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Old December 24th, 2006 (8:14 PM).
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hi i need a team with
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Ho-oh with all EVs in SP.AT recover, flamethrower and fly
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a pokemon with bellydrum and earthquake
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Old December 25th, 2006 (3:56 AM).
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:P Okay, cool. I have no idea about what would be good for Pokemon so I'm just gonna list em. Dragonair, Misdreavus, Mudkip, Shedinja, Milotic, and Duskull. Thanks for any help ^^. And Merry Christmas.
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Old December 26th, 2006 (4:37 AM).
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:P Okay, cool. I have no idea about what would be good for Pokemon so I'm just gonna list em. Dragonair, Misdreavus, Mudkip, Shedinja, Milotic, and Duskull. Thanks for any help ^^. And Merry Christmas.
I would guess that final evolutions are better, so I will give you those. Also it depends on if you want to use all your TM's. I will assume you are going to, and have the infinte amount.

Dragonite
~Earthquake [TM]
~Focus Punch [TM]
~Ice Beam [TM]
~Thunderbolt [TM]
A standard Dragonite set that can fit In-Game. Make sure you get the right Nature though, or it might not work.

Misdreavus
~Mean Look [Level]
~Perish Song [Level]
~Protect [TM]
~Thunderbolt [TM]

An In-Game version of PerishTrapping, and it should work pretty much as well.

Swampert
~Earthquake [Level]
~Hydro Pump [Level]
~Ice Beam [TM]
~Protect [Level]

MixPert is also very easy to get In-Game.

Shedinja
~Aerial Ace [TM]
~Shadow Ball [Level]
~Swords Dance [Level]
~Return [TM]

I would personally never use Shedinja In-Game, but this is what you can get out of it without breeding.

Milotic
~Ice Beam [TM]
~Surf [HM]
~Toxic [TM]
~Recover [Level]

A Standard Milotic set in In-Game. Quite easy to get.

Dusclops
~Will-O-Wisp [Level]
~Calm Mind [TM]
~Ice Beam [TM]
~Psychic [TM]

Wierd Dusclops, but it should work In-Game.
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Old December 26th, 2006 (10:35 PM).
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Even in-game, it takes too many CMs to KO random things with clops. Just Run Shadow Ball and Seismic Toss.

Focus Punch doesn't really work in-game without sub or the opposing pokemon sleeping.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (1:00 AM).
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Heyas. This seems the place to ask if I've picked out a good EV training set here for my team...

I'm pretty darn sure I did my math right, but I'm simply curious what the pros have to say:

Skarmory (Impish)
252 HP, 64 Atk, 192 Def (perhaps take a few for Sp Def)

Claydol (Relaxed)
236 HP, 136 Atk, 108 Def, 30 Sp Def

Cradily (Modest)
222 HP, 88 Def, 200 Sp Def

Armaldo (Adamant)
116 HP, 132 Atk, 176 Def, 86 Sp Def

Aggron (Jolly)
252 Atk, 252 Def, 6 HP (little, I know... but I'd hate to waste good EVs)

Metagross (Adamant)
140 HP, 252 Atk, 28 Def, 88 Sp Def
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Old December 27th, 2006 (4:51 AM).
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Those EV's look good for Pokemon with Max IV's. It changes because not all HP numbers are good, so try to get a multiple of 4 when doing that. Then, those EV's that you don't use throw into the Attack stat you are using to deal more damage.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:24 AM).
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Cradily is usually best with a +SDef nature.

Aggron is best with Adamant or Impish, unless you're planning on surprisingly outrunning one of its counters. You don't need that much Def, and usually you dont need Max attack, so spread some of that into HP.

Other than that, everything looks pretty well rounded.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (11:27 AM).
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Cradily is usually best with a +SDef nature.

Aggron is best with Adamant or Impish, unless you're planning on surprisingly outrunning one of its counters. You don't need that much Def, and usually you dont need Max attack, so spread some of that into HP.

Other than that, everything looks pretty well rounded.
Cradily is Modest becauseI got him before everyone else... when I actually started paying attention to the Natures.

As for my Aggron, I hate to say, but... too late. LOL, although, he's a beat when it comes to Defence. It's over 300 with him being around Level 55. His Attack is monster too... but that's not it. When facing someone the same level, I was amazed that he could out run most of the Pokemon with normal speed (not the speed demon bird Pokemon). But if you don't have above average speed, this guy will get the first move. So I'm very happy with how everything worked out.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (1:22 PM).
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Cradily is Modest becauseI got him before everyone else... when I actually started paying attention to the Natures.

Why not go out and catch another one? Modest is a horrible nature for Claydol.
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Old December 27th, 2006 (5:39 PM).
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He cant catch another Cradily
He has to breed with ditto or another in its egg group
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Old December 27th, 2006 (7:55 PM).
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I have a Ditto (I must've bred my Beldum 10 times), but I've already trained my Cradilyup pretty high, and I can'tbe bothered to go through the trouble of breeding until I get a desired nature, and then training him all over again. The extra few points aren't worth it, if you ask me. Besides, a Modest nature has given him a surpringly killer Special Attack. :-D
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Old December 28th, 2006 (7:52 AM).
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Oh, sorry, I read that as Claydol.

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Old December 29th, 2006 (3:03 PM).
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Hello. I'd like to request a team with the following Pokemon. I just got into competetive battling, and I really need some suggestions.

Umbreon (If you could put Baton Pass in this moveset, you'd be my hero.)
Shedinja (I plan to use this against ubers, and whatnot. :P)
Metagross
Breloom
Salamence
Milotic

Yeah, these are the Pokemon that I brainstormed. However, I'm wondering if this is way too predictable. :/ Metagross, Salamence, and Milotic are all commonly used Pokemon.. If you have suggestions for other Pokemon, I'm open to them. (: Thank you. ♥
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Old December 29th, 2006 (7:02 PM).
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Standard Umby has BP xd.

Umbreon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 156 HP / 32 Def / 224 Spd / 96 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Mean Look
- Wish
- Taunt

Uhh standard Chaosbreon. The EVs are a bit messed up because I really don't use it. Speed is correct though because it has Taunt which needs around 222 speed.

Shedinja @ Lum Berry
Trait: Wonder Guard
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Shadow Ball
- Silver Wind
- Swords Dance
- Protect

Sheddy sucks lol.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Explosion

EVs go something like that.

or

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 156 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Meteor Mash
- Agility
- Rock Slide
- Explosion

That'll give you 201 Speed witch will outspeed all of those Agilitygross that go 198-200 speed.

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Spore
- Focus Punch / Swords Dance
- Sky Uppercut / Brick Break
- Hidden Power [Ghost]

or

Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Spore
- Focus Punch
- Leech Seed
- Substitute

Or you can use these EVs on SubSeed Breloom:

EVs: 100 HP / 96 Atk / 216 Def / 96 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)

With those EVs and that nature Breloom's Sub can withstand Adamant Tar's EQ and RS which is fun and can help you get a Focus Punch in but really isn't neccisary and just for kicks. I aimed for 200 speed and put what was left and in attack and it turned out it was split. The defence, HP EVs and nature for it's Sub to live vs. Tar was from Smogon.

Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf
- Toxic

Well there you go.
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I still don't see why people are running this silly 222 Speed on Umbreon. Needs more HP though.
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I still don't see why people are running this silly 222 Speed on Umbreon. Needs more HP though.
You never have silly. It's so it can Taunt faster things!
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like what? vs cune you dont even need that much speed. After that all you have most likely is TTar and Scizor, TTar of which shouldnt really have any business running max speed, and Scizor who has Silver Wind, and prolly still isnt running as fast without Agility.
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like what? vs cune you dont even need that much speed. After that all you have most likely is TTar and Scizor, TTar of which shouldnt really have any business running max speed, and Scizor who has Silver Wind, and prolly still isnt running as fast without Agility.
Well no speed rarely works for me anyway lol.
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never said anything about no speed. 202-214 works fine. Outruns reasonable things
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Old December 30th, 2006 (5:50 AM).
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306 outspeeds the 205 Metagross / Tyranitar, while 222 ties Standard Magneton but that doesn't always help you. Then again, most Magnetons run 225, so I run 226 on my Metagross to kill it before I die. I would just got with 206 for Umbreon.
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never said anything about no speed. 202-214 works fine. Outruns reasonable things
You've used no speed before. Well anyway you can make sure you outspeed more stuff with 222 speed apparently.
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You've used no speed before. Well anyway you can make sure you outspeed more stuff with 222 speed apparently.
I've used no speed, but mainly when I used cool stuff like Curse and Snatch.
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I've used no speed, but mainly when I used cool stuff like Curse and Snatch.
Yeah well Taunt varations need around 222 speed. ^_^
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i only run like, 180 something on my umbreon just so i can taunt 177 skarm's,

if i didnt do that i would go with 206 i guess to taunt tar, but most t-tars have fpunch which you lose too

also max hp umby is better
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I said "212+". Some people like MAX Lefties recovery, but i just use enough HP tog et to 390/391.
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