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Old July 19th, 2005 (7:47 PM). Edited July 20th, 2005 by LHF.
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Metagross @ Choice Band ** AgilityGross
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 98 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** CBMence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Def / 114 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers ** RAWR
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 176 HP / 82 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Rest
- Rock Slide

Suicune @ Leftovers ** IBIBIBIBIBIBIB
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 100 Def / 64 Spd / 64 SAtk / 42 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** HPWaterownsyou
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 214 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers ** Smokes
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 196 HP / 62 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp
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Metagross, Lv.100; Careful nature
@Silk Scarf
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Agility
-Explosion

Your Metagross is almost exactly the same as mine, just that mine has Agility instead of Rock Slide. Why would you even need Rock Slide when you have Earthquake?
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Salamence, Lv.100; Adamant nature
@Anything
-Dragon Dance
-Earthquake/Rock Slide
-Fire Blast
-HP Flying

I prefer Rock Slide to counter Water/Ice types. Electric types usually have low defense, so a DD Rock Slide should KO any that come across your path.
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Espeon, Lv. 100; Modest nature
@Petaya Berry
-Psychic
-HP Dark
-Morning Sun
-Calm Mind

Espeon has such a high Special Attack, so don't waste it with Baton Pass.
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Suicune, Lv.100; Calm nature
@Leftovers
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Surf
-Ice Beam/Rain Dance/Anything

Suicune should be faster than anything you find, so Substitute, then Calm Mind as much as you want. Leftovers let you Substitute 4 times. Surf is basic, and the last attack can be whatever you want.
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Your Blissey is perfect for a Cleric, but remember that you can make an alternate set that takes advantage of Serene Grace.
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If you need a Hazer, I recommend Jolly Crobat, as it's faster than almost everything. But here's your Weezing:

Weezing, Lv.100; Adamant nature
@Leftovers
-Haze
-Will-O-Wisp/Explosion
-Sludge Bomb/Explosion
-Shadow Ball/Explosion

Weezing has only one weakness, which is Psychic, so give it Shadow Ball. The second attack can be either Sludge Bomb or Explosion. Or you can get rid of Will-O-Wisp altogether.
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Sorry but I just got to say this. lol at the above post.

My Gross has RS cuz it's a CBer and I need something to hit Skarm with when worst comes to worst. Why would you have Silk Scarf on anything is what I want to know.

RS to counter Ice? Why would you leave Mence in against Ice types anyway? You forgot to mention that RS has horrible ACC so it isn't as good as EQ. EQ is generaly accepted as the best non-stabed physical attack in the game. I like RS on Mence only when it's CB.

Have you seen Espeon's stats? It can't survive a hit so Sub is needed to set up with CM. That's why there's Timid instead of Modest also. My set is the Espeyjump which is the standard and works very well.

Cune is a PHazer plus tank and you are telling me to go without rest? What happens if they T-Wave/WoW it? I definately don't want to switch after a couple of CM's. Sub on Cune is just dumb cuz after 6 CM's not even STABed Thunder could OHKO it, iircc. I use Roar over IB cuz I feel I have no need to fear Grass.

Serene Grace Bliss is Hax. Plus, the only reason anyone uses Bliss is for Clericing and Sponging anyway.

Exploding your Hazer sounds really smart. Weezing needs some way to regain HP and Rest on it is just suicide, that's where Pain Split came in. WoW on Weezing is absolutely needed to stop physical sweepers. Why would I leave Weezing out against a psychic type anyway?
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Old July 20th, 2005 (1:05 AM). Edited July 20th, 2005 by starmie fighter.
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why am i still loling at silk scarf metagross?

Sludge Bomb > Rock Slideon Metagross, so you can actually hurt ludicolo, plus meteor mash will do enough to any flyers .etc.
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Old July 20th, 2005 (1:25 AM). Edited July 20th, 2005 by Squarewalker.
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Metagross @ Choice Band ** AgilityGross
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 57 hp / 201 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide / Shadow Ball / Sludge Bomb

I've always preferred Shadow Ball as a last move for cbgross to OHKO something like Starmie or Gengar. Sludge Bomb can poison annoying stuff like Suicune and hits Celebi harder. Rock Slide is also ok, though. I edited a bit on the EVs which you can use if you think it's better.

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** CBMence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 58 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Won't OHKO Skarm with Fire Blast, but it would be nearly impossible to 2hko or 3hko it with Flamethrower. You might want some of that EVs in hp into sp.attack and a Jolly nature to give it more speed.

Espeon (F) @ Leftovers ** HP Fire
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Substitute

Standard

Suicune @ Leftovers ** IBIBIBIBIBIBIB
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 180 Def / 70 Spd / 20 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar / Ice Beam
- Surf

You already have a hazer, so you might want to give it Ice Beam over Roar. Pseudo Hazing a Mean Look - trap might be useful though.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** HPWaterownsyou
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 214 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave / Ice Beam

If you don't want to give IB to Suicune, you might give it to Blissey. Of course you would need to put a few EVs in sp.attack. Just a suggestion, because I've seen quite a lot of Gengars using Taunt recently.

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers ** Smokes
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 196 HP / 62 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp

Standard.

Misleading nicknames are cool.
Yep, they are. Anyway, I hope this will help.
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Metagross @ Choice Band ** AgilityGross
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 96 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Sludge Bomb

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** CBMence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 60 Def / 112 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Flying]

Espeon (F) @ Leftovers ** HP Fire
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 196 HP / 68 Spd / 16 SAtk / 228 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Substitute

Suicune @ Leftovers ** IBIBIBIBIBIBIB
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 100 Def / 8 Spd / 24 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** HPWaterownsyou
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 214 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers ** Smokes
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 196 HP / 62 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp

Misleading nicknames are cool.
Normal type Cb'er weakness, massive McGar weak
very large spikes problem, your team will require you to switch alot, so I think you need a spinner
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Anyways, I will prefer Sludge Bomb/ Shadow Ball > RS on Metagross

Fire Blast>Flame thrower as it 2hko skarm.

And you also might want to put ice beam over roar on cune since you already have a hazer but that's just me.
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I like it,but I've seen the MS a million times,so 9/10
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I like it,but I've seen the MS a million times,so 9/10
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Very good 9/10 @ my choice
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Golden Groudon relax, and people stop posting numbers as rates. RMT's are useless if people do that. "9/10", well why isn't it a 10 out of 10, please elaborate by giving them stuff to fix. Basically, be productive instead of spamming up the board to increase your post count
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Old July 20th, 2005 (11:50 AM).
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Ok. Sorry if I sounded like I was being rude but seriously, people need to stop this. It's very annoying. Husk, I really really really really think you should make a sticky about this.
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Old July 20th, 2005 (12:44 PM).
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I knew my EVs were screwed up, thanks for helping. What Spinner do you think I should use? I was thinking Forrey, but Claydol might work too.
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Dophan or Fortress but I would prefer dopgan since he can atleast attack dusclops.
Starmie might be a option too.
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Old July 20th, 2005 (12:52 PM).
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Think I'll go with Donphan cuz with Starmie in Boah would rape this team alive. What should I replace it with?
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Dunno. Anyways, does haze get rid of Leech seed/spikes? =X I haven't played in a loooonnnng time.
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No it doesn't. That's why I need a spinner.
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no haze doesn't =(

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Oh. My bad then.

I wish it would tho. =D
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I decided to take out Espeon. I edited my first post. RMT now.
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Maybe HP rock>RS as dophan cannot afford to mis.
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Donphan needs more attack and less hp. An adamant nature would be better than Impish.
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Metagross @ Choice Band ** AgilityGross
Trait: Clear Body
EVs:252 atk/252 spd/4 hp
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Shadow Ball

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** CBMence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 atk/enough speed for 264/rest in hp
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- flamethower
- Hidden Power [Flying]

ok, after they realise metagross has choice band, they will know this thing is ddmence. but then they might think that you're trying to get them to think it really is ddmence and stuff. like reverse reverse psycology (sp?) flamethrower>fire blast because they both 2hko skarm and 1hko forretress

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers ** RAWR
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 176 HP / 82 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Rest
- Rock Slide

i suck with donphan

Suicune @ Leftovers ** IBIBIBIBIBIBIB
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 hp/212 def/8 spd/12 sp atk/36 sp def
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** HPWaterownsyou
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 214 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

i like ice beam bliss more but w/e

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers ** Smokes
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 196 HP / 62 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp
fixed the EV's a bit. its okay

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Took out Salamence and put in this:
Dragonite (M) @ Leftovers ** DDNite
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 30 HP / 104 Atk / 176 Spd / 200 SAtk
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
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