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Old November 3rd, 2005 (12:38 PM).
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unpredictable is not always good.

no one expects Fearow to bust out a Faint attack, but it really isn't that effective. make sure the thing can at least support the unpredictabilty. no one expects my Fury Swipes Slaking, and because it has the 2 highest base attack in the game and STAB, it works.

to be unpredictable, know what is predictable. to do that, you must predict.

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NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
our main weapon is fear! fear and supri
our TWO main weapons are fear and suprise, and...
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Old November 3rd, 2005 (3:35 PM).
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Umby sent out Suicune!
Tmnt Boy sent out Magneton!
Magnetone used Substitute!
Suicune used Surf!

(Yah, I could see the sub coming mile away. Then from that action, i knew what Boy was gonna do next: )

Umby withdrew Suicune!
Umby sent out Dugtrio!
Magneton used Thunderbolt!
It doesn't affect Dugtrio.......

Just be careful, as you're not always going to be able to predict right, as not all players have the same thought pattern.
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Old November 3rd, 2005 (8:32 PM).
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Meh... a Thunderbolting Magenton, that's obvious ain't it? If my Suicune got put up with some other Pokemon than the usual Baton Passer Jolteon, I'd switch to Aggron or... something of that sort. =P

That's not prediction dude, its intuition. Nobody leaves a Grass Pokemon against a Water Pokemon, 'cause Ice moves are evil. That's not prediction too... heh.
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Old November 4th, 2005 (7:28 AM).
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Uh....no. Most Grass types will rape water types, regardless of Ice Beam.

Venusaur used Sleep Powder!
Swampert fell asleep!
Swampert is fast asleep.

Venusaur used Hidden Power!
It's Super Effective!
Swampert woke up!
Swampert used Ice Beam!
It's Super effective!
(Yes venusaur survives Ice Beams, especially non-STABed ones)

Venusaur used Hidden Power!
It's Super Effective!
Swampert fainted!

Just because some guys are able to do so many things, it doesn't mean anything if the opposition survives easily, being able to counter back with something that screws you. Even Suicune can't stand Maggie Thunderbolts without 3-4 CMs.
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Old November 6th, 2005 (12:15 AM).
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o.o; *evil things*

Well, no use keeping a Suicune against Magneton y'know...
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Old November 6th, 2005 (9:48 AM).
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suicune can deal with magneton to some extent....especially with a few CM under ur belt.
If not then just roar it out.
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Old November 6th, 2005 (12:13 PM).
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And, like i said, if you predict a Magneton's sub, you won't be screwed later on. If i were to have switched straight into Dugtrio in that instance, for example, I might have broken the sub with EQ, but Maggie would've still taken me down with HP Grass.
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Old November 7th, 2005 (5:11 AM).
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Yup, and that's where I become unpredictable... well, sorta.

I'll switch to Scizor now, with HP Fire, and burn it away... =P
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Don't tell me you gave Scizor HP Fire............
Please tell me you're sacrificing it (which you shouldn't do anyway as you should have a special tank on your team anyway) instead to Maggie's HP Fire.
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Uh.. Magneton can't have one HP Fire and HP Grass at the same time, can it? And an HP Fire wouldn't have been good against the Water Pokemon... well I guess switching to Dugtrio ain't a good idea 'cause the HP Grass can kill it too.

I'm confused now.. which HP did we start out the Magneton with?
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Old November 8th, 2005 (8:02 AM).
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idk, but iirc, Modest Maggie + Max Sp. Atk + Has substitute up + HP Fire can still take out duggie. But your previous post confused me on whether Magneton or Scizor was using HP Fire in ur scenario, which was what i was asking about.
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Oooh, one tough Magneton.

My Scizor has HP Fire, which is currently the only fire type attack on my team, so I could use it on Magneton, can't I? The Magneton originally had HP Grass for ground Pokemon, so I go off to Scizor.

Eh, is steel weak to ground or grass?
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Old November 9th, 2005 (8:18 AM).
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Oooh, one tough Magneton.

My Scizor has HP Fire, which is currently the only fire type attack on my team, so I could use it on Magneton, can't I? The Magneton originally had HP Grass for ground Pokemon, so I go off to Scizor.

Eh, is steel weak to ground or grass?

Scizor with HP Fire = no. It doesnt have the special attack to use it. IF u want Scizor to kill maggie, use HP Ground to go off its 130 base Atk.


And steel is weak to ground, resistant to grass.
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Right then, but that'll just be going for anti-electric to counter HP Grass on one well... does that mean then removing Nidoking completely would be good? 'Cause its basically anti electric right now.

I just put in a basic Nidoking into the team if you were wondering, in place of Zapdos, with Thunderbolt.
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Old November 9th, 2005 (8:34 AM).
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Nido's better as a physical sweeper. Lemme see the team again? File -> Export To Text
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Old November 9th, 2005 (8:51 AM).
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Meh, no need for me to take the time to open up the Netbattle. It takes too long to load here anyway.

Its basically Nidoking with no items right now. The nature is set to hardy.
EVs are full on Attack and Speed. Thats all.
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Old November 9th, 2005 (2:27 PM).
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why Brick Break and not Sludge Bomb/Rock Slide?
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Old November 9th, 2005 (3:24 PM).
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If u use Subpunch, theres no need for Brick Break. However, if ur using Focus Punch and Brick Break, you might as well give it Sludge Bomb/Rock slide over sub, and give it choice band/leftovers.
And all pokemon should have a nature, as it benefits u more in the end.
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Hm... I've removed sub punch for both Rock Slide and Sludge bomb. Its now a full attacker.
Oh yeah.. I've forgotten the name... its that nature that - on SA and + on A. Should I use that then?
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Old November 10th, 2005 (7:59 AM).
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Thats Adamant nature. That should do fine. Make sure the item is either Choice Band or Leftovers.
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Old November 10th, 2005 (8:04 AM).
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=P It already IS Leftovers. I've edited it last time, but I forgot to write it down here.

Oh well, I still have to test the Nidoking out now.
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