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Old October 31st, 2005 (4:14 AM). Edited November 25th, 2005 by BrainWave.
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I didn't really know where did I go wrong for my netbattle, or maybe I'm playing more on my other games.

Chameonspecial sweeper
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Modest nature
EVs-252 on Sp.attack and speed each
Heat wave/flamethrower
Dragon claw
HP grass
Subsitute

Igneouspsy. sweeper
[email protected] berry
Adament nature
EVs-252 on attack, but I don't know what to put for the rest
Sword Dance/Bulk up(can't think of anything else, so......)
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break

Speedashbaton passer
[email protected](what else can I put?)
Jolly nature
EVs-252 on attack and speed each
Arieal ace
Silver wind
Baton pass
Sword Dance

Clashersweeper's backup
Elf-like skinny deoxys (speed)@Scope lens
Modest nature
EV-252 on Sp.attack and speed each
Calm Mind
Fire punch
Psychic
Thunderbolt

SolarSupporter and annoyer
[email protected]
Timid nature
EV-252 speed, 120 sp.defence, 112 defence, 26 HP
Encore
Helping hand
Leech seed
Sleep powder

Cyclubstank and staller, but I need something better
[email protected] berry
Impish natue
EV-252HP, 104sp.defence, 96 defence and 58 attack
Protect
Shadow ball
Confuse ray/Will-o-wisp
Pain split

OK! Go ahead! Laugh at it! I think there still should be changes around here
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Old October 31st, 2005 (5:53 AM).
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Originally Posted by pikadon92
I didn't really know where did I go wrong for my netbattle, or maybe I'm playing more on my other games.

Chameonspecial sweeper
[email protected]
Modest nature
EVs-225 on Sp.attack and speed each
Heat wave/flamethrower
Dragon claw
HP grass
Subsitute

225 each? where do the rest of the evs go? Focus Punch over Substitute.

Igneouspsy. sweeper
[email protected] berry
Adament nature
EVs-225 on attack, but I don't know what to put for the rest
Sword Dance/Bulk up(can't think of anything else, so......)
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break

Don't use ubers in the normal metagame, that's cheap and noone will battle you. max attack/speed. Fire Blast over Brick Break. You might want to put some special attack too.

Speedashbaton passer
[email protected](what else can I put?)
Jolly nature
EVs-225 on attack and speed each
Arieal ace
Silver wind
Baton pass
Sword Dance

HP Bug over Silver Wind, Substitute over Aerial Ace.

Clashersweeper's backup
Elf-like skinny deoxys (speed)@Scope lens
Modest nature
EV-225 on Sp.attack and speed each
Calm Mind
Fire punch
Psychic
Thunderbolt

Just use Deoxys-F, it's plenty fast. 252 is max btw, not 225.

SolarSupporter and annoyer
[email protected]
Timid nature
EV-252 speed, 120 sp.defence, 112 defence, 26 HP
Encore
Helping hand
Leech seed
Sleep powder

helping hand, wtf? Sub over HH please.

Cyclubstank and staller, but I need something better
[email protected] berry
Impish natue
EV-252HP, 104sp.defence, 96 defence and 58 attack
Protect
Shadow ball
Confuse ray/Will-o-wisp
Pain split

WoW over C-Ray.

OK! Go ahead! Laugh at it! I think there still should be changes around here
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Old October 31st, 2005 (9:28 AM).
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Originally Posted by pikadon92
I didn't really know where did I go wrong for my netbattle, or maybe I'm playing more on my other games.

Chameonspecial sweeper
[email protected]
Modest nature Timid
EVs-225 on Sp.attack and speed each
Heat wave/flamethrower
Dragon claw
HP grass
Subsitute Endure

Igneousphy. sweeper
[email protected] berry
Adament nature
EVs-225 on attack, but I don't know what to put for the rest252 ATK/220 SPD/rest in SA
Sword Dance/Bulk up(can't think of anything else, so......)
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break Eruption

Speedashbaton passer
[email protected](what else can I put?) Lefties
Jolly nature
EVs-225 on attack and speed each252 HP/252 SPD/6 ATK
Arieal ace
Silver windSubstitute
Baton pass
Sword Dance

Clashersweeper's backup
Elf-like skinny deoxys (speed)@Scope lensDeoxys-E
Modest nature
EV-225 on Sp.attack and speed each
Calm Mind
Fire punch
Psychic
Thunderbolt
No idea
SolarSupporter and annoyer
[email protected]
Timid nature
EV-252 speed, 120 sp.defence, 112 defence, 26 HP
Encore
Helping hand
Leech seed
Sleep powder
Jumpluff sucks
Cyclubstank and staller, but I need something better
[email protected] berry
Impish natue
EV-252HP, 104sp.defence, 96 defence and 58 attack 252 DEF/252 SD/6 HP
Protect Ice Beam
Shadow ball
Confuse ray
Pain split Will-o-wisp

OK! Go ahead! Laugh at it! I think there still should be changes around here
-_-"
Not too bad really. Heat Wave and FT is simply a matter of preference. I like heat wave for the 2v2 effect and the added power.
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Old October 31st, 2005 (3:32 PM).
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pikadon92
I didn't really know where did I go wrong for my netbattle, or maybe I'm playing more on my other games.

Chameonspecial sweeper
[email protected]
Modest nature
EVs-225 on Sp.attack and speed each
Heat wave/flamethrower
Dragon claw
HP grass
Subsitute

C_Dog, you can handle this one =/

Igneouspsy. sweeper
[email protected] berry/Leftovers
Adamant nature
EVs-225 on attack, but I don't know what to put for the rest
Sword Dance/Bulk up(can't think of anything else, so......)
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Fire Blast

I don't use ubers often, but i do know you'll wanna take advantage of Fire Blast


Speedashbaton passer
[email protected](what else can I put?)
Jolly nature
EVs-225 on attack and speed each
Substitute
Silver wind
Baton pass
Sword Dance

Silver Wind gets to OHKO Zam and get a chance at passing other stats besides speed.

Clashersweeper's backup
Elf-like skinny deoxys (speed)@Scope lens
Modest nature
EV-225 on Sp.attack and speed each
Calm Mind
Fire punch
Psychic
Thunderbolt

I can't really comment on this, as i really dont know which deoxys this is.



SolarSupporter and annoyer
[email protected]
Timid nature
EV-252 speed, 120 sp.defence, 112 defence, 26 HP
Encore
Helping hand
Leech seed
Sleep powder

k. If you really wanna take advantage of a Chlorophyll pokemon, go with exeggutor. It gets sleep powder too :)


Cyclubstank and staller, but I need something better
[email protected] berry/Leftovers
Impish natue
EV-252HP, 104sp.defence, 96 defence and 58 attack
Seismic Toss/Protect
Shadow ball
Will-o-wisp
Pain split


Confuse Ray = a little overrated on Clops.

OK! Go ahead! Laugh at it! I think there still should be changes around here
-_-"

Not the worst, but not the best either. Reember: the max EVs you should have in a stat is 252. Not 225. Watch out for those nast boltbeamers on this team.
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Old November 1st, 2005 (3:33 AM).
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Originally Posted by pikadon92
I didn't really know where did I go wrong for my netbattle, or maybe I'm playing more on my other games.

Chameonspecial sweeper
[email protected]
Modest nature
EVs-225 on Sp.attack and speed each
Heat wave/flamethrower
Dragon claw
HP grass
Subsitute

Flamethrower, 12 HP EVs, 252 Speed, rest in Sp. Attack. TIMID

Igneouspsy. sweeper
[email protected] berry
Adament nature
EVs-225 on attack, but I don't know what to put for the rest
Sword Dance/Bulk up(can't think of anything else, so......)
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break

I presume this is for uber, Sweords Dance/Earthquake/Rock Slide/HP Bug. 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP. Give him Salac for an easy sweep

Speedashbaton passer
[email protected](what else can I put?)
Jolly nature
EVs-225 on attack and speed each
Arieal ace
Silver wind
Baton pass
Sword Dance

Lead with this so you can pass to Groudon, Sub over Aerial Ace. Keep subbing to get Speed boosts and the pass them. 252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP. Jolly

Clashersweeper's backup
Elf-like skinny deoxys (speed)@Scope lens
Modest nature
EV-225 on Sp.attack and speed each
Calm Mind
Fire punch
Psychic
Thunderbolt

WTF, WHO MAXES DEOXYS-E'S SPEED. Give him enough Speed EVs to outspeed everything. Max Sp. Attack, put the rest in Defence. Recover over Fire Punch

SolarSupporter and annoyer
[email protected]
Timid nature
EV-252 speed, 120 sp.defence, 112 defence, 26 HP
Encore
Helping hand
Leech seed
Sleep powder

Why am I seeing Helping Hand? Give him Substitute

Cyclubstank and staller, but I need something better
[email protected] berry
Impish natue
EV-252HP, 104sp.defence, 96 defence and 58 attack
Protect
Shadow ball
Confuse ray/Will-o-wisp
Pain split

OK! Go ahead! Laugh at it! I think there still should be changes around here

Just use Suicune, ask someone else for the EVs
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Old November 3rd, 2005 (1:10 PM).
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So that you know, for NB teams go to file ------->export to text to make it easier
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Old November 25th, 2005 (4:53 PM). Edited November 26th, 2005 by BrainWave.
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I forgot to tell you that this is for 2vs2 battle only, haven't I? Anyway, who has a suggestion for tank and staller. And what should I replace Jumpluff with?
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Old November 26th, 2005 (11:43 AM).
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Originally Posted by pikadon92
I didn't really know where did I go wrong for my netbattle, or maybe I'm playing more on my other games.

Chameonspecial sweeper
[email protected]
Modest nature
EVs-252 on Sp.attack and speed each
Heat wave/flamethrower
Dragon claw
HP grass
Subsitute
sub, bd, hp:flying, earthquake @salac. 252 speed/252 atk adament.

Igneouspsy. sweeper
[email protected] berry
Adament nature
EVs-252 on attack, but I don't know what to put for the rest
Sword Dance/Bulk up(can't think of anything else, so......)
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break
no need for leichi with swords dance. overheat over brick break. full speed and jolly o.O

Speedashbaton passer
[email protected](what else can I put?)
Jolly nature
EVs-252 on attack and speed each
Arieal ace
Silver wind
Baton pass
Sword Dance
LEFTOVERS. and substitute over aerial ace.

Clashersweeper's backup
Elf-like skinny deoxys (speed)@Scope lens
Modest nature
EV-252 on Sp.attack and speed each
Calm Mind
Fire punch
Psychic
Thunderbolt
... no offense but deoxys-e sucks. use cb deoxys-fr. shadowball, extremespeed, superpower and a filler. 252 speed/252 atk/jolly

SolarSupporter and annoyer
[email protected]
Timid nature
EV-252 speed, 120 sp.defence, 112 defence, 26 HP
Encore
Helping hand
Leech seed
Sleep powder
annoyers FAIL in netbattle. the only thing it'll do is make your opponent want to bite your face off. use sunnyday, solarbeam, hp:ice, and some filler. or better yet, use exxegutor o.O

Cyclubstank and staller, but I need something better
[email protected] berry
Impish natue
EV-252HP, 104sp.defence, 96 defence and 58 attack
Protect
Shadow ball
Confuse ray/Will-o-wisp
Pain split
protect is fairly useless for dusclops. suicune is better if you wanted a replacement

OK! Go ahead! Laugh at it! I think there still should be changes around here
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Old November 26th, 2005 (12:27 PM).
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He said it was a 2vs2 team, and I suppose Protect is decent enough for 2v2
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Old November 26th, 2005 (11:49 PM).
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Quote:
Chameonspecial sweeper
[email protected]
Modest nature
EVs-252 on Sp.attack and speed each
Heat wave/flamethrower
Dragon claw
HP grass
Subsitute
sub, bd, hp:flying, earthquake @salac. 252 speed/252 atk adament.
But I prefer special sweeper.

Igneouspsy. sweeper
[email protected] berry
Adament nature
EVs-252 on attack, but I don't know what to put for the rest
Sword Dance/Bulk up(can't think of anything else, so......)
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break
no need for leichi with swords dance. overheat over brick break. full speed and jolly o.O

Speedashbaton passer
[email protected](what else can I put?)
Jolly nature
EVs-252 on attack and speed each
Arieal ace
Silver wind
Baton pass
Sword Dance
LEFTOVERS. and substitute over aerial ace.

Clashersweeper's backup
Elf-like skinny deoxys (speed)@Scope lens
Modest nature
EV-252 on Sp.attack and speed each
Calm Mind
Fire punch
Psychic
Thunderbolt
... no offense but deoxys-e sucks. use cb deoxys-fr. shadowball, extremespeed, superpower and a filler. 252 speed/252 atk/jolly
And I thought fr-deoxys is much worse, because of it's horrid defences

SolarSupporter and annoyer
[email protected]
Timid nature
EV-252 speed, 120 sp.defence, 112 defence, 26 HP
Encore
Helping hand
Leech seed
Sleep powder
annoyers FAIL in netbattle. the only thing it'll do is make your opponent want to bite your face off. use sunnyday, solarbeam, hp:ice, and some filler. or better yet, use exxegutor o.O
I'm asking you who to replace jumpluff with.

Cyclubstank and staller, but I need something better
[email protected] berry
Impish natue
EV-252HP, 104sp.defence, 96 defence and 58 attack
Protect
Shadow ball
Confuse ray/Will-o-wisp
Pain split
protect is fairly useless for dusclops. suicune is better if you wanted a replacement
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Old November 30th, 2005 (6:10 AM).
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Ubers... Ew? I hate ubers so i hate your team ;)
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Old November 30th, 2005 (6:16 AM).
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Well that was random.....
He's right about the ubers. Don't mix OUs, UUs, and ubers, as mentioned before.
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Old November 30th, 2005 (8:40 AM).
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I'll jump in on the rating for this team..

Quote:
Originally Posted by pikadon92
I didn't really know where did I go wrong for my netbattle, or maybe I'm playing more on my other games.

Chameonspecial sweeper
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Modest nature
EVs-252 on Sp.attack and speed each
Heat wave/flamethrower
Dragon claw
HP grass
Subsitute

Flameclaw isn't bad, but Charizard is nowhere near what you would call a good special sweeper. If you're looking for that, look at Alakazam. This would work better with either a mixed set or a Bellyzard set as suggested by others.

Igneouspsy. sweeper
[email protected] berry
Adament nature
EVs-252 on attack, but I don't know what to put for the rest
Sword Dance/Bulk up(can't think of anything else, so......)
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Brick Break

252 on Attack? You have Swords Dance, not really necessary. Moveset looks fine, maybe Overheat instead of Brick Break? (EQ and BB essentially do the same thing in terms of who they can SE strike, and you get STAB from the EQ)

Speedashbaton passer
[email protected](what else can I put?)
Jolly nature
EVs-252 on attack and speed each
Arieal ace
Silver wind
Baton pass
Sword Dance

Instead of Starf, put Leftovers, and use this set up: Baton Pass/Substitute/Swords Dance/Aerial Ace or Silver Wind. This will last you longer and actually may have a shot of getting you to +4 spd (That is all you really need to pass), as with your current set this is asking for anything to just come right in and take it down.

Clashersweeper's backup
Elf-like skinny deoxys (speed)@Scope lens
Modest nature
EV-252 on Sp.attack and speed each
Calm Mind
Fire punch
Psychic
Thunderbolt

No. You want a Psychic Calm Minder? Run Gardevoir if this is a 2v2 team, and you can try to Skill Swap stuff. =) Calm Mind/Psychic/Skill Swap/Recover, and put in something like Slaking next to it so that Slaking can be dealing out hits every single turn.

SolarSupporter and annoyer
[email protected]
Timid nature
EV-252 speed, 120 sp.defence, 112 defence, 26 HP
Encore
Helping hand
Leech seed
Sleep powder

Works like a charm in UU (and to an extent in OU), but it may have troubles in a 2v2 environment. If you want to keep it (and that is certainly a viable option) instead of Helping Hand, put Substitute. Helping Hand phails in NB.


Cyclubstank and staller, but I need something better
[email protected] berry
Impish natue
EV-252HP, 104sp.defence, 96 defence and 58 attack
Protect
Shadow ball
Confuse ray/Will-o-wisp
Pain split

Protect on Clops is kind of unneccessary, even in 2v2, as it's going to block Explosions and almost nothing can take it down in one hit anyway: Run Shadow Ball/Snatch (to steal CMs, DDs, etc.) or Rest/Will O' Wisp/Pain Split, and it will stall much better for you.
I'm no expert in 2v2, and don't pretend to be, but this team fails in both that environment and in 1v1. You have an extremely large BoltBeam problem, and you lack any sort of firepower if Zard goes down (it will) and/or Groudon goes down. When building a team, you have to work to a basic formula if you want it to be successful, and this...well, doesn't come anywhere close, i'm sorry to say. If you want some help, I'm around.
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