Make your own starter trio!

Started by Captain Typhlosion April 1st, 2020 7:58 PM
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Has anyone else ever thought about what it’d be like to set up a starter trio for yourself with a different set up than the usual water vs fire vs grass?

I ponder this sometimes for my own enjoyment and wonder if you all have ideas of a trio of Pokémon you would make starters if you could make your own Pokémon game. So I figured, let’s have some fun with this. Please share your ideas for a trio of starters with the following requirements:

1. Can be any pokemon(minus legendaries and current starters) in any generation(can mix generations).

2. Use 3 types that are not the standard 3 types, though you can include one of the standard 3 types(ex. You could do water, ground, and electric).

3. Make sure types have symmetry against each other(the standard rock-paper-scissors format). You can use dual types too as long as they have symmetry between all the types(like the gen 6 starters, a tall order, I know, though not impossible).

4. Try to pick Pokémon with the same number of evolutions(ex all 3 starters should be in a 2 evolution line or all in a 3 evolution line, and if one requires a stone all should require a stone).

It can take some time to think about this, but I will give you all an example I came up with:

A ground, electric, and water starter: Sandshrew, Electrike, and Buizel. They have symmetry against each other, all are part of a 2 evolution line, and all evolve through the same means(and as a bonus, around the same level as Buizel and Electrike evolve at level 26, and Sandshrew evolves at level 22).

I personally love the idea of this trio and would have a hard time picking which one to use! Does all this make sense? Hope so! Looking forward to hearing what people come up with.

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Here's a unique one-a game with 3 Eevee.

BUT-Each one could only evolve into a set stone evolution and the others can not evolve into the same.

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Dragonking, interesting idea for sure. How would it work? Would you know up front which stone your eevee can use?
Yes, you'd get the typical "this Eevee will evolve to the Fire type Flareon", and so on, when choosing. Though the only problem is, there really isn't enough Diversity for many different combinations.
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Other ones I have thought about:

1. Cubchoo, Mienfoo, and Taillow(all 2 stage starters, ice beats flying, flying beats fighting, fighting beats ice).

2. Bellsprout, caterpie, and roggenrola(all 3 stage starters, grass beats rock, rock beats bug, bug beats grass. Prob the most flawed given differing evolution levels and I’m not sure how many actual bug moves butterfree learns).

3. Ledyba , Shroomish, and Cranidos(all 2 stage starters, at least similar evolution levels, Breloom gains fighting type but Ledian’s flying type maintains symmetry as flying is good against fighting and bug is good against grass, Rampardos being rock is good against both bug and flying, maintaining strength against Ledian as well, and both of Breloom’s types, grass and fighting, are strong against rock).

In case you can’t tell I am most proud of option 3, lol.
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Ice v steel v ground is a combo I hadn’t thought of! That’s awesome! I would personally have a hard time picking from that trio because I like them all too!

I have thought three dragons could be cool, like a Pokémon how to train your dragon version. It’d be cool to make a game where everyone can only get dragons and all the TM and move tutor are readily available. With everyone’s Pokémon having similar weaknesses and super effective moves to each other it would really emphasize skill and strategy. Think I’d pick Dratini in this trio, but it’d also be a hard choice.
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I have thought three dragons could be cool, like a Pokémon how to train your dragon version. It’d be cool to make a game where everyone can only get dragons and all the TM and move tutor are readily available. With everyone’s Pokémon having similar weaknesses and super effective moves to each other it would really emphasize skill and strategy. Think I’d pick Dratini in this trio, but it’d also be a hard choice.
Indeed, Dragon-types would be cool. You'd just have to find three of them that are about equally strong, evolve at about the same levels and preferably have different battle styles.

Interestingly, I've realised that a starter trio's essence, apart from having type symmetry, is also having different battle styles. Take any trio of starters and you'll see: slow special Venusaur, fast special Charizard, defensive Blastoise. Fast special Sceptile, mixed offensive Blaziken, slow physical Swampert.
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You could also try starter duos - could be interesting. First that comes to mind: Deino and Dreepy. Similar/same stats, take a million years to evolve at same/similar levels (though you could jump start them during the imaginary plot), strong against each other and are one, two and three entities in each stage.
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I had started to think about duos too. Could be cool and put greater emphasis on competition with your rival.

I thought of one trade trio, but it’s a bit of a stretch:
Elekid, rhyhorn, and poliwag. They have type symmetry, but you’d have to take away the king’s Rock requirement to get politoed(or just ensure all players get it automatically), evo levels don’t match well, and I think Politoed would be WAY outmatched by Electivire and Rhyperior. Like I said, it’s a stretch.

Interestingly, the old school trade evo lines almost work: gengsr beats alakazam, alakazam beats machamp, but machamp can’t effect gengar. If he were dark type it would work, too bad.

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You could also try starter duos - could be interesting. First that comes to mind: Deino and Dreepy. Similar/same stats, take a million years to evolve (so you could jump start them during the imaginary plot), strong against each other and are one, two and three entities in each stage.
Deino is literally the worst alongside Goomy- He doesn't even evolve ONCE until the level area that all other Dragons become FULLY EVOLVED!

The only thing that makes him better than Goomy is he's actually viable and able to be used during the main game early story because his stats are marginally better lol. I still haven't figured out why the Deino evolution line takes so long. Hydreigon DOES NOT OUTCLASS the other fully evolved evolved Dragons by any means, let alone is he THAT MUCH BETTER that it warrants almost 20-30 more levels to evolve fully.

If anything him being one of the only ones with DOUBLE Fairy weakness makes it worse!

That said, Add Goomy to that duo and make it a threeway of hardest to train Dragons.
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So if that is the hardest three to train, who are the easiest three?

I have another couple that came to mind:
-Ferroseed, Numel, and Seel(all 2 stage starters, though they have the water-fire-grass types they also have steel-ground-ice symmetry).

2. , Cubone, Psyduck, and Magnemite

3. Blitzle, Krabby, and Phanpy(prob my favorite of this bunch).

4. Joltik, Carvanha, Numel(Bug and electric are good against water and dark, water good against fire and ground, ground and fire are goodness against electric and bug, all 2 stage starters).

-I feel like number 4 deserves a mic drop. I’d say of these I’d pick Ferroseed, Cubone, Phanpy, and Joltik.

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Shroomish, Houndour, and Staryu.

2 stages, but it would be simple enough for you to receive the water stone around 25 or so to get the evolutions even. All finals have weaknesses and advantages. Grass and Fighting, Water and Psychic, and Dark and Fire.

Grass over Water, but Psychic above Fighting. Fire over Grass, but Fighting above Dark. Water over Fire, but Dark over Psychic.

It's literally an endless circle. Good luck with those Rival fights!
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I just thought of a Fire/Water/Electric trio that works: add Bug to them all! Sizzlipede, Dewpider, Joltik, for example. Fire beats Bug/Electric, Electric beats Bug/Water and Water beats Bug/Fire. Too bad Joltik evolves at such a late level, and Centiscorch is way stronger stat-wise than the other two, but they look really cool as a set.
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Sounds like a challenge to start with a big type too, like playing Pokémon on hard mode.
Thanks! But don't underestimate the Bug type - one of the most powerful Pokémon for online battles I ever had was my Speed Boost Yanmega in Black. A "measly" Bug/Flying type, and she ate Hydreigon for breakfast!

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Magnemite vs Togepi vs Machop.

Steel beats Fairy. Fairy beats Fighting. Fighting beats Steel.
I had a hard time finding a good 3 evo Fairy pokemon. My other option was Ralts, but it's also Psychic from the start. Again, Togepi is the only one that becomes Flying in the end, so sadly they aren't all pure type.

On the topic of the three Dragon starters, I once played a fan game with those exact starters. I can't remember the name at all. I had chosen Gible, I do remember that because I had a hard time thinking which one would be the best choice.t

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Fighting / Psychic / Dark would be great. I feel like edgy rom hacks and fan games already incorporate this though, I might have to check.
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Fighting / Psychic / Dark would be great. I feel like edgy rom hacks and fan games already incorporate this though, I might have to check.
This is literally Gen 6 final forms lol.

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This is literally Gen 6 final forms lol.
True, but still with the Grass-Fire-Water added in. I was thinking more pure typings y'know?
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I’ll give this fighting vs psychic vs dark thing a go while we are talking about it. These don’t have perfect symmetry but are all 2 stage evolutions with evolution levels that are close:

1. Mienfoo, Elgyem, and Zorua(all Unova, ironically. This isn’t a trio I’d love to see).

2. Drowzee, Mankey, and Poochyene

3. Spoink, Hariyama, and Nickit(another I’d love to see).

I’m having a hard time thinking of others at the moment, but it feels like there must be some combination I am missing. It’s kind of interesting how hard it is to find purebreds dark types.