Unown_

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As some of you may or may not know, Internet Explorer (IE) doesn't support PNG semi-transparency.

I'm currently creating an image gallery which uses a semi-transparency PNG background for the image selector. The trick I pulled out is to have Javascript to detect Internet Explorer and have it use an alternative (IE-only) method to gain the semi-transparency-ness on Internet Explorer.

On the net most scripts check for the existance of document.all to determine if the visitor is using IE. However Konqueror on my Linux machine seems to support document.all too and I've read that Opera does the same. So much for detecting IE...

To keep the whole story short: I think I found a new way to only detect IE, but I'm not 100% certain if it is error-proof. Would some of you people mind test the image gallery? I'm especially curious of the results of Opera-, Safari- and AOL-users.

This is the image gallery that I would like to be tested.

This is how it should NOT look like
This is how it should look like

If the page display as the "should not look like"-picture, I would like to know in which browser this happend.

Thanks in advanced...
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Is it supposed to have a background? If so, it doesn't show up in IE, FireFox, or Mozilla. I'll see if it does in Konqueror and Mozilla on Knoppix and get back to you.

Edit: Nope, still no background in either one. Maybe you should check that out.

Unown_

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Is it supposed to have a background? If so, it doesn't show up in IE, FireFox, or Mozilla. I'll see if it does in Konqueror and Mozilla on Knoppix and get back to you.
When you enter the site, you need to click on one of the thumbnails in the menu. The menu itself will disappear.
After the full size picture has been loaded, you need to click on that image. This will make the menu reappear and it should have a semi-transparent background.
Sorry that I wasn't clear about that.
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Ah, ok. Now I've got it working in Moz (both Windows and Linux), FF, and IE, but it ends up freezing Konqureror on my comp. Then again, I just started using Linux this morning, so it may be my fault with something there.

But, yeah, it works well in everything I've got. I'll nab Opera and see how it goes.

Opera's fine as well. I think you have one that works extremely well with all platforms.

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Works well in Firefox and IE. So what are you using for the browser detection? I'm too lazy to check the code xP
This is basically what is in my script:
if(typeof(document.body.style.filter) == "string")
{
	alert("you are using IE");
}
else
{
	alert("you are not using IE");
}
Internet Explorer is the only one who has the CSS attribute "filter" (it is used to call "progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Alpha(...)". Every browser except IE will return the datatype "undefined" because it's a IE-only thing. IE on the other hand will return a string as datatype. The snippet above simply checks what kind of datatype is being returned.

@Yameneko549: thank you for helping me test it.
Now, all that remains are Safari and AOL...
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I can't tell you about Safari, but the AOL software uses an integrated version of IE so should be the same as IE, much like wraparounds like Avant and CrazyBrowser~

Oh, and just OOI, where did you get the images? *want*


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Albert Einstein

"What science can there be more noble, more excellent, more useful for men, more admirably high and demonstrative than mathematics."
Benjamin Franklin

"Mathematics, rightly viewed, possesses not only truth, but supreme beauty – a beauty cold and austere, like that of sculpture, without appeal to any part of our weaker nature, without the gorgeous trappings of paintings or music, yet sublimely pure and capable of a stern perfection such as only the greatest art can show."
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Hmm... for me in Opera, it's showing a black background and none of the thumbnails. o.O (I've got a pretty old version, though)

EDIT: Works in Netscape for me.
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I can't tell you about Safari, but the AOL software uses an integrated version of IE so should be the same as IE, much like wraparounds like Avant and CrazyBrowser~

Oh, and just OOI, where did you get the images? *want*
So that's why I could only find an AOL toolbar. If AOL is just using the IE rendering engine I guess it should work just fine.
Safari is a browser that is only availible on Apple computers but I just found out that Safari uses the same rendering engine as Konqueror. So it should be fine too.

I think it's safe to say that the image gallery can be displayed by modern browsers. Thanks everyone for their effort.

@Jedi_Amara: the images are mostly compilations of pan shots from the anime.
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So that's why I could only find an AOL toolbar. If AOL is just using the IE rendering engine I guess it should work just fine.
Safari is a browser that is only availible on Apple computers but I just found out that Safari uses the same rendering engine as Konqueror. So it should be fine too.

I think it's safe to say that the image gallery can be displayed by modern browsers. Thanks everyone for their effort.

@Jedi_Amara: the images are mostly compilations of pan shots from the anime.
I'd love to try it in Lynx. XD

Thanks Unown_, do you know where I might be able to source them for use on my site? I have the DVDs but no DVD drive in my computer XD


"One reason why mathematics enjoys special esteem, above all other sciences, is that its laws are absolutely certain and indisputable, while those of other sciences are to some extent debatable and in constant danger of being overthrown by newly discovered facts."
Albert Einstein

"What science can there be more noble, more excellent, more useful for men, more admirably high and demonstrative than mathematics."
Benjamin Franklin

"Mathematics, rightly viewed, possesses not only truth, but supreme beauty – a beauty cold and austere, like that of sculpture, without appeal to any part of our weaker nature, without the gorgeous trappings of paintings or music, yet sublimely pure and capable of a stern perfection such as only the greatest art can show."
Bertrand Russell

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I'd love to try it in Lynx. XD

Thanks Unown_, do you know where I might be able to source them for use on my site? I have the DVDs but no DVD drive in my computer XD
The site can be accessed from http://imgalbum.depokesite.vze.com/. Images on that site can be saved with the usual right-click "save image as..."
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Ah, so you don't mind me borrowing them? Thanks ^__________^


"One reason why mathematics enjoys special esteem, above all other sciences, is that its laws are absolutely certain and indisputable, while those of other sciences are to some extent debatable and in constant danger of being overthrown by newly discovered facts."
Albert Einstein

"What science can there be more noble, more excellent, more useful for men, more admirably high and demonstrative than mathematics."
Benjamin Franklin

"Mathematics, rightly viewed, possesses not only truth, but supreme beauty – a beauty cold and austere, like that of sculpture, without appeal to any part of our weaker nature, without the gorgeous trappings of paintings or music, yet sublimely pure and capable of a stern perfection such as only the greatest art can show."
Bertrand Russell

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Ah, don't worry, I don't hotlink without permission XD. I usually don't hotlink anyway~ You could try turning off hotlinking.


"One reason why mathematics enjoys special esteem, above all other sciences, is that its laws are absolutely certain and indisputable, while those of other sciences are to some extent debatable and in constant danger of being overthrown by newly discovered facts."
Albert Einstein

"What science can there be more noble, more excellent, more useful for men, more admirably high and demonstrative than mathematics."
Benjamin Franklin

"Mathematics, rightly viewed, possesses not only truth, but supreme beauty – a beauty cold and austere, like that of sculpture, without appeal to any part of our weaker nature, without the gorgeous trappings of paintings or music, yet sublimely pure and capable of a stern perfection such as only the greatest art can show."
Bertrand Russell

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