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Old November 3rd, 2005 (3:47 PM). Edited November 3rd, 2005 by Dusk_.
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Swellow (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Quick Attack
- Return

Used with Electrode for Facade.

Electrode @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Soundproof
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Endure
- Explosion
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic

Used with Swellow for extremely fast Toxic, otherwise Endure/Explosion. Not sure how well it works though.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide

Nothing much to say (couldn't remember if RS was standard though). Also don't know about EVs.

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Atk / 176 Def / 58 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Confuse Ray
- Pain Split
- Protect
- Shadow Ball

Explosion partner, 24 attack for Gengar.

Kingdra (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Surf

Dunno how useful this is considering he's the only one with Swift Swim and water attacks, but RD Surf should be useful.

Blaziken (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Earthquake
- Overheat
- Reversal
- Endure

Used with Gross or Trode. Also can stop Metagross (not sure what standard Gross EVs are, but Overheat should OHKO it without Blaze kicking in).
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Old November 3rd, 2005 (5:29 PM).
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abuse Guts with Poison Powder.
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Old November 3rd, 2005 (6:01 PM).
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hmmm... that brings a wishpassing thought to mind, Ham. But how well would that work in 2 v 2? As for Kingdra, it seems a bit questionable, but thats only because i personally find Kingdra overrated
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Old November 3rd, 2005 (8:16 PM). Edited November 3rd, 2005 by Dusk_.
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abuse Guts with Poison Powder.
You mean the same Poisonpowder that has a 75 accuracy and can't be used by anything faster than Jumpluff? No thanks.

EDIT: realized the hard way that Blaze had Sub, not Endure...
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Old November 4th, 2005 (7:30 AM).
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ftw? Blaze has endure. I've used Endure+Reversal on it before.
And yes, poisonpowder. Swellow will live longer. You can always leave something else as a starter, then Switch Swellow into the poisonpowder.
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Old November 4th, 2005 (8:03 AM).
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Swellow (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) Adamant(ATK+/SA-)
- Facade
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Quick Attack
- Return Wing Attack

Used with Electrode for Facade.

Electrode @ Liechi Berry
Trait: Soundproof
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Endure
- Explosion
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic

Used with Swellow for extremely fast Toxic, otherwise Endure/Explosion. Not sure how well it works though. Perfect idea. I usually use Swellow with hazebat but this works too.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide

Nothing much to say (couldn't remember if RS was standard though). Also don't know about EVs.Enter Weezing and gg. Needs Psychic to screw Weezing.

Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Atk / 176 Def / 58 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Confuse Ray
- Pain Split
- Protect
- Shadow Ball

Explosion partner, 24 attack for Gengar.I actually like WoW/C Ray/IB/Shadow Ball. Also, if using Impish, switch DEF EVs with SD EVs.

Kingdra (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
- Surf

Dunno how useful this is considering he's the only one with Swift Swim and water attacks, but RD Surf should be useful. Doesn't really need HP Grass, Dragon is better. Otherwise good.

Blaziken (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Earthquake
- Overheat
- Reversal
- Endure

Used with Gross or Trode. Also can stop Metagross (not sure what standard Gross EVs are, but Overheat should OHKO it without Blaze kicking in). I prefer Fire Blast or FT. And use Rock Slide instead of EQ.
Also ,Blaziken needs some SA EVs.
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Old November 4th, 2005 (1:06 PM).
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wing attack lol more like waste attack.
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Old November 4th, 2005 (4:31 PM).
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..........

Swellow: Wing atk, ftw? try Aerial Ace maybe?

Electrode: lol judging by some of your posts, I thought you might've suggested thundershock >.>

Metagross: I lol at suggesting Psychic. Just switch your ally to dusclops, then go Boom. CB Explosion from Metagross screws just about anything not resistant/immune to it.

Dusclops: Clops has no REAL reason to use Ice Beam, except for that lame CM set and a few other purposes. Needs more WoW instead of CRay. And juding by the fact that only Crunch is going to do some major damage, Impish with defense is fine IMO.

Kingdra: HP dragon = phailure. HP grass is standard for screwing other water types.

Blaziken: Just about the only thing i see a good suggestion from E4 on. Doesn't necessarily need more sp. atk, as its already stabed on decent sp. atk, plus after endure it will be Blaze'd as well. Or you can always go full physical with Reversal, Rock Slide, and EQ.
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Old November 4th, 2005 (7:39 PM).
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Hazebat sucks. it's all like HAW HAZE and then it gets its *** handed too it because most stat uppers have Rock Slide/Psychic/a nice powerful STAB move.
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Old November 5th, 2005 (11:21 AM).
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lol @ Articuno getting haze in XD
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Old November 5th, 2005 (11:28 AM).
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After a few battles, I've come to some nice conclusions:

Guts + Facade + Toxic + CB can easily take down half a team if the opponent's unprepared. Most people target Swellow over Electrode though.

Endsplosion can work wonders, but without the Liechi it's rather lackluster.

Confuse Ray + WoW really tick people off and Dusclops is rarely targetted (probably because he can't do too much in general).

Everyone else has Ludicolo...I have Kingdra.

Everyone packs Protect.
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Old November 5th, 2005 (1:06 PM).
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well, Dusclops is a threat, but most people know not to mess with it right away, lest they screw all their PPs only to get messed up by protect. It's defenses are also very annoying. But it is high priority on the "Must Take Down NAO" list, only it blinds you from that fact by introducing the fact that its hard to take down.
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