Haven't played sun/moon but zygarde seemed dumb b/c of glare. if i did play, i suspect i would hate toxapex because regenerator is a dumb ability and is the defensive side of the game's version of the more obvious offensive power creep coming in since gen 4/5. rewards sloppy play.
What's weird, for me anyway, is that I very rarely have actually come across Glare on Zygarde. The set I'm used to seeing is Thousand Arrows/Extreme Speed/Dragon Dance/Substitute or something like that. Personally, I didn't feel a ban was necessary but I have to admit that Thousand Arrows is crazy muk. Not that either Glare or Thousand Arrows on Zygarde will be much of an issue now that 50% is banned.
also, all gens: trappers. dumbest and most broken mechanic in the competitive game, and after playing a decade i think my only real hot take is magnet pull, arena trap, and shadow tag should be banned from basically everything. totally uncompetitive and while i respect something like magneton/zone acting as a sort of inherent type balance to steel and see why my opinion with that would be minority, things like advance dugtrio and xy gothitelle (before its oras ban) are/were always stupid. no fun to play against pokemon who prevent switching in a game whose primary skill element at a competitive level comes from switching. ugh.
Can't say I disagree. Although I think Magnezone and it's pre-evos are okay. What are your thoughts on Pursuit then?
Any Pokemon that can be a viable stall set:
Numerous of these are out there, I've never played the games of new gens but from PokeShowdown I know that Toxapex is a viable stallmon, as is gengar, sableye mega, etc.
If it can learn toxic, recover, protect, and willowisp all in one, then I hate going against it.
Protect and Recover for obvious reasons, and then toxic cant hit steel types, but willowisp can, toxic cant hit poison types, but willowisp can.
It's horrible to fight one of these things given how bulky they are.
The biggest stallmons I hate: Toxapex, Wobbuffet with Destiny Bond, and Gengar
Few mon run two different status moves because they eat up too many move slots and leave you vulnerable to taunt unless you're Sableye. I'm with you on Stall mons being a pain in the ass to face though.
I do have to say though, Wobb isn't a stall mon really and anyone running a stall Gengar deserves every loss they get. Gengar is way too frail to effectively stall.