-Destiny Bond/Substitute
-Perish Song
-Protect/Will-O-Wisp
-Mean Look

(ML, then Perish Song and Sub/Protect for the rest of the three turns. More of a desperation thing, really.)

The most common Gengar, however, is a Subpuncher people like to call the "McGengar," as it's pretty generic/overused:

Hasty @ Leftovers
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Punch
-Ice Punch/Shadow Ball (Depends on which version you're working with.)
-Substitute

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Shiftery-quick claw
Extrasensory
Faint Attack
Giga Drain
Swagger
You know, you've managed to pull off settling on one offense or the other, but there's just one problem:

Even with confusion on the side, you're boosting your enemy's ability to beat the living daylights out of your Shiftry with one of its weaknesses (especially, say, a Brick Break/Focus Punch or an Aerial Ace).

That aside, usually, you've got a Shiftry that looks like this:

@ Leftovers
-Sunny Day
-Explosion
-Solarbeam
-Synthesis <-- Mainly for after using SDay, of course.

Fairly standard. Fairly popular.

Overally, you've got a lot of attackers but not too many Pokemon that serve in other positions. The problem is that attackers were good enough for in-game purposes, but against another player, you'll have a very difficult time. You might benefit from making Hazers (Pokemon that know Haze), Spikers, or special/physical sweepers. You've got the Pokemon to do some of those jobs. You just need to consider trying to make them fill a position or two.

Good luck.
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