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Old December 2nd, 2005 (8:11 AM).
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So I'm working on a new team, but can't decide on the last spot:

Heracross (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
-Megahorn
-Rest
-Rock Slide
-Sleep Talk


Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 180 Def / 20 SAtk / 68 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Surf


Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 24 Atk / 252 Def / 36 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
-Drill Peck
-Roar
-Spikes
-Taunt

I'm a little indecisive over Taunt vs Rest so I just said Taunt.


Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 112 Atk / 80 Def / 112 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
-Earthquake
-Rest
-Return
-Shadow Ball


Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 68 SAtk / 108 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
-Baton Pass
-Protect
-Surf
-Wish

I'm thinking on scratching BP for Ice Beam or Haze.


Any ideas on what to add?
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Old December 2nd, 2005 (10:33 AM).
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So I'm working on a new team, but can't decide on the last spot:

Heracross (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
-Megahorn
-Rest
-Rock Slide
-Sleep Talk
go with a more defensive EV spread, imo; 76 HP / 132 Atk / 252 Spd / rest in SDef.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 180 Def / 20 SAtk / 68 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Surf
k

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 24 Atk / 252 Def / 36 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
-Drill Peck
-Roar
-Spikes
-Taunt

I'm a little indecisive over Taunt vs Rest so I just said Taunt.
k

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 112 Atk / 80 Def / 112 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
-Earthquake
-Rest
-Return
-Shadow Ball
since you have wish support, consider Curse over Rest.

Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 68 SAtk / 108 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
-Baton Pass
-Protect
-Surf
-Wish

I'm thinking on scratching BP for Ice Beam or Haze.
Sub>Protect

Any ideas on what to add?
Well, this team can't really take on physical walls too well. You also lack a spinner, so switching will cost alot, as Skarmory can easily get some spikes set down on Cross and Lax. Starmie in that 6th slot could help with both problems, as could Magneton.
Other than that, everything looks ok.
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (11:43 AM).
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So I'm working on a new team, but can't decide on the last spot:

Heracross (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
-Megahorn
-Rest
-Rock Slide
-Sleep Talk
I would go with a Brick Break over Sleep Talk and use a Chesto, but that's just IMO.

Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 180 Def / 20 SAtk / 68 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Ice Beam
-Surf
ok

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 24 Atk / 252 Def / 36 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
-Drill Peck
-Roar
-Spikes
-Taunt
No Rest. But I wouldn't choose Taunt either, unless it is phazer protection
I'm a little indecisive over Taunt vs Rest so I just said Taunt.


Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 112 Atk / 80 Def / 112 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
-Earthquake
-Rest
-Return
-Shadow Ball
An ATK Lax is usually Adamant. And Belly Drum over EQ. It can hurt alot anyway. 252 ATK/128 HP/128 SD

Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 68 SAtk / 108 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
-Baton Pass
-Protect
-Surf
-Wish
Surf, IB, Haze, Wish with Modest support and 252 HP/128 SA/128 SD
I'm thinking on scratching BP for Ice Beam or Haze.


Any ideas on what to add?
Vap is really not fast enough to be a spec sweeper, so you may need one. Starmie is a good choice, but I suggest high power set using the most powerful attacks Starmie learns(Surf, T/Bolt, Psychic). This, with Mild support and 252 SA/252 SPD will sweep very well. Kills anything without high SD easily. Rapid Spin for fourth spot.
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (2:38 PM).
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@ Torkoal: I purposely left a spinner out, because am recently learning to play without spinning :D 1337 ideas though.

@E4:
Heracross: The whole idea of this is sleep talking ._. And hera with Rest and no talk is just a death wish.
Skarmory: "I'm a little indecisive over Taunt vs Rest so I just said Taunt."
Snorlax: Belly Drum on Snorlx phails; accept the truth plz.
Vaporeon: Yes, actually good advice, But I need my Def EVs.

My religion is against SweeperStarmie on a serious team anymore =/. And even then, Rapid Spin requires Recover on the same set. If I do choose a special sweeper, it'll be Zapdos or Gengar.

Pyro has recently suggested Flygon, but I'm a little iffy on that.
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (3:09 PM).
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You could use BB/FP over rest. Or should I say you HAVE to since that heracross can't take a hit.
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (3:16 PM).
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Vaporeon likes Sub>Protect. Passing it to stuff like Pert is always cool
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