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Old October 19th, 2005 (1:29 PM).
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Anyway, I know most of you don't use Dunsparce. What could A stupid worm-mole-whatever thing could do? Other than that [Look below] I dont think much, but let's try.

Dunsparce
@ King's Rock
[EVs: ATK Max] [Nature: Adamant] [Trait: Serene Grace]
[Deviruchi's note: I dont know about the other EVs, but the ATK needs to be max]
-Thunder Wave
-Headbutt
-Endure/Physical Attack
-Flail/Other Physical

First of all, you should know Dunsparce SPD isn't much of a thing to like, and you MUST attack first with it. Byt this time, you all should have realized the main point is to make the opponent Flinched, so you need to attack first. BPassing Speed o Dunsparce will be a WHOLE LOTTA HELP.


I plan on putting weird in my team, and that would have to be either Dusnparce or Qwilfish.
So, any comments? Suggestions?
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Old October 19th, 2005 (5:01 PM).
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King's Rock isn't doing it any good. Since its effect only applies to moves already without an effect, it won't do anything to enhance Headbutt. Use Leftovers. Give it Rock Slide in case you encounter a Ghost, and Substitute as a final move.

Give it 252 HP/252 Atk/6 whatever with Adamant

Of course, this will only work if you have a 31 HP IV, so you can get 101 Subs, so it might be a little difficult to do off of NB, which you have not said whether or not it was for. But on NB, don't expect to be liked when using a hax pokemon.

Btw, Haxsparce has already been invented, so don't try claiming that set.
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Old October 20th, 2005 (7:20 AM).
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Dunsparse has poor speed, poor defenses, and poor SA. What CAN you do with it? You can't tank, due to poor defenses. You cant phy sweep, due to low speed. And you can't annoy because you will be killed. At least Smeargle can learn any move it wants...

But a moveset...
T/Wave to counter poor SPD
Sub
Flail
Something to disable an enemy
@Salac 252 ATK/252 HP/6 SPD
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Old October 20th, 2005 (7:25 AM).
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....................it's for fun haxing. Didn't you get the memo?:

DUNSPARCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come one, come all! Come see the amazing Dunsparce hax the hell outta your team! It's amazing fun!


WARNING: usage of this creature is not to be taken for serious purposes.
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Old October 20th, 2005 (8:06 AM).
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What's with all the rampant Dunsparce bashing? Gawd, Arty is going to have a fit when he sees this. XD

But seriously, the little guy packs quite a punch actually. I think this one would work fairly well;

Dunsparce @ Leftovers
EVs: Atk 252, Def 252, HP 6
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Serene Grace
Body Slam
Shadow Ball
Rock Slide
Counter

There's really not much point in giving it T-Wave since a Serene Graced Body Slam has a 60% paralysis rate which will do the same job fairly well. With maximized defense EVs Dunsparce can take a hit from any non-buffed, non-C-Bander physical sweeper and with Counter it's basically a guaranteed KO. Dunsparce might not be in a very good condition afterwards but it will have dealt a blow to the opposition all the same.
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Old October 20th, 2005 (8:17 AM).
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Come on people, what do you have against dunsparce?
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Originally Posted by elitefour_protector
Dunsparse has poor speed, poor defenses, and poor SA. What CAN you do with it? You can't tank, due to poor defenses. You cant phy sweep, due to low speed. And you can't annoy because you will be killed. At least Smeargle can learn any move it wants...

But a moveset...
T/Wave to counter poor SPD
Sub
Flail
Something to disable an enemy
@Salac 252 ATK/252 HP/6 SPD
That's the worst dunsparce I have ever seen... Ego's set those indeed work, because that's the one I use. I have taken down a few suicunes, countless metagrosses, salamances and other overated (and overused) pokemon with it. I prefer giving it some sp defense evs though. So the dunsparce should have:

Dunsparce @ Leftovers/Chesto berry
Trait: Serene grace
EVs: Atk 252, Def 252, HP 6/Sp. Defense 170, Def 170, Attack 170/252 defense, 252 sp defense, 6 HP/One with sp attack evs instead of attack evs.
Nature: Adamant (only if you decide to use a physical dunsparce)/Modest (if you decide to use a special attacker dunsparce)
Trait: Serene Grace
Body Slam/Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball/Flamethrower
Rock Slide/Ice beam
Counter (Counter is there to take down salas, gyaradoses and tyranitars (they usualy don't bother to dragon dance against a dunsparce wich is a big mistake)/Rest (only to be used if dunsparce is holding a chesto berry)

There's no point in giving it thunderwave due to serene grace giving body slam a 60% chance to paralyze.
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Old October 20th, 2005 (9:06 AM).
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What's with all the rampant Dunsparce bashing? Gawd, Arty is going to have a fit when he sees this. XD

But seriously, the little guy packs quite a punch actually. I think this one would work fairly well;

Dunsparce @ Leftovers
EVs: Atk 252, Def 252, HP 6
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Serene Grace
Body Slam
Shadow Ball
Rock Slide
Counter

There's really not much point in giving it T-Wave since a Serene Graced Body Slam has a 60% paralysis rate which will do the same job fairly well. With maximized defense EVs Dunsparce can take a hit from any non-buffed, non-C-Bander physical sweeper and with Counter it's basically a guaranteed KO. Dunsparce might not be in a very good condition afterwards but it will have dealt a blow to the opposition all the same.

like i said, it's really not supposed to be taken seriously. Maybe UU, but otherwise it's better off for haxing fun. Twave/Glare is to leave room for a headbutt for flinchhax.
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Old October 21st, 2005 (2:49 AM).
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like i said, it's really not supposed to be taken seriously
That is exactly why it owns most OU players, they think it's too bad for dragon dancing and attack straight on and that's when you can use counter and KO the tyranitar/salamence/Gyarados/Whatever
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Old October 21st, 2005 (4:02 AM).
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That is exactly why it owns most OU players, they think it's too bad for dragon dancing and attack straight on and that's when you can use counter and KO the tyranitar/salamence/Gyarados/Whatever
Going offtopic, but yeah, thats what most people are like to UU Pokes... eg, my Swalot.

Which Counters Earthquake's by Metagross/Salamence for a guaranteed OHKO.
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Old October 21st, 2005 (6:59 AM).
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I'll give that credit to counter dunsparce, but most OU players should know what they're doing and just annoy/stall the hell outta it, as once that twave hits you then Dunsparce has the advantage.

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There's no point in giving it thunderwave due to serene grace giving body slam a 60% chance to paralyze.
T-Wave/Glare is for the fun haxing set, giving way to a moveslot for headbutt, which is quite funny for flinchhaxing after the twave/glare lowers speed. Otherwise, if your taking dunsparce seriously, body slam is prolly better.
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