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Old December 3rd, 2007 (9:06 PM).
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I'm in the making of a pure steel team for a gym, and am rather not doing so well. So I request an all steel balanced out team, of course I'll be the one training it, but I need that little spark in the right direction. Thanks.

These are the supposed pokemon I prefer to use on an all steel team, I've just recently found out the majority of the useful steel types are OU, which I'm not good with. Anyway, here it is. Once again, thanks in advance.

Skarmory
Metagross
Drapion (I need him >< it's ok for me to use him.)
Lucario or Scizor
Aggron
Magneton or Magnezone [I nominate Magneton because I remember he should have levitate(?)]

If you disagree with this being a balanced out steel fix, feel free to cross out a pokemon and add in another. Suggested movesets and nature/EVs are also welcome.
1. None of the Magne's have Levi, although Magnet Rise is an option.
2. Wow.......so many walls, and so little Sweepers. Lemme see if I can magically conjure up a Steel Team off the top of my head (these EV spreads are made up as we go along too).......

Lucario @ Life Orb
Naive/Hasty
204 SPD, 252 SATK, 54 ATK
Close Combat
Dark Pulse
Dragon Pulse
Flash Cannon

Forretress @ Shed Shell/Leftovers
Relaxed/Impish
252 HP, 176 DEF, 82 ATK
Rapid Spin
Spikes
EQ
Gyro Ball

Probopass @ Leftovers/Shed Shell
Bold
252 HP, 80 DEF, 178 SDEF
Explosion
Thunder Wave
Rest
Flash Cannon

Aggron @ Leftovers
Adamant/Impish
252 HP, 176 ATK, 82 DEF
Iron Head
Roar
Stone Edge
EQ

Metagross @ Life Orb
Adamant
108 SPD, 252 ATK, 148 HP (I altered the spread and gave 'Gross 1 more SPD point and 1 less HP Point)
Agility/Rock Polish (Doesn't really matter)
Meteor Mash
EQ
Thunder Punch/Ice Punch/Explosion

Registeel @ Leftovers/Shed Shell
Relaxed/Sassy
252 HP, 44 ATK, 100 DEF, 100 SDEF, 14 SATK (Totally made up 2 seconds ago)
Charge Beam
Thunder Wave
Flash Cannon
Rest

Eh....?
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Old December 3rd, 2007 (10:51 PM).
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What are movesets for...

Drapion - Physical Tank

Toxicroak - Physical Sweeper
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Old December 3rd, 2007 (11:48 PM).
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Lucario @ Life Orb
Naive/Hasty
204 SPD, 252 SATK, 54 ATK
Close Combat
Dark Pulse
Dragon Pulse
Flash Cannon

Fine. Just that i prefer Heatran

Forretress @ Shed Shell/Leftovers
Relaxed/Impish
252 HP, 176 DEF, 82 ATK
Rapid Spin
Spikes
EQ
Gyro Ball

Skarm is better. Period. Especially with SR and spikes out.

Probopass @ Leftovers/Shed Shell
Bold
252 HP, 80 DEF, 178 SDEF
Explosion/StealthRock
Discharge/Tbolt
Rest/Stealth Rock
EarthPower

Stealth rock here is needed. Earth Power to trap and kill Maggy. Discharge over T wave or T bolt for power. Reliable Gyra counter, unless it has EQ, which is rare nowadays. No time to rest either. You either blow up or sleep. Not both.

Aggron @ Leftovers
Adamant/Impish
252 HP, 176 ATK, 82 DEF
Iron Head
Twave/BodySlam
Stone Edge
EQ

This needs Body Slam or T-wave against switch outs. B SLam is for Ground types, of which aggron is a magnet to. Disables the timely Garchomp also that may other wise dance on this team.

Metagross @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 HP, 252 ATK
BulletPunch
Meteor Mash
EQ
Thunder Punch/Ice Punch/Explosion

Bullet Punch here is needed for over-zealous Close Combaters. Put it over Agility and shove all that speedy goodness into some phat def and hp.

Registeel @ Leftovers/Shed Shell
Relaxed/Sassy
252 HP, 44 ATK, 100 DEF, 100 SDEF, 14 SATK (Totally made up 2 seconds ago)
Charge Beam
Thunder Wave
Flash Cannon
Rest

Meh. Not sure. I don't think this team needs a 3rd tank. Maybe something with more support like Zong
Not trying to make this an RMT, just too lazy to make up a totally new one so i decided to work on yours.
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Old December 4th, 2007 (1:05 AM).
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Umm you do realise that after Agility, the only Close Combat user that outspeeds it is a ScarfCross, and even then Cross can't cause the OHKO it needs, which leaves it wide open if Metagross is carrying Zen Headbutt
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Old December 4th, 2007 (3:34 AM).
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And that is assuming he switches out herra on gross which is hardly done by anyone. What i'm saying is what if it switches out on something like probopass? It it can 2 hko a gross with CC (one on the switch out the next on the next turn cuz herra carries scarf and gross can't do s*** about it)

I've played my steel mono for quite some time now and i'm just sharing the usefulness of Bullet Punch on a gross for steel mono teams.
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Old December 4th, 2007 (3:47 AM).
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Can I please get a Ice / Water team that includes Walrein & Milotic please?
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Old December 4th, 2007 (4:36 PM).
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I was thinking of getting a evd shuckle for my team, and heracross. Are they useful? here is the stats on shuckle.

Shuckle Lv 100 - 182 HP, 50 Atk, 614 Def, 45 Sp Atk, 559 Sp Def, 42 Spd
MOVELIST - Double Team - Toxic - Earthquake - Rest
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Old December 4th, 2007 (4:40 PM).
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I was thinking of getting a evd shuckle for my team, and heracross. Are they useful? here is the stats on shuckle.

Shuckle Lv 100 - 182 HP, 50 Atk, 614 Def, 45 Sp Atk, 559 Sp Def, 42 Spd
MOVELIST - Double Team - Toxic - Earthquake - Rest
Heracross rox, shuckle is eh, HUGE def, but very little hp, and HP is what u want..here's my fav hera set...

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Ev's: 252attack/232speed/res in HP

Close combat
Pursuit
Megahorn
Stone-edge

I have desroyed teams w/ this set, CB make everything hurt
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Old December 4th, 2007 (4:42 PM).
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DOuble team is banned in standard play, k?

I got Hera..

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Adamant
252 Spd/252 Atk/4 HP
-Megahorn
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Pursuit/Night Slash
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Old December 4th, 2007 (4:50 PM).
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huh so Shuckle is basically worthless^^" lol.

Hm well here are the stats on the heracross
Shiny Heracross - Lv 100 - 283 HP, 382 Attack, 171 Def, 104 Sp Atk, 209 Sp Def, 262 Speed
MOVELIST - Brick Break - Shadow Claw - Megahorn - Earthquake
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Old December 4th, 2007 (4:52 PM).
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Well, for the Steel team, I thought I did pretty well making one up in 5 minutes.

Water/Ice, huh...............?

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold
Trait: Uh...I think there/s only 1
EVs: Not Sure
Hypnosis
Mirror Coat/Ice Beam
Surf
Recover

Walrein @ Leftovers
Nature: Not Sure
EVs: Not Sure
Trait: ICE HEAL!!!!!!!!
Hail
Subsitute
Rest
Ice Beam

This sounds redundant, but it is a BEAST

Swampert @ Leftovers
???????????????????

Not Sure.........

Starmie @ ???
?
?
?
Rapid Spin
Recover
Ice Beam ?
Thunderbolt ?

Gyarados @ ???
Intimidate
bulkydos not sure but think its 212 hp 16 atk100 spd rest def
adamant
taunt
dd
stone edge
waterfall

and 1 more, im too lazy and too bad with water types
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Old December 4th, 2007 (5:16 PM).
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Your EVs for BulkyDos were perfect.

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EVs:212 HP/180 Def/16 Atk/100 Spd
-Waterfall/Ice fang
-Stone edge/Earthquake
-Taunt
-Dragon Dance
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Old December 4th, 2007 (6:07 PM). Edited December 4th, 2007 by flamehaze94.
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Nope, Ubers are pokes with > 600 with all their stats added up, Celebi has exactly 600

Edit : I guess I can help here too, but dont count on me staying on too long though
(Results may vary, dont get your hopes up :P )
Not exactly, Darkrai haas base 600 stats and it's Uber. As does Manaphy. Heck, even Wobbuffet has only 405 base stats :/


The definition for being in an Uber teir is: This tier contains the Pokemon who are too good to be used in OU, due to their unusually good stats, huge movepools, unpredictability, and overall good typing which would overcentralize the OU metagame.
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Old December 4th, 2007 (6:12 PM).
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Ok I have my team idea, and have some of them of the pokes.

Sceptile (need good nature)
Item focus slash
movesCB, Endvear leaf storm, ?

Garchomp
nature admant
stats 347/391/216/149/175/301
moves swords dance/stone edge/ dragon claw/earthquake
Item ?

Alakazam
Nature timid
Moves ????
ite focus sash

Metegross
nature admant
stats 301/405/296/203/278/177
moves ice punch/meteor mash/earthqucke/agility
Item leftovers

Heracross
The set in Flare, or shir I will use. Which is better?

I need something to hold defense (I was thinking wailord, or snorlax). Also should i replace any my pokes for a good Blance, and everything that I did not say, can I get some advise on what to use^^" Any help is appreciated for my team. (Like something that will work good, with sceptile.)
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Old December 4th, 2007 (6:15 PM).
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Timid is best for Sceptile. And his Subseed Set.
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Old December 4th, 2007 (6:17 PM).
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What move is "CB" on sceptile? Because I'm stumped :0

And flamehaze, Rubberbandman said that back in '05 :0
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Old December 4th, 2007 (6:20 PM).
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Um...

I will request agaign movesets for:

Drapion-Phys. Tank

Toxicroak-Phys. Sweeper
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Old December 4th, 2007 (6:21 PM).
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What move is "CB" on sceptile? Because I'm stumped :0

And flamehaze, Rubberbandman said that back in '05 :0
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Um...

I will request agaign movesets for:

Drapion-Phys. Tank

Toxicroak-Phys. Sweeper
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Old December 4th, 2007 (6:36 PM). Edited December 4th, 2007 by latioslegends.
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I meant counter. I get counter, and close combat mixed for some reason? lol. So What should I do for my team?
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Old December 4th, 2007 (6:46 PM).
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Um...

I will request agaign movesets for:

Drapion-Phys. Tank

Toxicroak-Phys. Sweeper
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Toxicroak @ Choice Band/Scarf
Nature: Jolly / Adamant
Trait: Dry Skin / Anticipation
EV Spread: 6 HP / 252 ATK / 252 SPD

Cross Chop
Poison Jab / X-Scissor
Stone Edge
Earthquake

I'm not familiar with the Physical Set as I usually run the Scarfed Mixed Set.

Drapion @ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Trait: Battle Armor
EV Spread: 200 HP / 56 ATK / 252 DEF

Night Slash / Crunch / Cross Poison
Brick Break / Earthquake / Fire Fang
Knock Off
Toxic Spikes / Screech / Roar
It was in the Q & A thread.
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ok I think I am taking sceptle out. But what would be a good poke to replace it then?
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Old December 4th, 2007 (9:41 PM). Edited December 4th, 2007 by Bobpie.
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It was in the Q & A thread.
Thanks ^_^

This will help with my new team in progress.
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Old December 5th, 2007 (2:38 AM).
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Hi, I'm kinda having problems on deciding on a team, I have sorta 3 pokemon, 2 fin besides items, one decided on using.

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Thunder Bolt
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Surf

[email protected]/16HP/252Atk/ 240Spe
Earthquake
Ice Fang
Dragon Claw
Swords Dance

A Wall of some description with Empoleon?

My environment is mostly OU & BL one, I was thinking of Miltank too, but I don't know how I'd use it. As I am knew to competitive battling, this is kinda hard for me :P That leaves two spaces left, but I don't know what to use. I think one more BL and one more OU, keep them 3/3, as where I battle, the people can get *****y with too many OUs. Thanks to anyone who wants to help me.
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Garchomp can't learn Ice fang :D
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