Incorrect Pokemon Types Page 2

Started by Dizzy September 6th, 2003 11:36 AM
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I never understood why Sneasel would be part ice...It doesn't look like it should be, and does it even learn any ice attacks?

I think Khangaskhan should be part fighting, it looks like a fighter to me, plus the classic Boxing Kangaroo thingie springs to mind. *gets an idea for a Kanaghaskan evo*

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Yay, my "there's nothing wrong with the Machop line being female" argument is working, mwa ha ha! In birds of prey, hyenas, and some other animals, females are the larger and stronger sex, so there's nothing wrong with female Pokemon being big and strong too.

Gardevoir doesn't really have breasts, it just looks like it has a gown and maybe a slight female shape. But I don't see what's so bad about it being male. How do you imagine a male Gardevoir to look like anyway?

Back on topic...

Mawile should've either been part Dark or pure Dark... it doesn't learn Steel moves that are offensive (I think), and its Sapphire equivalent is part Dark. Either way, its stats still stink :P

Seviper would have been SO cool if it was part Dark!

Altaria... this is a long shot... part Ice. If it learned maybe Icy Wind on its own, I could see this happening. But don't get on my case about this, I did say it was a long shot. I'm so sick of Dragon/Flying types...

Speaking of Icy Wind, Sneasel SHOULD NOT be an Ice type. It should be pure Dark or part Fighting.
Seviper should have been part dark ................
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Sneasel is better off pure dark... it's harder to be classified as "fighting" type if you use sharp claws in battle. The idea of "fighting" type is more like punches and kicks, not furiously scratching each other.

Seviper could have easily been dark type, as it learns crunch anyway. Plus in terms of literature the serpent is always considered as an "evil" being.

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Iveechan is there any Pokemon you think shouldn't be Fighting? XD!!!

And Pezz to me Khangaskhan dosn't look like a fighting type, its punch moves are all Normal. It has poor speed and most important it is in the the Monster group (in GSC) which are mainly heavy Dinosaur-like Pokemon that can't jump high, its prob called Khangaskhan because it has a pocket like a Kangaroo =3. The only Fighting move it can prob learn is Double Kick if it breeds with Nidoking. Maybe even more kicking moves if you breed it well. *thinks of Khangaskhan using high jump kick* ROTFLMAO!

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Iveechan is there any Pokemon you think shouldn't be Fighting? XD!!!

And Pezz to me Khangaskhan dosn't look like a fighting type, its punch moves are all normal. It has poor speed and most importann it can't jump high, its prob called Khangaskhan because it hass a pocket like a Kangaroo =3. The only Fighting move it can prob learn is Double Kick if it breeds with Nidoking. Maybe even more kicking moves if you breed it good. *thinks of Khangaskhan using high jump kick* ROTFLMAO!
I agree with Pezz , Kangaskhan is a kangaroo , they fight , and genghis khan was a warrior aka fighter so theres the sense ^^
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I agree with Pezz , Kangaskhan is a kangaroo , they fight , and genghis khan was a warrior aka fighter so theres the sense ^^
Come on... Look at it, its big and slow... And the Nido evo's learn Double Kick and they turn into Poison/Ground not Posion/Fighting.

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Kangaskhan is not that slow... mine's Speed was in the 250's, which is not high but sorta average. That's kinda like Girafarig's Speed. Kanga is pretty fast for the way it looks.

And Spike, did you not read my post carefully? I only suggested Sneasel be fighting. Whatever. It would still be neat if Electabuzz was part Fighting. It may not learn Fighting moves on its own, but they could tweak it, plus it can learn the brick break tm.

I would have loved it if Tyranitar was a Ground type instead of Rock. It would give it an Electric resistance. Let's see the weakness/resistance chart:

Rock/Dark
resistance: normal, fire, flying, ghost, dark, *psychic*
weakness: water, grass, ground, steel, FIGHTING, bug

Ground/Dark
resistance: poison, rock, ghost, dark, *electric*, *psychic*
weakness: water, grass, ice, bug, fighting

They have the same number of resistances, but being part Ground would give 'tar 2 immunities to relatively common types. Ground also has one less weakness and no double weaknesses. The only bad part is that it would have a common Ice weakness. STAB'ed Earthquake, w00t!

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Kangaskhan is a Marsupial, and it has several Kangaroo elements, but I doubt it's really a *kangaroo*.

I do agree with Ivee on the idea of Tyranitar. It indeed *should* have been part ground. Even its shell doesn't look too rocky.

Nyura... Pure dark. or Dark/Fighting. I don't know why it's half ice myself. (shrugs) -_-
Tsk tsk, so unoriginal... It's just like naming your god "God"...

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And Spike, did you not read my post carefully? I only suggested Sneasel be fighting. Whatever. It would still be neat if Electabuzz was part Fighting. It may not learn Fighting moves on its own, but they could tweak it, plus it can learn the brick break tm.
Yes I did, but im saying is that im getting the impresssiong that you think almost every Pokemon thats human-shaped or can stand on two legs should be part fighting, and concidering how many evil Psychic moves are out there waiting to land cheap hits is overwhelming. Take the move 'Psychic' it does way more than it says to almost all Pokemon (but dark).

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Kangaskhan has 299 speed with a neutral personality and full EVs.

It did a lot better when it had Curse, it had only one weakness and it was physical, had Roar to beat psuedohazers out. Now it has Early Bird for a one-turn Rest...

Tyranitar needs a lot of weaknesses, especially now that it has Dragon Dance. Everything but Latios that has Dragon Dance has a 4x weakness.

My Zapdos and a Tyranitar often faced off in a Thunderbolt/Rock Slide War if it came down to it. Although Miltank was the ultimate anti-Tyranitar, it probably isn't now due to Dragon Dance.
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Sneasel and Electabuzz doesn't really cover "all" standing up Pokemon. That's two. WHOOP DEE DOO! And Fighting is an excellent type, it can take down five types. Your argument is Psychic. If Sneasel was Dark/Fighting, then its only weaknesses would be Flying and Fighting and it would be immune to Psychic. A big improvement over being weak to fire, steel, rock, bug, and a double fighting weakness if I do say so myself.

Don't we have a million water and normal types already? Chhanging the types of a few Pokemon would be great.

Huntail to part Dark, Gorebyss to part Psychic.

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Huntail shouldn't be part dark... it got a big mouth but then it uses pure physical attacks... (abuse that monstrosity stats man)... Better to have a physical STAB for the other type. Gorebyss indeed should be part psychic...

The denotation for Kangaskan maybe pretty speedy, but still the connotation for it is pretty slow and sturdy... it just doesn't *look* like the stats make sense for it...

Tyranitar lost rock type for ground? If that is true then the very next day you see Tyranitar bashing everything in sight on RSbot... Dragon Dance + STAB earthquake + excellent stats... oh dear. It's too terrifying to just imagine such a monster.

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it can reversal and brick break... and the reversal heracross is always a classic deadly killer, now with boosted speed of salac berry too (evil...)

Kingdra isn't that "unbeatable" really... as it got some big time limited moveset without sleep talk... against a kingdra nothing a mirror coat can't handle... the only physical attack it can learn is HP ???, secret power or return... Slaking gets killed by anyone with protect (a good time to send out ninjask to buff up). Kyogre is currently just paranoid about Shedinjas that it even sacrificed ice beam for ancientpower in standard sets. Well blissey... i can't really defend against that one x_x
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...and a ground/dark tyranitar gets pwned by water, ice, and fighting, just to name a few. I'm not saying the above Pokemon were "unbeatable" (don't put words in my mouth please), I meant that they are very difficult to beat, especially for a new trainer or one like me who doesn't understand all of these move combos. Kingdra with a limited movepool? Heck, water and dragon can hit anything, and dragon breath may paralyze.

what is reversal anyway? a punch, kick, or slam? I know heracross gets fighting moves, it's just not a "traditional" fighter who punches and kicks.

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what is reversal anyway? a punch, kick, or slam? I know heracross gets fighting moves, it's just not a "traditional" fighter who punches and kicks.
Its called a "Fluke" a mistake, like Gyarados and Venasaur ect.
Venasaur only learns Posion Power (dunno about R/S version). And Gyarados knows no Flying moves at all, like even if it was only water it could still own Ground and Ghost which are the only things Flying is good against.

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must we bring out Gyarados again... seems like i must drag out my old "essay paper" on Gyarados being part flying... it's due to the fact that Gyarados just got this insane attack power, and speed isn't bad too with 260s. Did i mention a modest Gyarados can pretty much sweep with 386 attack power + dragon dance, and use Earthquake on you? And just thank Gamefreak so much for not capable of learning Aerial ace... right now Gyarados is pretty close to unbeatable after 3 dragon dance unless it got paralyzed (which is usually done by electric types anyway). Flying type is needed for balancing reasons and to help Gyarados out. Earthquake is just so common for high atk stats Pokemon that it's not even funny. You need flying/levitate to live in 2vs2 as well. Since grass types are strong to earthquake, it's always nice to have some resistance against leaf blades for gyarados. With a strong 298 sp.def, it's only suitable to have a x4 electric weakness so gyarados can't have an easy life using dragon dance to sweep. Like what Kairi likes to say, the only dragon dancer without a x4 weakness is Kingdra (who has no use of it most of the time) and Latios. All the others are just pure power attacks like Tyranitar and Salamence, so a x4 weakness is needed for each and every one of them so you can put yourself out of your misery earlier and easier...

flying is never good against ghost... it's just neutral like water and electric and many other elements... (But we do know that every common ghost can screw Gyarados all over)

Kingdra... well nice stats and nice elemental combo! Wow i'm going to abuse this! What moves can you learn buddy/ *reads movelist* well um...

(Kingdra's move combo... just throw few of them together and you got a good kingdra)
-rest
-water pulse/surf
-rain dance
-dragon breath
-dragon dance
-ice beam
-return and other normal element attacks

what else... nothing much. Using normal attacks for Kingdra is rather rare, so usually Milotic comes in to mirror coat, Kingdra uses rest and Milotic uses recover... It'll just be a contest to see who runs out of PP first. Water moves are so common so the opponent will pretty much benefit from rain dance just as much as you, and Lanturn would appreciate its opponent to waste a turn doing its rain dance trick for it for STAB 100% accuracy thunder...

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and at the same time we see earthquaking Thyplosion, shadow punching Dusclops, tons of normal type learning focus punch, and best of all, a Venomoth who's part poison who can NATURALLY learn psychic too...

just cause you can learn it, that doesn't mean you can't be weak against it. We do see Pikachu suffer from many "electrical" diseases in the anime a lot too right?

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i'm not so fond of HP personally... as if you're doing things the real legal way, using HP right is close to impossible... So i avoid HP on my own Pokemon...

well either way, a Pokemon doesn't have to have a STAB move, and a Pokemon can be weak to a move that it is capable of learning.

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flying is good against grass, bug, and fighting. Venusaur can get sludge bomb in rs (took them long enough to give it a stab poison move).
I was speaking about its defencive ability, not what it can knockout. And can't true grass types learn Sludge Bomb? I never tryed cause I tought Arbok Sludge Bomb for soem strange reason =3.

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