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Snorlax can be a SubPuncher by itself:

Snorlax @Leftovers
Substitute
Focus Punch
Body Slam/Return
Shadow Ball

Or, like any physical attacker, it can be a CBer:

Snorlax @Choice Band
Return
Shadow Ball
Focus Punch
Earthquake

For the BF, Flygon + Snorlax + Skarmory work nicely. Start off with Flygon, Snorlax provides protection against Water and Ice attacks, and Skarmory plays the role of physical wall (plus there are lots of Pokemon who use Toxic).
Be sure to adjust your team when it’s time to challenge a Frontier Brain. For instance, Tucker uses Swampert, Charizard, and Salamence so you’ll want to use Milotic during that round.
For info on all the Frontier Brains, consult wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_Brain

Kata:

For a Drought team:
Groudon
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Swords Dance
-Hidden Power [Bug]/Overheat

Exeggutor
-Solarbeam
-Sleep Powder
-Hidden Power [Fire]
-Psychic/Explosion

Victreebel
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Solar Beam

Moltres
- Agility/Morning Sun
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute/Will-o-wisp

Houndoom
- Beat Up
- Flamethrower
- Pursuit/Crunch
- Solar Beam

Blissey:
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Flamethrower

May also include

Vileplume
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Sleep Powder
- Solar Beam
- Synthesis

Tangela
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Solar Beam
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Clefable
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Wish
- Encore/Counter/Thunder Wave

For a Drizzle team:
Kyogre
- Ice Beam/Substitute
- Calm Mind/Substitute
- Surf
- Thunder

Kingdra
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Hydro Pump/Surf
- Toxic

Ludicolo
- Ice Beam
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Hydro Pump/Surf

Omastar
- Hydro Pump/Surf
- Ice Beam
- Spikes
- Substitute

Blissey
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder

Zapdos
- Thunder
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Hidden Power [Grass] / Hidden Power [Ice]

May also include:

Kabutops @Liechi Berry
- Swords Dance
- Substitute
- Rock Slide
- Flail

Starmie
-Surf
-Thunder
-Recover
-Rapid Spin/Ice Beam

Vaporeon
- Baton Pass
- Surf
- Substitute
- Wish

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All of those moves are either Level-Up, TMs, or Move tutors so they're all obtainable without breeding.

You can buy many Leftovers in the Battle Frontier, and you can get some free ones in other places in-game.

Grumpig @Leftovers
- Substitute
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Calm Mind

Blaziken @Leftovers
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide
- Sky Uppercut
- Swords Dance

Skarmory @Chesto Berry
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes
- Steel Wing

Dodrio @Choice Band
-Drill Peck
-Return
-Quick Attack
-Steel Wing

Salamence @Lum Berry
- Aerial Ace
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast

Ludicolo @Leftovers
- Surf
- Rain Dance
- Giga Drain
- Ice Beam


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It's great, thanks. :) Thanks alot.

BTW, which one would be better ingame, Rhydon or Aggron? And what move set would suit them both?
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I'd rather have Rhydon personally. Both Rhydon and Aggron have double weaknesses (Rhydon to Water and Grass, Aggron to Fighting and Ground), so they are a little difficult to use.

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Rock Blast/Rock Slide
Earthquake

I like Rock Blast for the sub-breaking, but whatever takes your fancy. You want Rhydon to go last to set up Substitute. If Rhydon has 21 or higher IV in HP, he can pull off 404 HP, which means moves like Seismic Toss take two turns to break Substitute.

I dunno why, but I always think Choice Band when it comes to Aggron:

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Rock Slide
Earthquake
Brick Break
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Indeed they have double weaknesses, but Rhydon has special weaknesses while Aggron has physical ones. That means that while Rhydon's weaknesses could easily kill him, Aggron has the huge defense to at least minimalize the damage taken, so I'd rather have him. And CB because he needs it :P. Thanks for the moves.
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Indeed they have double weaknesses, but Rhydon has special weaknesses while Aggron has physical ones. That means that while Rhydon's weaknesses could easily kill him, Aggron has the huge defense to at least minimalize the damage taken, so I'd rather have him. And CB because he needs it :P. Thanks for the moves.
Rhydon is more of a beast IMO, as any kind of special sweeper WILL take a hard hit on the switch, and Rhydon has the defenses to take physical hits like an Earthquake. Aggron, however, is still weak to water, just like Rhydon, but instead of surviving EQs and Brick Breaks, it gets OHKOed by them. Rhydon also has Swords Dance :P
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Thanks a ton aragornbird. :-)
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Rhydon is more of a beast IMO, as any kind of special sweeper WILL take a hard hit on the switch, and Rhydon has the defenses to take physical hits like an Earthquake. Aggron, however, is still weak to water, just like Rhydon, but instead of surviving EQs and Brick Breaks, it gets OHKOed by them. Rhydon also has Swords Dance :P
yup, can't beat that one...:) but I already started leveling up Aron...oh well, I wanted some kind of new poke in my team anyway, and the dude just looks so kewl :P
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Hi!! I would like to request a team... you see, I'm a NetBattle Beginner, and I don't know what team would be most fitting...
I want a team with balance of types, I don't necesarily need legendaries, just a powerful and balanced team that I can handle ^^
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Hi!! I would like to request a team... you see, I'm a NetBattle Beginner, and I don't know what team would be most fitting...
I want a team with balance of types, I don't necesarily need legendaries, just a powerful and balanced team that I can handle ^^

Hmm... well since you're new to NB, I'll give you a team that's not necessarily gonna do what teams like Me, Mullet's and Husk's do, but its enough to get a few wins and help you get started. In the mean time, start reading on Mullet's Guide to OU, and Husk's prediction guide.



Flygon (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 28 HP / 252 Atk / 48 Def / 140 Spd / 40 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Quick Attack / Fire Blast
- Rock Slide

I went for a CB Set with a ScreechFlygon EV feel. Probably needs a bit more HP, but meh. Basically, with Jolly, you'll have enough speed as when you use 252 Spd EVs with Adamant. the defense and SDef EVs are for cutting down on damage you receive from random surfs and HP Grass, or those **** Critical Hitting Rock Slides >_>. Hidden Power Bug is for Celebi, IF you think you can predict it. Otherwise just use Fire Blast over it.

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 212 Atk / 176 Spd / 124 SAtk
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Focus Punch
- Ice Punch
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

Skarmbliss counter. Basically, come in, use Sub, and thunderbolt Skarmory, or Focus Punch Blissey.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Atk / 40 Def / 140 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam / Return
- Curse
- Earthquake / Shadow Ball
- Rest

I prefer Thick Fat over Immunity, just to let ya know. Body Slam gives paralysis, while Return does a load of damage, so that's your pick. Earthquake is for Metagross and Tyranitar who like to ruin the fun, while Shadow Ball is for Gengar and Dusclops after you rest from the Will-O-Wisps. This is here to take most of your special attacks btw :)

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 212 Def / 44 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Just switch this in on a Weezing or Dusclops's first move, and take it from there. If you see anything else trying to use Will-O-Wisp, switch it in here as well.

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 48 Atk / 208 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Counter
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

This your only real counter against Heracross and Tauntridos, since Skarmory and Zapdos aren't here, so use it wisely. I suggest that you use Earthquake first as soon as you switch it in. This is your physical-attack-taker.

Articuno @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 56 SAtk / 40 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Reflect
- Rest
- Roar

I honestly couldn't think of anything else, as this team needed a phazer =/.
Works well with forretress IMO.
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hey i need help, i have a blaziken level 50 with blaze kick,fireblast,brickbreak,and slash. i also have a level 51 manectric with thunder,thunderbolt,shockwave,and raindance. and i have a latios level 50 with dragnbreath, psycic, fly, and and dragon dance. i need three more pokemon what should they be?
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r u gay... dude is over get over it jesus ****in christ you should have blastoise jizz on ur face you sick pevert pokeman loving bastard

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hey i need help, i have a blaziken level 50 with blaze kick,fireblast,brickbreak,and slash. i also have a level 51 manectric with thunder,thunderbolt,shockwave,and raindance. and i have a latios level 50 with dragnbreath, psycic, fly, and and dragon dance. i need three more pokemon what should they be?
Blaziken
- Rock Slide
- Sky Uppercut / Brick Break
- Swords Dance
- Flamethrower / Fire Blast

Manectric
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave
- Quick Attack / Hidden Power [Grass/Ice/Water]

Latios
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Dragon Claw / Ice Beam / Thunderbolt / Psychic
- Dragon Claw / Ice Beam / Thunderbolt / Psychic

You could definitely use something like snorlax to take some special hits as well as to add a physical attacker to your arsenal. A Flying type would benefit you to take the Earthquakes and Bug type attacks that your first three are weak to. Your last slot can be a physical wall, if you like, or a bulky water type like Milotic or Suicune.
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Can u guys give me some moves ingame for venusaur, pidgeot, magneton, mr. mime, magmar and one extra water, rock, ground or fighting (which one I'm missing and i could use better) or some other type (a couple of options, if you will). This is for Leaf Green, and again, pls, no breeding moves and only stuff that I could learn without trading. Ah, btw, and if you find something better in pidgeot's place, pls, don't hesitate to add it, I just hate that bird, but it's kind of tough...but not another flying type. The other guys I don't want to change, I kinda want this team to be more UU (except venusaur, which I have no ideea if it's UU)
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Can u guys give me some moves ingame for venusaur, pidgeot, magneton, mr. mime, magmar and one extra water, rock, ground or fighting (which one I'm missing and i could use better) or some other type (a couple of options, if you will). This is for Leaf Green, and again, pls, no breeding moves and only stuff that I could learn without trading. Ah, btw, and if you find something better in pidgeot's place, pls, don't hesitate to add it, I just hate that bird, but it's kind of tough...but not another flying type. The other guys I don't want to change, I kinda want this team to be more UU (except venusaur, which I have no ideea if it's UU)
Venusaur is OU.

Venusaur @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
- Leech Seed
- Razor Leaf / Giga Drain / Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis / Sludge Bomb

Pidgeot @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
- Return / Facade
- Aerial Ace
- Feather Dance / Quick Attack
- Steel Wing / Quick Attack

As for a better bird, I'd use Dodrio, since this is LeafGreen

Dodrio @ Choice Band / Leftovers
Trait: Early Bird
- Drill Peck
- Return / Facade / Body Slam / Double-Edge
- Steel Wing
- Quick Attack

Basically the same thing only with more punch. I'm not sure if there's a Body Slam tutor in FRLG though.

Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull / Sturdy
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave / Metal Sound / Reflect / Toxic
- Thunder Wave / Metal Sound / Reflect / Toxic

I guess you can try Thunder Wave and Supersonic for parafusion, but that's pretty lame for a Magneton IMO.

Magmar @ Leftovers
Trait: Flame Body
- Flamethrower / Fire Blast
- Substitute
- Sunny Day
- Confuse Ray / Brick Break

That is sadly and probably the best you're gonna get out of Magmar without breeding for Cross Chop or trading for Thunderpunch.

Mr. Mime @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
- Psychic
- Calm Mind / Light Screen
- Reflect / Baton Pass / Substitute / Encore / Thunderbolt / Barrier
- Reflect / Baton Pass / Substitute / Encore / Thunderbolt / Barrier

This thing learns too many moves upon leveling up. Encore works best alongside Substitute

For your sixth slow, a ground type would definitely be useful. Maybe Rhydon would work if you want to try it:

Rhydon @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Rock Blast / Rock Slide
- Earthquake

or

Rhydon @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge / Focus Punch / Brick Break

BB is your in-game alternative to Focus Punch.
If you're looking for the UU version, just replace Rhydon with Golem and use the same sets, only Explosion over Megahorn.
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Heracross

i have acces to colosseum and firered if need be. WIlling to restart for moves.
I think you skipped me...
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Don’t you mean Sharpedo, since Carvahna is unevolved?

Anyways, start off with Ninjask and use it to pass speed and Attack to the other team members. Hera and Gon would normally have Choice Band, but the inclusion of Ninjask makes things interesting.

Ninjask (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 96 HP / 252 Atk / 160 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Aerial Ace/Silver Wind
- Baton Pass

Blaziken (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 80 HP / 252 Atk / 176 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Fire Blast
- Sky Uppercut
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

Heracross (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Megahorn
- Brick Break
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance/Focus Punch

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Atk / 220 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Roar
- Rest
- Spikes

Flygon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Quick Attack
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide

Sharpedo (M) @ Leftovers/Lum Berry
Trait: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 176 Spd / 80 SAtk
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Hydro Pump
- Earthquake
- Return
- Crunch

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Venusaur is OU.

Venusaur @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
- Leech Seed
- Razor Leaf / Giga Drain / Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis / Sludge Bomb

Pidgeot @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
- Return / Facade
- Aerial Ace
- Feather Dance / Quick Attack
- Steel Wing / Quick Attack

As for a better bird, I'd use Dodrio, since this is LeafGreen

Dodrio @ Choice Band / Leftovers
Trait: Early Bird
- Drill Peck
- Return / Facade / Body Slam / Double-Edge
- Steel Wing
- Quick Attack

Basically the same thing only with more punch. I'm not sure if there's a Body Slam tutor in FRLG though.

Magneton @ Leftovers
Trait: Magnet Pull / Sturdy
- Thunderbolt
- Substitute
- Thunder Wave / Metal Sound / Reflect / Toxic
- Thunder Wave / Metal Sound / Reflect / Toxic

I guess you can try Thunder Wave and Supersonic for parafusion, but that's pretty lame for a Magneton IMO.

Magmar @ Leftovers
Trait: Flame Body
- Flamethrower / Fire Blast
- Substitute
- Sunny Day
- Confuse Ray / Brick Break

That is sadly and probably the best you're gonna get out of Magmar without breeding for Cross Chop or trading for Thunderpunch.

Mr. Mime @ Leftovers
Trait: Own Tempo
- Psychic
- Calm Mind / Light Screen
- Reflect / Baton Pass / Substitute / Encore / Thunderbolt / Barrier
- Reflect / Baton Pass / Substitute / Encore / Thunderbolt / Barrier

This thing learns too many moves upon leveling up. Encore works best alongside Substitute

For your sixth slow, a ground type would definitely be useful. Maybe Rhydon would work if you want to try it:

Rhydon @ Leftovers
Trait: Rock Head
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Rock Blast / Rock Slide
- Earthquake

or

Rhydon @ Choice Band
Trait: Rock Head
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Double-Edge / Focus Punch / Brick Break

BB is your in-game alternative to Focus Punch.
If you're looking for the UU version, just replace Rhydon with Golem and use the same sets, only Explosion over Megahorn.

Yup, kewl, thanks. I would use Golem, but sadly I can't trade. => I can't get the thunderpunch either. But it doesn't matter, it's all ingame, so if anything comes at Magmar and I will need electric attacks, I will just switch to Magneton. If by a miracle I get to catch TTar, is it worth it to use him if I don't breed for DD?
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Yup, kewl, thanks. I would use Golem, but sadly I can't trade. => I can't get the thunderpunch either. But it doesn't matter, it's all ingame, so if anything comes at Magmar and I will need electric attacks, I will just switch to Magneton. If by a miracle I get to catch TTar, is it worth it to use him if I don't breed for DD?
If I Recall Correctly, Geodude is in both versions O_o.

It's still cool to use TTar without DD:

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Crunch / Ice Beam / Rock Slide
- Thunderbolt / Flamethrower / Earthquake

Don't mix the special attacks in the last two slots with the physical ones. Crunch and Thunderbolt works the most efficient on the special side IMO.

Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Trait: Sand Stream
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Focus Punch / Brick Break / Aerial Ace
- Body Slam

OMG <3. If you somehow manage Hidden Power Bug or Ghost, I'd use that over Body Slam.

OMG <3
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Heres a challenge for you dream team building guys, make the ultimate team that could beat any other team
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If I Recall Correctly, Geodude is in both versions O_o.
Indeed he is, but Graveler evolves only through trade

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It's still cool to use TTar without DD:

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Crunch / Ice Beam / Rock Slide
- Thunderbolt / Flamethrower / Earthquake

Don't mix the special attacks in the last two slots with the physical ones. Crunch and Thunderbolt works the most efficient on the special side IMO.

Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Trait: Sand Stream
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Focus Punch / Brick Break / Aerial Ace
- Body Slam

OMG <3. If you somehow manage Hidden Power Bug or Ghost, I'd use that over Body Slam.

OMG <3
I didn't even know that TTar had enough Sp Att to use anything besides Crunch (for STAB) on the special side, interesting. But I prefer the more classic one, probably the second.
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lol, I realized that about Graveler after I signed off last night.

And yes TTar's SPecial Attack Stat is good enough to use Special Attacks.
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uu team....has 2 include piggy since its my fav uu :]

i have alot of uu but just getting bored of them
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Heres a challenge for you dream team building guys, make the ultimate team that could beat any other team

impossible, there is no ultimate team. Even ubers can be beaten when played against the right way
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