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Old July 23rd, 2005 (5:02 PM).
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I found one of my old NB teams in My Docs and since I just re-installed NB, I might as well get it changed to fit the current metagame.

[email protected] - Jolly (Rock Head)
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Aerial Ace
Double-Edge
Earthquake
Rock Slide

I'm pretty sure this was my starter.

[email protected] Berry - Careful
EVs: 6 Attack, 252 Sp. Def., 252 Speed
Leech Seed
Protect
Sleep Powder
Sludge Bomb

[email protected] - ???
EVs: ???
Heal Bell
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Toxic

I don't think I had Blissey finished. It's EVs were all evened out at 85 and it's nature was Hardy.

[email protected] - Timid (Natural Cure)
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Atk.
Ice Beam
Psyxhic
Surf
Thunderbolt

[email protected] Berry - Timid
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Atk.
Destiny Bond
Psychic
Sludge Bomb
Thunderbolt

[email protected] - Jolly
EVs: 252 Attack, 6 HP, 252 Speed
Brick Break
Earthquake
Hyper Beam
Shadow Ball
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (5:48 PM).
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[email protected]choice band - Jolly (Rock Head)
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
hiddenpower flying
Double-Edge
Earthquake
Rock Slide

I'm pretty sure this was my starter.

[email protected] Berry - Careful
EVs: 6 Attack, 252 Sp. Def., 252 Speed
Leech Seed
synthesis
Sleep Powder
Sludge Bomb

[email protected] - ???
EVs: 252 Def/252 HP/6 SpecDef(252 SPA/252 Def/6 HP if you use icebeam)
aromatherapy
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
t-wave/ice beam

I don't think I had Blissey finished. It's EVs were all evened out at 85 and it's nature was Hardy.

[email protected] - Timid (Natural Cure)
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Atk.
Ice Beam
Psyhcic
Surf
Thunderbolt
not a big starmie fan, but i think its good

[email protected] Berry - Timid
EVs: 6 HP, 252 Speed, 252 attack.
focuspunch
sub
icepunch
shadowball

[email protected] - adament
EVs: 252 Attack, 6 HP, 252 Speed
rockslide
Earthquake
Hyper Beam
Shadow Ball
brickbreak=bad on slaking. heres the damage on a normal type with brick break...

75(2)=150 base damage...

now with hyperbeam...

150(1.5)=225 base damage...

lots more :)
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (5:54 PM).
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[email protected]CB - Jolly (Rock Head)
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
HP [Flying]
Double-Edge
Earthquake
Rock Slide
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[email protected]Leftovers - Careful
EVs: 6 Attack, 252 Sp. Def., 252 Speed
Leech Seed
Sub
Sleep Powder
Sludge Bomb
I'm not too good with this one, but those EVs need some serious reworking.

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[email protected] - Bold
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 46 SDef
Aromatheropy
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Thunder Wave
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[email protected] - Timid (Natural Cure)
EVs: 40 HP / 216 Spd / 252 SAtk
Surf
Rapid Spin
Recover
Thunder Wave
I would drop Gengar for a Raikou:
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Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 52 HP / 216 Spd / 240 SAtk
Timid Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- HP [Grass]


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[email protected]CB - Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack, 6 HP, 252 Speed
Focus Punch
Earthquake
Return
Shadow Ball
Hyper Beam absolutely sucks. Running two CBers may not be such a good idea, but that's what Aero and Slaking do best. You should consider dropping it for a physical wall, such as Skarmory, which your team lacks.
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (6:02 PM).
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hyperbeam=godly on slaking dude.
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And I'm sure that a STABed CBed FP in the face feels good, too?
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Old July 23rd, 2005 (6:17 PM).
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hyperbeam=godly on slaking dude.
no. hyper beam fails on slaking. give it return/double-edge and just switch on the turn it slacks off ;)
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Old July 25th, 2005 (12:07 AM).
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no. hyper beam fails on slaking. give it return/double-edge and just switch on the turn it slacks off
What do you mean by "fail"? It looks like it works fine to me. Am I missing something here?

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And I'm sure that a STABed CBed FP in the face feels good, too?
Yes, it sounds very powerful and godly, but how do you people get FP to work on this moveset??

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[email protected] - Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack, 6 HP, 252 Speed
Focus Punch
Earthquake
Return
Shadow Ball
I haven't ever been able to get a hit off with FP without subpunching, and subpunching isn't an option with CB.
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Old July 25th, 2005 (12:15 AM). Edited July 25th, 2005 by Squarewalker.
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I haven't ever been able to get a hit off with FP without subpunching, and subpunching isn't an option with CB.
Send Slaking in against something you think will switch out. The turn you predict the switch, use FP and OHKO the pokemon the opponent switches in. CB-ed FP must really hurt.
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Old July 25th, 2005 (4:54 AM).
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brick break on slaking is pointless

Super Effective BB is less powerful then normal effectivness Stabbed Return

also Focus Punch on slaking is for when you predict they'll switch out to say, skarmory
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Old July 25th, 2005 (8:47 AM).
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Yes, it sounds very powerful and godly, but how do you people get FP to work on this moveset??
Actually, I was talking about the turn you're recharging from using Hyper Beam. Oh, I left out SE. So, it would be:
'And I'm sure that a SE STABed CBed FP in the face feels good, too?'

That's better. They get a free attack/set up off on you when you choose to stay in slacking off, or when you use Hyper Beam. If that attack happens to be a FP, which will guarantee hit (unless there have been accuraccy/evasion modifiers put in place a.k.a. hax), it's bye-bye Slaking. Or it will at least severely dent it.

Return KOs just about the same stuff that HB does, except w/o having to stick around for the ensuing pain. You have the option to switch out after using Return, but not after using HB.
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Old July 25th, 2005 (1:10 PM).
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even double-edge is a better option then hyper beam on slaking imo
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Old July 25th, 2005 (9:24 PM).
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if you have a wish passer

BTW hp: bug on aero

return does more than FP for Slaking -_-

lol Sub venusaur, use earthquake instead of protect

Starmie:
~Ice Beam/ Thunder Bolt
~Rapid Spin
~Surf
~Recover

STABless starmie sucks, so if you want boltbeam replace rapid spin
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Old July 26th, 2005 (7:51 AM).
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return does more than FP for Slaking -_-
Skarmory says hi. It's not like BB where there is absolutely no point whatsoever to using it. FP hurts Skarm. A lot. More so than Return would.
 

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