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Old November 23rd, 2005 (5:16 PM).
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No one likes my EV spreads or my orginialilty, oh well. Let the team rapage begin.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Sleep Talk

Ownage.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Recover

I've heard Psychic over LS so many times, but this helps me CM, and then stall, so then I can pass.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 80 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Pokemon.

Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Metal Sound/T-wave
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Your just mad because Metal Sound is fun, and it's cooler than you.

Snorlax (Just changed to female) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 160 HP / 96 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Umm yeah, whatever. I like SB over EQ.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 100 Def / 8 Spd / 24 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf

Blah, blah, blah, more EVs in this and less in that, Roar over I-Beam, guess what I don't have a Spiker or another I-beam user, so STFU losers, no really, lol jk.

Rate, and fix.
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Old November 23rd, 2005 (5:23 PM).
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metal sound fails, mcgar fails, roar fails sometimes, celebi can only bpass, and that is gay, and I fail.
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Old November 23rd, 2005 (5:28 PM).
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metal sound fails, mcgar fails, roar fails sometimes, celebi can only bpass, and that is gay, and I fail.
Uhh, Metal Sound can let you kill Bliss and Lax, lol. Okay, but McGar can be really good, you just have to use it right. Celebi usually BPs or uses Psychic on crap. I already know you ph4il.:\
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Old November 23rd, 2005 (5:30 PM).
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I don't like metal sound maggy >.>, and you can try boah or something else over mcgar.
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Old November 23rd, 2005 (5:34 PM).
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I don't like metal sound maggy >.>, and you can try boah or something else over mcgar.
I don't like Boah, it's like a free kill, lol. Plus McGar is good, you just don't know how to use him.:\
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Old November 23rd, 2005 (5:34 PM).
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No one likes my EV spreads or my orginialilty, oh well. Let the team rapage begin.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Sleep Talk

Earthquake Heracross sucks, use Focus Punch or Brick Break.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Recover

No need for special defense, put that into Special Attack.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 80 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

good.

Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Metal Sound/T-wave
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

This only needs 222 speed. Put the rest in Defense.

Snorlax (Just changed to female) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 160 HP / 96 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Snorlax needs a bit in everything except Special Attack. Not so much Defense, you'll need special defense or else you won't be able to take suicune abuse.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 100 Def / 8 Spd / 24 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf

Blah, blah, blah, more EVs in this and less in that, Roar over I-Beam, guess what I don't have a Spiker or another I-beam user, so STFU losers, no really, lol jk.

This is fine.

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Old November 23rd, 2005 (5:39 PM).
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I don't like Boah, it's like a free kill, lol. Plus McGar is good, you just don't know how to use him.:\
well 404 hp absorbs a stoss from blissey, then you fp for a kill, T-bolt>skarm.
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Old November 23rd, 2005 (6:01 PM).
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Uhh Shadow T-Tar what will I do with Sp.atk on Celebi?

Eathquake Hera kills Bliss and Lax.

I like 252 Speed on Maggy.

My Lax doesn't have to beat Cune.
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Eathquake Hera kills Bliss and Lax.
Focus Punch does better since Hera gets STAB from it, even Brick Break does more
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Old November 24th, 2005 (8:08 AM). Edited November 24th, 2005 by Mullet.
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Focus Punch does better since Hera gets STAB from it, even Brick Break does more
Yes that is true, but I can't predict, and like to sweep a lot of Poke with this, so I'm not going to use FP.

Jc I just noticed you said Boah absorbs S-Tosses from Bliss. That is true, but what are you smokin' only losers leave a Bliss in against Boah.
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Old November 24th, 2005 (9:46 AM).
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No one likes my EV spreads or my orginialilty, oh well. Let the team rapage begin.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Sleep Talk

don't lead with this, cause mence and the many zapdos leads will force you to switch early and I know how against focus punch you are, but, its a GOOD move


Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Recover

On my current team I'm running HP: electric instead of Leech Seed or Psychic

USE:
EVs: 240 HP / 16 Def / 240 Spd / 12 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)


Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 80 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

McGar pwns with CMs.......

Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Metal Sound/T-wave
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I've always been a fan of this set, 223 speed pls and rest in HP and Def

Snorlax (Just changed to female) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 160 HP / 96 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

I'd use 330 SpDef and alot more attack, cause shadowball needs to do decent damage to jirachi and meta

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 100 Def / 8 Spd / 24 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf

350 defense, take the evs from Spdef

Lead with this or gengar

You don't need magneton on this team, you needs a special attacker that makes 101 subs and can take lax shadow balls, I suggest jirachi. So put that over maggy.

jirachi+gengar pwns most teams, since t-wave bliss can't beat McGar and Ice beam bliss can't beat wish jirachi. If they are carrying snorlax eq lax can't beat gar and shadowball lax can't beat jirachi :D

besides if you pass 2 calm minds to gengar blissey can't break its sub with ice beam :P
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You don't need magneton on this team, you needs a special attacker that makes 101 subs and can take lax shadow balls, I suggest jirachi. So put that over maggy.

jirachi+gengar pwns most teams, since t-wave bliss can't beat McGar and Ice beam bliss can't beat wish jirachi. If they are carrying snorlax eq lax can't beat gar and shadowball lax can't beat jirachi :D

besides if you pass 2 calm minds to gengar blissey can't break its sub with ice beam :P
It's not that I hate FP, it's just that I can't predict well, lol, and with CB on Hera it makes me cry, cause I'm going to get killed like that.

I'm using this for Wish Jirachi:


Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 148 Def / 116 Spd / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Wish

Is that good? I mean it is the set you gave me Husk.
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yea, I've been finding fire punch useful over thunderbolt

I believe I gave you the evs as well ;-)

I've recently been using:

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 148 Def / 24 Spd / 96 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Wish


the extra special attack is alot of fun, try both out and see what you like
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Old November 24th, 2005 (11:26 AM).
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Well when I said set I ment EVs and everything, lol. I might try that.:D


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yea, I've been finding fire punch useful over thunderbolt

I believe I gave you the evs as well ;-)

I've recently been using:

Jirachi @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 240 HP / 148 Def / 24 Spd / 96 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Wish


the extra special attack is alot of fun, try both out and see what you like
When I said srt I ment everything, lol. I might just try that one.:D
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yes, metal sound is useful. I'd say stalkercune since you have celejump.

Maggie spread = 68 HP/188 Spd/252 satk
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yes, metal sound is useful. I'd say stalkercune since you have celejump.

Maggie spread = 68 HP/188 Spd/252 satk
I fixed the team to Husk's changes.

I thought Celejump has Psychic. I like CM to stay on Cune because Celebi can die.
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I fixed the team to Husk's changes.

I thought Celejump has Psychic. I like CM to stay on Cune because Celebi can die.
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imho, you really shouldn't have more than one Pokemon getting set up on a team, because too much set up leads to failure more often than success. I agree with Umby, StalkerCune is always a neat option, as it provides Pressure and such and with those great defenses it will be sticking around a while while still doing damage.
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imho, you really shouldn't have more than one Pokemon getting set up on a team, because too much set up leads to failure more often than success. I agree with Umby, StalkerCune is always a neat option, as it provides Pressure and such and with those great defenses it will be sticking around a while while still doing damage.
The Pokes I have that set up stay around for a while because of there defence power. Suicune sweeps teams, so does Lax, and Celebi can stall with CMs or pass them. They work fine.:\
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Old November 25th, 2005 (8:27 AM). Edited November 25th, 2005 by Squarewalker.
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No one likes my EV spreads or my orginialilty, oh well. Let the team rapage begin.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Sleep Talk

Ownage.
Brick Brake>EQ, since a STAB'd Megahorn only has 20 less power than a super effective EQ, and BB covers more than EQ does. Also, I don't suggest leading with this. Lead with Gengar.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Recover

I've heard Psychic over LS so many times, but this helps me CM, and then stall, so then I can pass.
It needs at least 148 Spd EVs with Timid nature, to outspeed Heracross/Zapdos/Salamence, and go with either Psychic over LS to OHKO Cross after 1 CM, or HP Electric for Skarm (then again, you have Magneton, but meh) and Suicune.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 80 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Pokemon.
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Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Metal Sound/T-wave
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Your just mad because Metal Sound is fun, and it's cooler than you.
Only needs 168 Spd EVs.

Snorlax (Just changed to female) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 160 HP / 96 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Umm yeah, whatever. I like SB over EQ.
EQ Lax is better though, imo. =/

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 100 Def / 8 Spd / 24 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf

Blah, blah, blah, more EVs in this and less in that, Roar over I-Beam, guess what I don't have a Spiker or another I-beam user, so STFU losers, no really, lol jk.
ok, but I like 240 HP / 212 Def / 24 Spd / rest in SAtk on this.
Rate, and fix. :\
No p-hazer means that random things can setup on this team, so maybe consider Roar>IB on Suicune.
Other than that, looks ok.
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Old November 25th, 2005 (8:36 AM).
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No p-hazer means that random things can setup on this team, so maybe consider Roar>IB on Suicune.
Other than that, looks ok.
I said I already fixed and changed this team. Water Absorbs laugh at a Suicune with 6 CM's without I-Beam, you can Roar them away but you will have to kill it eventually.:\
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No one likes my EV spreads or my orginialilty, oh well. Let the team rapage begin.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Sleep Talk

Ownage.

Definitely Brick Break over EQ.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 116 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Recover

I've heard Psychic over LS so many times, but this helps me CM, and then stall, so then I can pass.

Psychic/Giga Drain is needed to kill hazers(Giga Drain for Hazevap or Psychic for Weezing/hazebat)

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 80 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Pokemon.Needs more SA but good otherwise.

Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Metal Sound/T-wave
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
Why HP Fire?
Your just mad because Metal Sound is fun, and it's cooler than you.

Snorlax (Just changed to female) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 160 HP / 96 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball
Double-Edge>Return if you have Rest. Shadow Ball>EQ so you chose right.
Umm yeah, whatever. I like SB over EQ.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 100 Def / 8 Spd / 24 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf
Definitely better than roar cune because this kills Mence. Though I like 200 HP/100 DEF/48 SPD/52 SA/110 SD
Blah, blah, blah, more EVs in this and less in that, Roar over I-Beam, guess what I don't have a Spiker or another I-beam user, so STFU losers, no really, lol jk.

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Plz no "lol hazevap" or "lol giga drain celebi" comments. This Celebi would get owned by my Vap. U need SA and Giga Drain to kill it.
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Plz no "lol hazevap" or "lol giga drain celebi" comments. This Celebi would get owned by my Vap. U need SA and Giga Drain to kill it.
You don't remember our battle, lol. My Celebi killed your "hazevap". No Double Edge. Hidden Power [Fire] kills other Maggies, Skram, and Gross.

I've had worse teams than this beat you, so lol. I wanted good advice. Also good job on reaping what everyone else said for Hera.
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lol. Gengar already kills mence. Suicune is better as a phazer to erase any previous CMs, or even SDs for that matter. Crobat rapes Celebi with Sludge Bomb anyway.


Did also mention there's no need to fear HAzebat because it phails?
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Old November 25th, 2005 (8:30 PM). Edited November 29th, 2005 by Mullet.
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Originally Posted by UmbreonShadow
lol. Gengar already kills mence. Suicune is better as a phazer to erase any previous CMs, or even SDs for that matter. Crobat rapes Celebi with Sludge Bomb anyway.


Did also mention there's no need to fear HAzebat because it phails?
You know Gengar can die, lol. Then I lose.:P
 

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