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Old October 17th, 2005 (8:44 AM).
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Eh, randomly selected Pokemon, no specific strategy, I just quickly made this team for a battle with a friend. Lost with it too, so help me fix it up. =P

All Pokemon at lv100.

Swampert @ Lansat Berry
Brick Break
Earthquake
Surf
Ice Beam

Magcargo @ Leftovers
Flamethrower
Light Screen
Sunny Day
Toxic

Zapdos @ Magnet (Don't go telling me that 10% increase is sucky and all, 'cause I already know. I put it in there randomly and quickly, so don't kill me.)
Arial Ace
Double Team
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt

Registeel @ Liechi Berry - Almost a repeat of Swampert, with a little higher attack.
Brick Break
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Seismic Toss

Gardevoir @ Lum Berry
Calm Mind
Psychic
Hypnosis
Future Sight

Cacturne @ Bright Powder
Needle Arm
Solar Beam
Sunny Day
Spikes

So eh, begin the critisism.
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Magcargo is a major liability as is cacturne..I won't bother with them..Secondly registeel is a mess.If you want a regi, i'll suggest regice..

Swampert[+Att,-Sp]@leftovers
EVs - eww.SpDef,Att,SpAtt,hp...make something up.
surf/ice beam
curse
earthquake
rest

Zapdos[modest]@leftovers
EVs - 240 Sp,around 200 SpAtt,rest into SpDef/hp
thunderbolt
HP grass
substitute
thunderwave


Gardevoir[modest]
EVs - 176 HP,154 Def, 20 Sp, 160 SpAtt
thunderbolt
calm mind
psychic
will-o-wisp/rest
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For future referrence, while in team builder, go File -> Export to Text. That way you don't have to write it all out.
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Old October 18th, 2005 (8:04 AM).
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=P How'd you guess I typed it out? Thanks.

Well, Magcargo and eh.. Cacturne.. liabilities mean disadvantage right? o_o; Well time to try out the three modifications you say, and Regice I'll try out too. Thanks.
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Old October 18th, 2005 (8:29 AM).
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Eh, randomly selected Pokemon, no specific strategy, I just quickly made this team for a battle with a friend. Lost with it too, so help me fix it up. =P

All Pokemon at lv100.

Swampert @ Lansat Berry
Brick Break
Earthquake
Surf
Ice Beam

What is a lansat berry? The moves are good though

Magcargo @ Leftovers
Flamethrower
Light Screen
Sunny Day
Toxic

I don't use Magcargo, but Rock Slide needed.

Zapdos @ Magnet (Don't go telling me that 10% increase is sucky and all, 'cause I already know. I put it in there randomly and quickly, so don't kill me.)
Arial Ace Drill Peck
Double Team HP Grass
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt



Registeel @ Liechi Berry - Almost a repeat of Swampert, with a little higher attack.
Brick Break
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Seismic Toss

OK but I don't know

Gardevoir @ Lum Berry
Calm Mind
Psychic
Hypnosis
Future Sight

WHERE IS T/BOLT?????

Cacturne @ Bright Powder
Needle Arm
Solar Beam
Sunny Day
Spikes

Needs Faint Attack if an attacker or the following set if protector(no reference to me)

So eh, begin the critisism.
Also, never have two same type moves.

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Spikes
Dbl Team
Toxic
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swampy needs more curse or protect. Just to assure you about that, think about it:

Brick Break is super effective on Steel, Rock, Ice, and Normal Types

Surf/EQ take on steel and rock. Swampy itse;f takes ice beams pretty well, and even then you should prolly have special wall to switch into to take it. As for normal types, Swampy doesn't really need to be able to 1-2HKO normal types. Curse+EQ or Surf should do fine.
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Sandstorm
Spikes
Dbl Team
Toxic

HAhaaa
No.

Cacturne[adamant]@leftovers
EVs - max Att and Sp...rest in hp...=(
focus punch
HP fire/HP dark/needle arm
substitute
leech seed....

With HP fire he hopes to be a skarmbliss counter.
But dont.....Only use it if u have sandstorm inplay and u evidently don't have a T-Tar so might was well scrape it.Notable is the fact that he also learns spikes...BUT.....his defenses suck...SO.



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Well, Magcargo and eh.. Cacturne.. liabilities mean disadvantage right? o_o; Well time to try out the three modifications you say, and Regice I'll try out too. Thanks.
Yea basically thats what i mean....They are weak candidates..
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Old October 19th, 2005 (7:14 AM).
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I actually prefer the attacker. I just pointed out another set that could be used, with Sand Veil and all. It may not work, but I don't use Cacturne. Most of these are BL-UU anyway. I only have sets for OUs and some BLs.
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Cacturne needs more Leech Seed/Focus Punch/Thunder Punch/Substitute

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Hm well, might as well remove Magcargo for a Blissey. And I'll try out the new Cacturne now. Haven't got to trying the Pokemon out yet.

And yeah, Swampert is pretty well in offense. But I believe I'll be dead if a faster Pokemon come along, like Sceptile lets say..
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Once you have made your team 1337 enough you'll have to learn how to switch effectively
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Leeted teams? Naw, I'll go for good ones lol.

And thanks. Now someone have a good Blissey moveset?
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1337 > leet. 1337 = greatness. 1337 = me

as for the Blissey MS, the standard is:


Blissey @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold(+Def, - Atk)
EVs: 12HP/252 Def/ And the rest i don;t know =/, but they go in sp. atk and Sp. def
-Seismic Toss
-Aromatherapy
-Softboiled
-Ice Beam/Thunder Wave/ Counter


Ice Beam to stop McGar and ghosts(also good for duggie), Thunder Wave just because it's 1337, and Counter for those who like to lure in physical attackers and take 'em out in one shot.
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Cacturne (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 35 HP / 220 Atk / 255 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Leech Seed
- Needle Arm
- Substitute

Swampert (M) @ Lansat Berry
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 51 HP / 21 Atk / 108 Def / 153 Spd / 96 SAtk / 81 SDef
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Def / 246 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Zapdos @ Magnet
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 21 HP / 27 Atk / 241 Spd / 200 SAtk / 21 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Drill Peck
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Registeel @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 195 HP / 255 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Seismic Toss

Gardevoir (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 176 HP / 154 Def / 20 Spd / 160 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

Just finished re-customizing the team. There you go.
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uhhhh.........Blissey doesn't need speed. Just put that in HP and/or special defense
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Cacturne (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 35 HP / 220 Atk / 255 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Leech Seed
- Needle Arm
- Substitute

Personally i just wouldn't use it, but do what you do.

Swampert (M) @ Lansat Berry
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 51 HP / 21 Atk / 108 Def / 153 Spd / 96 SAtk / 81 SDef
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Curse or Protect over Brick Break.


Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Def / 246 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Like i said, no speed. Put those EVs in HP and/or sp. def.

Zapdos @ Magnet
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 21 HP / 27 Atk / 241 Spd / 200 SAtk / 21 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Drill Peck
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

I like Light screen/Sub over Drill Peck, just to keep things neat and supportive.

Registeel @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 195 HP / 255 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Seismic Toss

If your using this you might as well use Agiligross.

Gardevoir (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 176 HP / 154 Def / 20 Spd / 160 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

Good. Also consider Fire punch over tbolt or Will-o-Wisp.

Just finished re-customizing the team. There you go.

Decent team overall.

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Cacturne (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 35 HP / 220 Atk / 255 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Leech Seed
- Needle Arm
- Substitute

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 51 HP / 144 Atk / 108 Def / 96 SAtk / 81 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Speed)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam/Curse
- Surf/Curse

I've always loved Cursepert
Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Def / 246 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

Zapdos @ Magnet
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 21 HP / 241 Spd / 200 SAtk / 48 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt

Registeel @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 195 HP / 255 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Seismic Toss

Gardevoir (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 176 HP / 154 Def / 20 Spd / 160 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Speed, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

I dont like the power boost over speed boost so I think it should be Timid>Modest IMO

Just finished re-customizing the team. There you go.
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Aright, I'll try speedless Blissey.

And well, A Curse-Pert...lets see. But of all moves, why Substitute on Zapdos suddenly? And the speed boost on Gardevoir sounds better. Thanks.
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Subwaving is a good tactic. You substitute on the switch, then thunderwave anoything that needs to be waved. Also good for getting an extra hit in before you have to switch out when the sub breaks. AS for speed boost on Gardy, that's my preference, but sometimes i think about a couple of base 80-90 speeders that don't use a speed nature at times.
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Hm, the speed thing makes sense. But not the strategy for the Subwaving. Can you explain it more simply?
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subwaving gardy really isn't a good idea, since the main switch in for it is either celebi (who resists psychic and has natural cure), blissey (who takes special moves like nothing and has natural cure), and snorlax (who takes special moves very well and is too slow to care about t-wave. Will-o-wisp is definetely a good option on Gardevoir though

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he was talking about the Zapdos. And i don't really know how to put it more simply, really. Just try it yourself sometime. Gotta learn how to predict a switch, however.
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Cursepert, if anything, would be inclined to focus on SpDef more than Def

Subwaving is cool....Try it out and learn how to use it.

Registeel[+SpDef,-SpAtt]
EVs - hp,SpDef,Att
curse
rest
HP steel/rockslide
earthquake

Meh....How could anyone lump arty with this thing?
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