Potential Number of PKMN in the Dex...

Started by destinedjagold September 21st, 2017 1:04 AM
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...is around 400? That's around half the total number of Pokémon unless GF added 100+ more in USM nah I'm just kidding they wouldn't do that or would they dun dun duuun.

In my opinion, that's a nice number. The SM 'dex only has around 300 'mons. :3

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Sounds good to me.

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Interesting considering how there were already a lot of Pokémon available in Alola to begin with. In USUM, Rockruff's dex number has been changed from 103 to 126 which means we should probably expect a handful of different Pokémon available right from the start.
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So 19 pokemon have been addeded before Rockruff's number. We had 300 in the last Dex, so at least 100 pokemon have been added.

That supports the theory that we will be getting more Alolans. And probably a few more ultra beasts. I am going to assume there will be a few new islands, which is why so many pokemon have been added.

I got to wonder what they will add at the start. Melemele already has a ton of low level pokemon. A good variety between generations as well. Oddish line is the only one I can think of atm, but I'd think that would be more for Akala,
So depending on version exclusives, we *might* have almost every Pokemon available in Gen VII, sans the Legendaries they're too anal to include in the games and keep to time-restricted Wifi events.

I can live with this, if so. Having Pokebank pushed on me as the only means of getting older Pokemon really rubs me the wrong way as a concept, and it seems unlikely we'll get more Gen VII titles, so this would be nice.

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It would be nice, better than 300, but still ridiculously easy to complete and get the Shiny Charm. I wonder why they're making it that much more accessible

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I wonder why they're making it that much more accessible
I think VC Gold & Silver has an influence on that number since they're compatible with Bank. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more Johto Pokémon were available in USUM and even possibly have new Alolan forms.

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I think VC Gold & Silver has an influence on that number since they're compatible with Bank. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot more Johto Pokémon were available in USUM and even possibly have new Alolan forms.
New Alolan formes would be sooooooo great. This is like, my only hopes for USUM. I'm not the most hyped person about this game but Johto Alola formes would be enough for me, since Johto was my first region <3

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Adding another 100 to the pokedex would be a slightly better challenge than just the 300 in Su/Mo to complete the pokedex, but considering I just finished completing the pokedex last Monday and I started trying to complete the pokedex about a week and a half ago... I would say adding another 100 would require maybe 1 more week of effort(?).

My biggest hope is what others have already mentioned is providing the National Pokedex, if I have to collect 800 instead of just 400 that would probably keep me busy for at least a few months. (There are still some really cool older Legendary pokemon I haven't gotten my hands on yet so that would end up being a continuous challenge.)
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So, if there's now several other Pokemon taking up slots before Rockruff's number in the new Alola Dex it seems to confirm that like B2/W2 there will be several older Pokemon added to the Dex, along with the recent confirmation of new Ultra Beasts.

The new slots could also mean possible new Alola Forms, since there was a lot of Pokemon that I feel could have had a missed opportunity for an Alola Form and the fact the original batch were 1st Gen Pokemon was probably nothing more than fanservice for the 20th anniversary.
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The new slots could also mean possible new Alola Forms, since there was a lot of Pokemon that I feel could have had a missed opportunity for an Alola Form and the fact the original batch were 1st Gen Pokemon was probably nothing more than fanservice for the 20th anniversary.
I sincerly hope they will bring more Alola formes, just like ORAS brought more Mega Evolutions. They seem to abandon a lot of their new mechanics as time goes by so I hope Alola formes won't fall into oblivion; it's a way to fall in love with older Pokémon all over again.
Looks like more work for a Shiny Charm.
Still better than 721 in X/Y and ORAS :P It was doable, but long. In SuMo I just spammed the GTS for a week and completed the dex. 3 times. :/
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I sincerly hope they will bring more Alola formes, just like ORAS brought more Mega Evolutions. They seem to abandon a lot of their new mechanics as time goes by so I hope Alola formes won't fall into oblivion; it's a way to fall in love with older Pokémon all over again.


Still better than 721 in X/Y and ORAS :P It was doable, but long. In SuMo I just spammed the GTS for a week and completed the dex. 3 times. :/
You're definitely right about Gen 6 pokedex's. I haven't even gotten back to it because there's still so much left. : ( You must have been trading the absolute best cause even with the Gts it took me awhile. I'm still in pain from trying to catch Corsola and Mareanie as well.
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You're definitely right about Gen 6 pokedex's. I haven't even gotten back to it because there's still so much left. : ( You must have been trading the absolute best cause even with the Gts it took me awhile. I'm still in pain from trying to catch Corsola and Mareanie as well.
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So depending on version exclusives, we *might* have almost every Pokemon available in Gen VII
Keep in mind there will probably be new Pokemon catchable via the QR/Island Scan feature as well, and those weren't included in the regional pokedex.

So it's possible that they could throw in any leftover regular mons into that feature or another post-game area.
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Well, here's my trick, not sure how lucky I was but that's how I do it: I catch Pokémon at stage one, train them to fully evolve them. Then, I put them in the GTS where the demand is higher for a fully evolved Pokémon, and I ask for a stage 1 Pokémon. They grow up faster because I'm not the OT. Rince and repeat. While I'm training I check the GTS from time to time, usually I get my Pokémon quickly enough. Also, Wonder Trade all my breedjects or unpopular GTS Pokémon, to get rareball Pokémon. Those also are very popular in the GTS, so I never had to catch Corsola or Castform myself.
Sounds way easier then how I went about it. I'll try this from now on. And yeah wondertrading was a huge help (wasn't to happy when someone wondertraded me a Mareanie after I had finally found it) overall.
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Keep in mind there will probably be new Pokemon catchable via the QR/Island Scan feature as well, and those weren't included in the regional pokedex.

So it's possible that they could throw in any leftover regular mons into that feature or another post-game area.
Ooh, I didn't think about that! That means more possible Apricorn Ball Pokémon. Maybe every Pokémon will be catchable in Apricorn Ball with the possible upcoming Island Scan! ...if they don't remove it
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I guess this would make Magearna 401 and Marshadow 402. So a regional dex between the sizes of the Gen III and IV National Dexes.
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This pretty cool. I wonder if they'll just fit the new ultra beasts in with the old ones, or just add them afterwards. I'll be pretty disappointed 400 pokemon are just the original Alolan dex of 300 + the island scan pokemon + new/extra pokemon. I want the dex to be at least slight different ala the difference between BW and BW2.
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I won't mind the small buff.
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I think that they'll place the Ultra Beasts close to each other. If not then I can see the new ones coming after Necrozma (as it, Solgaleo, and Lunala are UBs themselves) but not Magearna and Marshadow (in the regional dex that is).

I won't mind the small buff.
Tbvh Alola was the first time I ever bothered getting the Shiny Charm (When you have such encouraging Rotom, you can't help it too!).
I hope to complete it this time with Ultra Moon :).

Edit: I just thought of a reason for why SM lacked a national dex. That reason is that GF planned to add new mons and wanted the legendaries and mythicals to remain at the end of the dex. For example, Necrozma isn't really Pokemon#800 in the national dex like we all were expecting/thought.
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400 seems fine enough for me! :o I wonder what additional Pokemon they're bringing over to Alola this time around?
Well, based on trailers (another new one just came out) here's the older Pokemon that so far seem to be getting added to the New Alola Dex:

Mareep, Flaaffy, Ampharos, Mantine, Houndour, Houndoom, Larvitar, Pupitar, Tyranitar, Electrike, Manectric, Tropius, Mantyke, Zorua, Zoroark, Mienfoo, Mienshao, Larvesta, Volcarona, Inkay, Malamar.

Edit: Dedenne and Heracross seem to have been confirmed in the new Japanese trailer as well.
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Well, based on trailers (another new one just came out) here's the older Pokemon that so far seem to be getting added to the New Alola Dex:

Mareep, Flaaffy, Ampharos, Mantine, Houndour, Houndoom, Larvitar, Pupitar, Tyranitar, Electrike, Manectric, Tropius, Mantyke, Zorua, Zoroark, Mienfoo, Mienshao, Larvesta, Volcarona, Inkay, Malamar.

Edit: Dedenne and Heracross seem to have been confirmed in the new Japanese trailer as well.
I think it's been said already but you could make a strong case for Remoraid and Octillery since Mantyke needs Remoraid to evolve into Mantine.

Also, I'd love to see Mienfoo/Mienshao added to the regional dex. That's one Unova pokemon I've wanted to get around to using. Larvesta too but it evolves at a really late level which is annoying.
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Also, I'd love to see Mienfoo/Mienshao added to the regional dex. That's one Unova pokemon I've wanted to get around to using. Larvesta too but it evolves at a really late level which is annoying.
The English trailer covering Necrozma's new forms did show it using Solgaleo and Lunala's signature moves and the Pokemon shown being hit by the moves was a Mienfoo.
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