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Old November 12th, 2005 (7:26 PM).
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I've been thinking up a team to use in NB when I finally get back on, and this is the concept so far (I dont have access to a team builder, so EVs aren't available)

Snorlax @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A (0malax EVs)
Nature: Sassy (+SDef, -Spd)
-Body Slam
-Fire Blast
-Focus Punch
-Earthquake/Shadow Ball

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
-Surf
-Wish
-Baton Pass
-Haze/Ice Beam

Zapdos @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A
Nature: either Timid or Modest
-Thunderbolt
-Thunder Wave/Roar
-HP Grass
-Light Screen

Steelix @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A
Nature: either Sassy or Impish or Adamant
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Psych Up/Explosion
-Roar

Salamence @ Choice Band
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
-Brick Break
-HP (Flying)
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide

(no Fire Blast because I have other anti-Skarm measures already)

I need the 6th Pokemon and overall suggestions on this team. Thx.
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Old November 13th, 2005 (9:19 AM).
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I've been thinking up a team to use in NB when I finally get back on, and this is the concept so far (I dont have access to a team builder, so EVs aren't available)

Snorlax @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A (0malax EVs)
Nature: Careful
-Body Slam/return
-rest
-curse
-Earthquake/Shadow Ball

WTF is Omalax, don't use that :/, curse ax is better.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
-Surf
-Wish
-ice beam/acid armor.
-Haze/Ice Beam

ok thats better.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A
Nature: either Timid or Modest
-Thunderbolt
-Thunder Wave/Roar
-HP Grass
-Light Screen

Ok its getting better.

Steelix @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A
Nature: either Sassy or Impish or Adamant
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Psych Up/Explosion
-Roar

Use explosion, and impish.

Salamence @ Choice Band
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
-Brick Break
-HP (Flying)
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide

(no Fire Blast because I have other anti-Skarm measures already)

I need the 6th Pokemon and overall suggestions on this team. Thx.
OK 0malax is stupid.Changes in bold.
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Old November 13th, 2005 (9:52 AM).
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lol, jc, dont dis omalax if u've never seen it.
Anyways, Vappy has BP for wish passing. If u dont think BP is necessary, read the part on bluemuk32's guide for vappy to see why it works.
And i dont recommend Explosion on phsyical walls/sponges
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Old November 13th, 2005 (11:08 AM).
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Well, so far I haven't received any help for what my sixth pokemon should be..
And jc, 0malax works, it laughs at Skarmory, laughs at switch ins, paralyzes with body slam, and hurts things with either EQ or SB. With Curselax, random defensive walls come in and laugh at Snorlax,and when it needs to Rest, anything can come in and Roar/Haze it out. With an 0malax set Snorlax is able to effectively strike everything in some way as well as provide the special walling that this team needs.

Short and simple synopsis on WishPassing on Vappy:

When you Wish, normally you have to switch in to the Pokemon needing the switch the next turn, which means that unless you time it right, they are going to be the recipient of whatever the opponent's next attack is, and may die, making your Wish useless. With Vaporeon being so slow and having Baton Pass, however, you are able to Wish on Turn one, survive an attack on the next turn, and Baton Pass to the Pokemon needing the Wish. In this way, you guarantee that the Pokemon needing the Wish gets it without risking injury to itself. Acid Armor is only useful on pure Baton Passing teams on Vappy, in OU metagame it really doesn't do much.
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Old November 13th, 2005 (11:28 AM).
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OK sorry for being a n00b, I feel stupid now >.<, and your last pokemon could be gar, or ddtar, just some ideas.
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Old November 13th, 2005 (11:32 AM).
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Yeah, I was thinking of both of those..McGar, Boahtar, or DDTar are pretty much my final three options. Umby had a weird suggestion in that a Charizard may work well on this team..I don't know, worth a shot, eh?
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Old November 13th, 2005 (11:40 AM).
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I don't know, you can try zard out, and if it doesn't work, try the other ones.
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TTar on this team wouldn't be a really great idea imo. That Snorlax, Zapdos and Vaporeon will need their leftovers recovery, or they won't work that well.

Gengar could work in that last slot I guess, but you seem to have a DDtar weak, and your team lacks a spinner, so a Claydol or a Donphan or something in that 6th slot could solve those problems.

Other than that, your team is fine.
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Old November 13th, 2005 (12:16 PM).
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Hmm..Didn't even think about Donphan. I was almost not going to have a spinner on this team, but Donphan would work well. Thanks.
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Old November 14th, 2005 (8:13 AM).
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I'm quite sure Donphan doesn't go on this team. Maybe find memories and see if he can teach you to battle without a rapid spinner.
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Old November 15th, 2005 (6:35 PM).
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I've been thinking up a team to use in NB when I finally get back on, and this is the concept so far (I dont have access to a team builder, so EVs aren't available)

Snorlax @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A (0malax EVs)
Nature: Sassy (+SDef, -Spd)
-Body Slam
-Fire Blast
-Focus Punch
-Earthquake/Shadow Ball

It's great seeing this in use. Hardly anyone knows the set but it kills so much stuff. EQ>SB imo, as FB breaks Gengar's Subs anyway.

Btw,
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Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 160 HP / 136 Atk / 76 SAtk / 136 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
Although I would add another 60 EVs to Spd as then it outspeeds para'ed base 130s.


Vaporeon @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
-Surf
-Wish
-Baton Pass
-Haze/Ice Beam

If you're using Wish+BP imo you want a -Spd nature.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A
Nature: either Timid or Modest
-Thunderbolt
-Thunder Wave/Roar
-HP Grass
-Light Screen

Steelix @ Leftovers
EVs: N/A
Nature: either Sassy or Impish or Adamant
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Psych Up/Explosion
-Roar

Impish. You've got Wish so no Explosion.

Salamence @ Choice Band
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
-Brick Break
-HP (Flying)
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide

(no Fire Blast because I have other anti-Skarm measures already)
does it really need max Spd? how often are you gonna leave this in on another Mence? And there aren't any other base 100s you'd be staying in on anyway.

I need the 6th Pokemon and overall suggestions on this team. Thx.
lol I can replace pokes better than add them.

Anyway, since you seem to have a bit of a BoltBeam weak (Y HALO THAR DRAGONITE), Donphan would work horrible, as would most good spinners. Perhaps Dusclops?
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Old November 15th, 2005 (7:22 PM).
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Yeah, on another forum we recognized the BoltBeam weak, so I went for the RSer that is like UU everywhere: Armaldo. I'm planning on using him in a utility set form (I've been away from NB far too long to try to play without a Rapid Spinner, at least for a while =/)

Armaldo @ Leftovers
EVs:
Nature: Not Sure...Either Adamant, Impish, or Sassy?
-Rock Blast/Rock Slide
-HP Bug
-Rapid Spin
-Knock Off/Swords Dance

Kind of useful, as he does have a small list of weaks, and gets rid of at least one of my Ice weaknesses, and Knock Off is cool for making T-Tars work against a team, among other things ^^

I was thinking the same thing about the Vappy, so I will change that to Relaxed.

As cool as 0malax is, I can't use it on this team: I need someone to absorb status infliction and be able to actually rest it off without dying in 2 hits. Instead, I'm going for S-Talker Lax, with Shadow Ball over EQ to take care of potential Gar concerns.

I'm not quite sure anymore about Salamence being my CBer..Would Hera or Medi be better on this team? Just an itch...=/
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Old November 16th, 2005 (8:23 AM).
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like I said, find Bon4r and have him teach you how to play without spinning.
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About Armaldo...

RS+KO is an illegal combination of egg moves.

Hera and Medi are both cool pokes (k for some reason that reminds me of that idiot ggfan), although Hera might be better for this team, as you said you needed something to absorb stauses.
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Old November 16th, 2005 (7:05 PM).
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Hey, CBHera would allow me to absorb status, which would then allow me to make Snorlax 0ma again, which could mean I could put another Rapid Spinner in place of Armaldo...*grins* Thx. And I thought I remembered KO and RS being illegal together...*sigh* me needs my NB back. =/
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