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Old December 3rd, 2005 (4:49 PM).
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Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

hp ice is so sexy, so don't mess with it, and I know it needs more sp.def ._.

Claydol @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 73 Def / 201 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Ice Beam
- Rest

weird ev's, need to test them.

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 176 HP / 66 Atk / 252 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

other ev's don't work :\

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 84 Atk / 76 Def / 144 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

lax is tha man.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 242 HP / 96 Def / 60 Spd / 112 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf

weird ev's :\

Heracross (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

gfg.

ok go.
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (8:52 PM).
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Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

You should like killing Pert, so shut up, cause you ph4il.

hp ice is so sexy, so don't mess with it, and I know it needs more sp.def ._.

Claydol @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 73 Def / 201 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Ice Beam
- Rest

I can't even remember if those are the EVs I gave you.

weird ev's, need to test them.

Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 176 HP / 66 Atk / 252 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

Sure.

other ev's don't work :\

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 84 Atk / 76 Def / 144 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Curselax.

lax is tha man.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 242 HP / 96 Def / 60 Spd / 112 SAtk
Bold
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf

More Def, and Special Def, take it out of Sp.atk. Nice radom two EVs thrown in there on HP.

weird ev's :\

Heracross (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant
- Brick Break
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

gfg.

ok go.

You should use Zappy somewhere in there, just because he's awesome.
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (8:58 PM).
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Hp ice>you. The ev's from claydol are mine. Suicune is weird, but I learned it needs more sp.atk. Adamant fails since I had adamant and couldn't hit many things, FP> lax, blissey and maybe skarm since I haven't used FP on a skarm.
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (9:11 PM).
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Hp ice>you. The ev's from claydol are mine. Suicune is weird, but I learned it needs more sp.atk. Adamant fails since I had adamant and couldn't hit many things, FP> lax, blissey and maybe skarm since I haven't used FP on a skarm.
Hidden Power [Grass] is much more usefull. They suck. NO cause if it has 6 CMs+Rest it will not die, if your not dumb. Adamant is cool for CBer's, it works better than Jolly. I never said get rid of FP, but Sleep Talk is the best, cause you can use it to get Guts abuse.:\
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (9:18 PM).
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Ok actually to me hp ice is more useful >.>, suicune survives a lot, adamant fails in hera I don't know why. I just noticed you said to take out eq in hera, but I don't know it might work. Never tried Sleep talk but it might work too.
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (9:44 PM).
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Ok actually to me hp ice is more useful >.>, suicune survives a lot, adamant fails in hera I don't know why. I just noticed you said to take out eq in hera, but I don't know it might work. Never tried Sleep talk but it might work too.
No HP [Grass] means getting owned by Pert, plus you have Claydol to I-Beam, which you should replace with Zappy with HP [Ice]. Suicune will survive more with my suggestions. Brick Break works a lot better on Hera than EQ does. Sleep Talk is really good, switch into a Hypnosis, and let the fun begin.:D
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I have hera as a swampy counter ._., and I might try the sleep talk hera thingy idea.
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I have hera as a swampy counter ._., and I might try the sleep talk hera thingy idea.
Raikou, or Sceptile will work better as a Swampy counter.

Do BB on Hera too.
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Ok I'll use BB on hera, and sleep talk too.
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Old December 3rd, 2005 (11:35 PM). Edited December 3rd, 2005 by Squarewalker.
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Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

hp ice is so sexy, so don't mess with it, and I know it needs more sp.def ._.
go with 60 HP / 216 Spd / rest in SAtk.

Claydol @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 236 HP / 73 Def / 201 SDef
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Ice Beam
- Rest

weird ev's, need to test them.
Claydol w/o Rapid Spin is lol, as that's the main reason to use it for ._.
go with 236 HP / 56 Atk / 136 Def / rest in SDef, and Spin over Boom.


Skarmory (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 176 HP / 66 Atk / 252 Def / 16 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Drill Peck
- Rest
- Roar
- Spikes

other ev's don't work :\
needs 196 HP EVs for max lefties recovery.

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 84 Atk / 76 Def / 144 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

lax is tha man.
why sassy, when you can just go with careful nature to not get beat in a curselax stall-war?

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 242 HP / 96 Def / 60 Spd / 112 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Surf

weird ev's :\
lol modest, more like bold, and 212 Def EVs. Since you have spikes, go with Roar over IB.

Heracross (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

gfg.
Earthquake has no use on heracross, use Brick Brake or HP Ghost. also, use adamant nature on it.
This team is going to get walled by skarmbliss hard, though good thing that no one uses it anymore.
Also, too many resters, so IMO go with Celebi/Blissey over Snorlax to have a cleric, and Dusclops/Gengar over Raikou (to block rapid spin) for full stall.
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