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Old July 23rd, 2005 (11:18 AM).
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Blaziken Lv 100
Adamant Nature
Atk. 324
Def. 163
Sp. Atk. 228
Sp. Def. 174
Spd. 194

Moves:
Blaze Kick
Overheat
Thunder Punch
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (12:06 PM).
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Sky Uppercut
Overheat
SD
RS
Tell me, did you use Rare Candies to Level this Blaziken up? It seems to have very low stats, as in, all of them are below the maximum for no EVs. If you actually battled with it to get to Lv.100, then it has very low IVs, and very, um, for lack of a better word, diverse EVs.
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (12:12 PM).
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No I didn't but I used Overheat alot of times. Which RS? Rock Smash or Rock Slide.
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (12:42 PM).
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Rock Slide. No one uses Rock Smash competitively (I'm assuming this is for link battles).

Using Overheat a lot of times wouldn't have any effect on stat growth. Um.. could you post the HP stat? I'm guessing that's where a lot of the EVs got to. But reguardless, you have two or more very low IVs, and at least one that's only average.
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (12:49 PM).
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Well even with low Attack IVs, the thing should have at least 340 ish in it's Attack with its current nature and 252 EVs in Attack.

train2004: You do know what EVs are right?
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (1:16 PM).
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Yes, I know what they are.
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (1:26 PM).
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I see. You have very low IVs, it seems, possibly all around. If you EV trained, could you tell me what the EVs were? If you didn't EV train, they were just randomly spread about, making up for your very poor IVs.
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (2:38 PM).
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overheat only lowers your special attack until you switch out, it doesn't do it permanantly
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (2:51 PM).
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Blaziken Lv 100
Adamant Nature
Atk. 324
Def. 163
Sp. Atk. 228
Sp. Def. 174
Spd. 194

Moves:
Blaze Kick
Overheat
sky uppercut
fire blast
Eh...preety good though alot of its stats are low!^^ Well I think you should take some attacks out becuase there bad for Blaziken~ I put the new attacks in bold^^
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (3:03 PM).
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Eh...preety good though alot of its stats are low!^^ Well I think you should take some attacks out becuase there bad for Blaziken~ I put the new attacks in bold^^
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Errrrr....I don't think you know what you're talking about....
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (3:06 PM).
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Errrrr....I don't think you know what you're talking about....
er...stop annoying everyone! It would be good,im just saying what things I think it needs not for Godlen Groudon to get in the way!
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (3:08 PM).
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Evs are Effort Values. Effort Values are your Atk., Def., Sp Atk., Sp. Def., and your Spd.
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (3:24 PM).
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Errr..not exactly.

If you think that the stats of your Blaziken that you posted earlier are EVs, you have the wrong idea of EVs.

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Atk. 324
Def. 163
Sp. Atk. 228
Sp. Def. 174
Spd. 194
Effort Values are NOT your stats, they make up part of it. Every 4 EVs to one stat = 1 stat point.

Ex: 4 EVs in Defense will add one point to your Defense stat. If you have 100 Defense, and then you get 4 EVs to your Defense stat, your defense is now 101.

Someone else can probably explain it better.

And Maxie, I agree with Golden Groudon. You don't really need both Fire Blast AND Overheat. It would be better off with the moveset that A.Coz posted earlier.
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you do have the wrond idea your blaziken's speed is 194 at level 100 its preety bad^^
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (4:09 PM).
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But my Blaziken always attacks first. I defeated the pokemon 14 times with him.
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All is not lost, you might still be able to squeeze out a few more EV points by employing the box trick. You get the EVs you want, then you put the pokemon in the box and take it out again! Good luck!
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (4:15 PM).
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But my Blaziken always attacks first. I defeated the pokemon 14 times with him.
Your second sentence doesn't make much sense. Do you mean you defeated the Pokemon League 14 times with it going first every time? If so, that doesn't really mean anything. Your Blaziken is at level 100 compared to the E4's Pokemon at level 60-80, so it's stats are going to be higher without a doubt due to a higher level. If the E4's Pokemon were at level 100 as well, your Blaziken wouldn't be going first as much anymore.

194 Speed isn't that fast. Your Blaziken should have at least 210 Speed if you've EV trained it.
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (4:22 PM).
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er...stop annoying everyone! It would be good,im just saying what things I think it needs not for Godlen Groudon to get in the way!
Golden Groudon knows what he's doing. You... don't. No pokemon needs 3 moves of the same types, especially considering one of those is Overheat, which will thoroughly weaken its other two fire attacks.
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er...stop annoying everyone! It would be good,im just saying what things I think it needs not for Godlen Groudon to get in the way!
actually you don't know what you're talking about. stop rating teams ^_^

it doesn't need 3 fire moves, okay?
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (4:53 PM).
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Here's my Blazikens moveset. It works pretty well for me, but it's all up to you if you want to use it or not.

Moves:
Slash
Blaze kick
Sky Uppercut
Rock Slide
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Slash doesn't serve much of a purpose on that moveset. You, like the thread maker, would be better off with SD.
 

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