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Old October 21st, 2005 (2:47 PM).
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Nicpert is supposed to be based more on defense (according to my friend in posting its EVs):

Swampert (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
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problem with that swampert, is that it just doesn't do much IMO.Thats why i rather cursepert anyday.
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Granted, I have the same opinion, as I've only seen it in use but one time vs. me. It did a decent job of torturing me, and nearly kicked my butt. But i can't see much use in it either =/. But if my friend gives it such a high opinion, then i believe it is quite good. You must have to build your team around it or something.
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Hm... Subwaving, eh, Substituting, ThunderWaving whoever, attack from behind the plush doll, then making a switch as soon as the plush doll breaks...?

By the way, Cursepert didn't do seriously well in a few battles 'round last night. Its defense and attack went up and Earthquake did a little. But for one thing, a Sunny Beamer hit me out before I could go with Ice Beam on it. So eh, don't you think a little more speed on Cursepert would help?
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when you have 66% of your regular speed after one curse, why more speed?

Ice Beam's for Salamence anyway.
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Meh, wasn't enough speed. Got killed anyway.. =P

And Ice Beam is also for oncoming evil grass Pokemon or Zapdos. Then again, electricity won't work, 'cause 'Pert's got ground.
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don't leave swampert in against zapdos tho...
It will be packing HP grass..and that means lights out for swampy.

If its a sunnybeamer, then it probably has chlorophyll...in which case u could max Sp Evs and have a + Sp nature and u still won't be able to outrun them.
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chlorophyll sunnybeamers have 197< speed base so they have more speed than base 130ers, like Jolteon and Aerodactyl.
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either way it's not wise to leave swampy in against any grass type that utilizes a grass type move. Swampy might be able to take at least one of those attacks and counter with Ice BEam, but why take so much damage when you can just switch to a special wall/resistant type?
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That's true then. So what do we have to counter it with then, Registeel can do that right?
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for the swampert i think u should have left muddy water
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Muddy.. Water... of all attacks why Muddy Water?

Comparison to Surf:
Base attack: 95 Surf, 95 Mudy Water
Accuracy: 100 Surf, 85 Muddy Water
Effects: None Surf, 30% Chance to lower Accuracy
PP: 15/24 Surf, 10/16 Muddy Water

So even without the Accuracy dropper, Surf is better than Muddy Water. =P
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Salamence has a X4 grass resist and a fire resist.
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either way it's not wise to leave swampy in against any grass type that utilizes a grass type move. Swampy might be able to take at least one of those attacks and counter with Ice BEam, but why take so much damage when you can just switch to a special wall/resistant type?
He also dies aginst HP [Grass] users, Raikou, and maybe Houndoom.
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yes it does, given that most of the time it shall be a 2HKO
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Well, I did say I could switch to Registeel at that point, but Blissey would be able to take it too, wo'nt it?
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yes'm it would. Just beware of some of the few grass types that have a grass move, cuz usually they have leech seed, which will just suck the hell outta Blissey
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True, but Leftovers and Milk Drink heals it back doesn't it? Only problem is that it'll keep eating HP all the time, even with other Pokemon right?
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* leftovers and Softboiled >.>.

And even that doesnt help recover quick enough to cover for damage done by leech seed. It sucks it up too fast
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Erm... right. Softboiled. I mixed Blissey up with a Miltank on my other team.

So what do you suggest I do for that then? Switching to Zapdos and Drill Peck on the Grass Pokemon would help, right?
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Erm... right. Softboiled. I mixed Blissey up with a Miltank on my other team.

So what do you suggest I do for that then? Switching to Zapdos and Drill Peck on the Grass Pokemon would help, right?
That's an option, or if you have any fire type, burn them to death :D
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Not really. Blissey replaced Magcargo in the team. =P So I don't have any Fire Pokemon on that team.
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Zapdos has better things to do besides drill peck, unless u can baton pass some SD to it, don't bother.
Blissey can take any special hit, but the pt is that other than HP grass[predictable and rarely used by actual grass pokemon.] and sceptile, no one uses offensive grass moves.
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Sunny beams are offensive grass moves. =P I use them all the time. Well, Zapdos' has HP Grass currently instead of Drill Peck at the moment, which I found luckily useful.

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And if u can't predict a sunnybeamer.....
then quite pokemon.

Blissey can eat any special attack.End of discussion.
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