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Old October 16th, 2005 (8:55 AM).
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Raticate (M) @ Choice Band ** Plague
Trait: Guts
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk

Takes status moves

Jynx (F) @ Leftovers ** Blowjob Kween
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss
- Psychic

Cool Sweeper

Aggron (M) @ Choice Band ** Triceratops
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 78 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Rock]

being part Rock means it likes to switch in NVE CB hits and Focus Punch on the switch

Pelipper (M) @ Leftovers ** Helliper
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 202 Def / 56 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Helliper is cool

Hypno (M) @ Leftovers ** Freud
Trait: Insomnia
EVs: 228 HP / 180 Def / 102 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Reflect
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Wish

Special Sponge and supports

Raichu (M) @ Petaya Berry ** Yellow Rat
Trait: Static
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Spd / 246 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

GG Quagsire
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Old October 16th, 2005 (9:06 AM). Edited October 16th, 2005 by Squarewalker.
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Raticate (M) @ Choice Band ** Plague
Trait: Guts
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk

Takes status moves
Looks ok. You might want to consider Super Fang on this somewhere, possibly over HP Fighting, since imo, Super Fang and Guts are the only reasons to use this.

Jynx (F) @ Leftovers ** Blowjob Kween
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss
- Psychic

Cool Sweeper
Sub or Mean Look over Psychic, IMO.

Aggron (M) @ Choice Band ** Triceratops
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 78 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Rock]

being part Rock means it likes to switch in NVE CB hits and Focus Punch on the switch
k.

Pelipper (M) @ Leftovers ** Helliper
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 202 Def / 56 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Helliper is cool
Looks ok.

Hypno (M) @ Leftovers ** Freud
Trait: Insomnia
EVs: 228 HP / 180 Def / 102 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Reflect
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Wish

Special Sponge and supports
I prefer Light Screen over Reflect on this, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

Raichu (M) @ Petaya Berry ** Yellow Rat
Trait: Static
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Spd / 246 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

GG Quagsire
Ok.
You have no reversal counter and other than pelipper, nothing can really switch into EQs, so be careful to not let pelipper die.
Other than that, seems ok.
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k, I'll try Mean Look on Jynx, looks risky IMO
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Old October 16th, 2005 (9:53 AM).
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k, I'll try Mean Look on Jynx, looks risky IMO
Meh, I use Jynx with your set, works fine enough, especially late-game.
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facade on raticate is nice if it a statusabsorber
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Pax Deorum, don't do that please, its called SPAM.
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Um... so what? He was rejecting it, and there wasn't much else to say other than 'no'.
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Raticate (M) @ Choice Band ** Plague
Trait: Guts
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Shadow Ball
- Sleep Talk/Quick Attack

Maybe QA over Sleep Talk if you need an Endure/Reversal counter.

Takes status moves

Jynx (F) @ Lum Berry ** Blowjob Kween
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss
- Psychic

Leftovers doesn't help Jynx. UU needs berries on sweepers.

Cool Sweeper

Aggron (M) @ Choice Band ** Triceratops
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 78 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Rock]

Ok.

being part Rock means it likes to switch in NVE CB hits and Focus Punch on the switch

Pelipper (M) @ Leftovers/Lum Bery ** Helliper
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 202 Def / 56 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Agility
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Lefties or Lum. Your choice.

Helliper is cool

Hypno (M) @ Leftovers ** Freud
Trait: Insomnia
EVs: 228 HP / 180 Def / 102 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Reflect
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Wish

Hypno's mean.

Special Sponge and supports

Raichu (M) @ Petaya Berry ** Yellow Rat
Trait: Static
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Spd / 246 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Surf
- Thunderbolt

Alright.

GG Quagsire
Well, you've got all of the common physical/special resists. You may want to consider getting an Endure/Rev Sub/Rev counter. Raticate would do if you had Quick Attack. The thing is, is that you wouldn't have to worry your head off about status moves if you had Lum Berry, as Leftovers (in UU) only contributes to the wellfare of really good UU tanks, not so much sweepers that shouldn't be taking hits after a cetrain point anyway. The benefits of Lum Berry outweigh the disadvantages.

It looks like you may have some Gligar problems, your only counters to him being weak to certain moves of his (Jynx, Raichu, Pelliper). You can outstall Slowbro with Hypno.

As rediculous as it sounds, Shedinja likes your team after Raticate and Aggron are dead. It shouldn't raise too much of a problem, as he's pretty uncommon in the UU metagame today. You may also have Grumpig problems...

But overall it's a decent team. Just a little bit of tweaking is needed.
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Old October 17th, 2005 (8:37 AM). Edited October 17th, 2005 by Pax Deorum.
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Pax Deorum, don't do that please, its called SPAM.
Wrong, I didn't SPAM, I rejected an idea, Facade is too situational to be abused, hence I run Double Edge, awsome power and Raticate isn't meant to take hits anyway, so recoil won't affect him much. A Gutsed Raticate with Choice Band will kill anything that doesn't resist it really. It was you jc_rcw who is spamming really, if you don't have any advice to give, don't post.

To Istor:

Choice Band Quick Attack is the most boring thing I've ever seen, I prefer Sleep Talk, lets me switch Raticate even on sleeping moves and thus can abuse him even if he's asleep. If Reversalers really give me that much trouble, I can give Raichu Encore to encore their Endure/Sub, I then am able to Sub and if they get to 1 HP, it doesn't make much of a difference since I'm behind a Sub

Lum is nice on Jynx, it's true she likes to draw pokemon with Thunder Wave, i.e. Hypno, her biggest threat

Pelliper must have Leftovers, it's my main switch in on Fighting moves, Pelleper is resistant or immune to Aggron's 4x weaknesses, Gligar cannot kill Pelipper that easily, read 100 Base Defence. It'll laugh at HP Flying and Gligar dies to an Ice Beam after it. If Gligar is a problem, I'll just throw in Encore on Raichu again to Encore his SD.


Thank You for your help :)
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