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Old December 21st, 2007 (7:12 PM).
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I can do Forretress...

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 196 Def
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin

But I <3 rest on it if you can squeeze it in.
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Old December 21st, 2007 (7:16 PM).
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I need movesets for
-Quick Feet Ursaring
-Mixmence
-Forretress
Forretress was done, so what's Quick Feet Ursaring?
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Old December 21st, 2007 (7:22 PM).
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I can do Forretress...

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 196 Def
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin

But I <3 rest on it if you can squeeze it in.
No boom?

I already have a rapid spinner spiker (my bad) so I could use Rest instead of that?
And explosion>gyro ball?

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Forretress was done, so what's Quick Feet Ursaring?
Ursaring with ability Quick Feet + Protect to activate Toxic Orb, doubling Ursaring's speed.
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Old December 21st, 2007 (7:38 PM).
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Forry can exlpode well, but it's really predictable and every time I'd use it, gengar or Dusknoir would just lol at me and it wasn't pretty...

I like rest to wear down opposing sweepers gradually to the point where a clean-up sweeper can just finish everything. Jolteon and Aero do that with great effectiveness. It all depends on your team in some cases. If forry is your only defense against physical attackers, you seriously need to give it rest and not blow it up.
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Old December 21st, 2007 (8:59 PM).
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Forry can exlpode well, but it's really predictable and every time I'd use it, gengar or Dusknoir would just lol at me and it wasn't pretty...

I like rest to wear down opposing sweepers gradually to the point where a clean-up sweeper can just finish everything. Jolteon and Aero do that with great effectiveness. It all depends on your team in some cases. If forry is your only defense against physical attackers, you seriously need to give it rest and not blow it up.
Would that be any different if I told you it's for a double battle team?
Exploding can come in handy then.
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Ursaring with ability Quick Feet + Protect to activate Toxic Orb, doubling Ursaring's speed.
Ah. Okay, then here's mine.

Ursaring @ Toxic Orb; Quick Feet
Adamant; 4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Return/Body Slam
Earthquake
Shadow Claw
Protect

I should warn you that this Ursaring won't survive long. You can use Body Slam if you want the chance at paralysis. Return's more powerful. You also get walled by Bronzong.
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Old December 21st, 2007 (9:33 PM). Edited December 21st, 2007 by GreenFan224.
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Can someone give a good special sweeper and special wall (not bronzong though I already have it) from DP please?
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Old December 21st, 2007 (9:45 PM).
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Lucario, Togekiss, Infernape, and Mismagius are all great choices.
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Old December 21st, 2007 (9:46 PM).
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Ah. Okay, then here's mine.

Ursaring @ Toxic Orb; Quick Feet
Adamant; 4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Return/Body Slam
Earthquake
Shadow Claw
Protect

I should warn you that this Ursaring won't survive long. You can use Body Slam if you want the chance at paralysis. Return's more powerful. You also get walled by Bronzong.
Thanks. That works pretty well. =]
I'll just switch when Bronzong comes out.
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Old December 22nd, 2007 (2:56 AM).
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How is my Torterra,
Torterra @ Leftovers
Overgrow
318HP / 267Atk / 245Def / 151SpcAtk / 193SpdDef / 148Spd
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Hmm, I'm not too familiar with Torterra, but you could try this:

Torterra @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVS: 252 HP/200 Def/58 Atk

Seed Bomb
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Curse/Roar

This is a variant of how I run my Swampert. Used as a Tank/Support, Seed Bomb and EQ for STAB, Curse to improve attacking and defencive capabilities/Roar to Pseudo-Haze or cause damage with Stealth Rock. Just watch out for the 4x Ice weakness.
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Old December 22nd, 2007 (4:35 AM).
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Hmm, I'm not too familiar with Torterra, but you could try this:

Torterra @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVS: 252 HP/200 Def/58 Atk

Seed Bomb
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Curse/Roar

This is a variant of how I run my Swampert. Used as a Tank/Support, Seed Bomb and EQ for STAB, Curse to improve attacking and defencive capabilities/Roar to Pseudo-Haze or cause damage with Stealth Rock. Just watch out for the 4x Ice weakness.
Which is why Torterra needs Stone Edge.
Use someone else to SR. There are plenty of better ones.
eg. Skarmory, Claydol, Donphan
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Old December 22nd, 2007 (6:14 AM).
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Since my team wasn't really completed, could somebody help me improvise off of what I already have?

Sableye
Gengar
Swampert
Salamence

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Okay, requesting a team- (I think that it should work out with the Physical Sweeper/Wall and the Special Sweeper/Wall)

Vaporeon- Special Wall
Blissey- HP
Tyranitar- Filler/Physical Sweeper
Aggron- Physical Wall
Salamance- Physical Sweeper
Roserade- Special Sweeper

I could replace the Tyranitar with a Baton Passer of somthing else uneeded/good to have, but you don't need.
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There's a problem. There's so many weaknesses against fighting.
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There's a problem. There's so many weaknesses against fighting.
Who was that directed to? Me? If so, change my team as you wish.
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Old December 22nd, 2007 (9:19 AM).
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Since my team wasn't really completed, could somebody help me improvise off of what I already have?

Sableye
Gengar
Swampert
Salamence

Thanks. All help is appreciated.
Using Forretress and Rhyperior with those four would be interesting.
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Old December 22nd, 2007 (9:22 AM).
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But what about Rhyperior? It has two major weaknesses, in which I already have 1, grass. Sorry, it's just that I want to make a great team. You probably know more about competitive play than I do.
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Old December 22nd, 2007 (9:30 AM).
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But what about Rhyperior? It has two major weaknesses, in which I already have 1, grass. Sorry, it's just that I want to make a great team. You probably know more about competitive play than I do.
To be honest, I've never come close to a competitive Pokémon environment in my life. I just named the two Pokémon that came into my head that didn't share a ton of weaknesses with the other four. As for the Water and Grass enemies, Forretress can wall them both while Spiking or something, and you have Salamence as added protection against Grass.

Oh, I should probably mentioned Rhyperior's ability, Solid Rock, which lessens damage from a super effective attack.
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Does anyone have a moveset for vaporeon as a special wal and special sweeper?

well sweeping isn't its thing w/ that little speed, wish support and walling would be the best IMO

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how about a probopass any movesets for that one
I'll take this one.

Probopass @ Leftovers; Magnet Pull
Bold; 252 HP, 172 Defense, 84 Special Defense
Flash Cannon
Discharge
Stealth Rock
Iron Defense

Your basic wall and entry hazard. I prefer Iron Defense here instead of Magnet Rise, because most Ground and Fighting attacks used these days are physical, and Magnet Rise leaves you vunerable to Gravity (I think) and Fighting attacks. The exceptions are Aura Sphere (on Lucario, Togekiss, and ubers) and Earth Power (on ubers). Discharge and Magnet Pull make this guy a Skarmory counter, but watch out for Whirlwind/Roar. This may be a non-issue, though, considering the 30% chance Discharge will paralyze. Flash Cannon's for STAB and its side effect, a 10% shot at lowering the target's Special Defense. Probopass doesn't get any Rock attacks that are Special, and his/her Attack is downright pathetic, so even though Steel is horrible on offense, I chose Flash Cannon because nothing's immune to it.

To be honest, Probopass is terrible. It has a double weakness to both Fighting and Ground, making it VERY vunerable, even with the high Defense and Special Defense. Be very careful with this.
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