Happy Chri-HOLIDAYS! Page 3

Started by pokejungle December 11th, 2005 7:07 PM
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I was so going to start a thread like this.

It not only disturbs me but ticks the living dayouts out of me. I am stick of hearing "Happy Holidays", what Holiday are they taking about? Is Lincoln's Birthday the holiday they are talking about?
All I hear from people is "It offends me to hear "Merry Christmas", all I got to say is "You people offend me". And show me where it says "You have the right to not be offended". I'm a Christian (I'm Baptist) so when people take Christ out Christmas it's pisses me off. Jesus is the reason for the Christmas season. Now it hasn't got to were they will take out mangers and everything Christ and leave other stuff. But it has gotten so far that kids can't have Santa toys in schools, no classes can hang up Santa cut-outs, and it has even gotten as bad as kids can't wear both read and green (like a red and green shirt) to school around Christmas time. People that works at stores can't say "Merry Christmas" because some places has fired them over it (sure they were warned saying you can't say it, but that's not the point). It's done went past the "Do away with Christ" part (to me Santa is fine for little kids, but when I was a kid I did think there was a Santa. But at the same time my parents did teach me the real, true meaning of Christmas) and it has gotten to the "Do away with Christmas" ways now.

Now like Blaze said, people does it and says "Happy Holidays" because it's going to offend people. Ok so it offends atheists that we say "Merry Christmas", well they can go jump in a lake. The US was founded on Christianity, what is so wrong with taking a that one day out of the rest of the year to celebrate Christ (all the Holidays we got is Christmas, Easter and Thanksgiving, the other 362 days has nothing going on or other Holidays like Veteran's Day, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa etc going on).

I just think it's sad that it'll "offend" a few atheists when the US is made up of like 75-85% Christian (or something along them lines, it might be 75-85% believe in some Religion). The fact is most people believe in a higher power, just different Religions. It's just a small group of people that wants it gone. And most of that 15-25% that's left doesn't really care. As in they think saying Merry Christmas is fine.
And in Gov stuff it all falls under "The Separation of Church and State", they use that term that isn't anywhere in the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution. But people use it to take Christmas stuff off of Gov places.

Over all I think it's sad that every place you turn they are removing Christmas. Not only the Religious part (well for some time that's been gone) but the whole thing itself. All because it offends a few people, and we just can't have something like that. I am glad that the Capital did change the name of it's tree, it was called a "Holiday Tree" but they did change it to it's rightful name, a Christmas Tree. If enough people stand up then I do think things will start to roll back a little to the way it used to be (Where you won't get a shock because you say "Merry Christmas").

I know I ranted, but I'm good with ranting. XD

Andy I love you XDDD

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*hates atheists*

Sooner or later the govt. has got to realize that we are a christian country, and our religious freedom is being opressed if we are forced to saying generic sayings

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Well, now we've gotten to the point where Christmas isn't even politcally correct, even as a commerical holiday-

New thought:

How is it that they stamp all religon out of Christmas...and then suddenly it's TOO religous to be used by name?! "Dear, I bought our holiday tree tonight!"
well, I got an answer for that, people are afraid other religion's members might get mad because their religion is not cared about or something like that, with all the conflicts coming from religion nowadays, too bad

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Wow only 3 holidays, do we seriously need to make a generic name for it?

AND ONE ISN'T EVEN A REAL HOLIDAY XD

*boycotts Wal-Mart*

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*hates atheists*

Sooner or later the govt. has got to realize that we are a christian country, and our religious freedom is being opressed if we are forced to saying generic sayings
We don't hate anyone~ We dislike their opinions. But I don't bother with that, simply because I don't believe atheism exists.

And everyone should already be boycotting Wal Mart XD GO TARGET!

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I'm actually pleasantly surprised that you all are on this side of the argument; I thought I would be the only one thinking this way. My main problem with the replacement of the word "Christmas" with the word "holiday" (besides the fact that it's offensive to my deeply-held religious convictions) is that the people who do it have absolutely no reason to. It's mainly part of the ongoing and stealthy war on Christianity by militantly-secular organizations that use their incredible wealth and army of lawyers to crush smalltown America underfoot. And why? Just because they can.

This is so because they demonstrate outright intolerance. It is irrational for someone, especially someone who practices no religion at all, to be offended by not ALL religious observations, but ONE in particular. They don't like the prevalance of Christianity in public culture, therefore they think they can eradicate it in the name of political correctness. Note that Menorahs are not called "holiday candelabras", or any official object for Kwanzaa, Tet, Ramadan, or any other holiday. Just Christmas.

Yes, this was brief for something so important to me, but it's only an opening statement. I plan to prove my point mainly by adding on to other peoples' points (or combatting them if need be.) Though, it would be nice if this didn't have to be a debate and we all had consensus that Christmas is under attack <_<;

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Yay for Andy rants~! <3 XD

I agree about the atheist thing... no offense to anyone who is, of course. ._.; I just find it somewhat insulting that they can push their views about being anti-Christmas on us, when we can't be pre-Christmas without someone being "offended". A lot of my friends at school are either atheists or "relaxed" Catholics( aka agnostics basically...), as they call themselves. Even though they don't believe in Jesus as the son of God or religion, I still hear them talking about buying Christmas trees and celebrating Christmas. Why celebrate a holiday for a religion you don't believe in? It's because it's been turned into a commercial holiday and nothing more...

I don't see why all of a sudden we need to change the name of Christmas trees and everything else, just because a few people claim to be offended by it...

MB-- The US isn't a Christian country, not solely. Sure most of the people that founded it had strong religious beliefs, but that's changed a lot. And don't say you hate atheists... that's what causes all these religious debates in the first place. ><; You should respect people for their beliefs~

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I don't like how sinful organizations and ideas use Catholic terms and ideas just to make us mad and opress us.

Like the 'under god" part. What kind of person sues over that? That offends me deeply

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I don't like how sinful organizations and ideas use Catholic terms and ideas just to make us mad and opress us.
Even though I'm not a Catholic, I know that it's so reviled by secularists because of its incredibly-high level of moral clarity.

I was surprised too actually Kaga~
This time last year.......ugh.......I don't even want to think what this thread would have been like.

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I was surprised too actually Kaga~

Usually PC takes the more religon-less side on arguments. Yay for us all loving Christmas ^^;

ZOMG! We need to start a banner-sig campaign at PC! 0_0; Tomorrow I'll make banners <33 Someone help me!
I know I am rather happy for such a outburst of support like this, I was used to atheists at PC.

[recalls my many fights in the T Dome about religion and God]

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Yule is the period from December 24-January 6...more commonly known as the Twelve Days of Christmas. January 6 is the traditional date of the celebration of the visit of the three Magi. I don't celebrate it; though...I'm not sure what denominations do, actually.

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Yule is sometimes used as another word for Christmas and/or the Christmas Season, but it's actually a Germanic feast of the Pagan God Jul. The Catholic Church merged it with Christmas a loooong time ago though.

And Wiccans celebrate it, I think. *could be very very wrong* But I wouldn't know how that goes. I'm Roman Catholic.

I don't really know what to say that wouldn't be repeating what you've all said already.. But I totally agree *nods*

I ESPECIALLY hate it when all the commercials on television have the family Christmas parties with people saying "Happy Holidays!". It makes me want to crash the TV >__>

I can understand the 'Happy Holidays' in public thing, but you'd think more people would say 'Merry Christmas' in the comfort of their own homes..

And the 'Holiday Tree' thing is so messed up.
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

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Whoa never knew there we so many Roman Catholics ;P

and the name "Holiday Tree" is pure rubbish, I mean your not getting a tree for Kwanza or Hannukah

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We celebrate both Advent and Epiphany in my church. And Christmas, of course. XD

The commercialization and the removal of Christ from Christmas really sickens me. I mean, sure, presents are great, but that's not what Christmas is all about. And we have the right to free speech, and freedom of religion. Therefore, we have the right to call it what it is: Christmas. We can't be restricted from calling it that, just because it has the C word (oh noes =O). The whole Xmas thing drives me insane for the same reason. People are trying to remove all traces of Christianity from Christmas and society as a whole, and it's really sad. =/

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No one mentioned the best part of what those who are offended with "******"mas wants. Think about this clearly. Now, let's gather what is offending to them

a) saying Merry ******mas is offensive because that's imposing a religious belief on them
b) dressing in "******mas-suggestive" clothing is equally offensive, same reason as above
c) saying Merry ******mas is treating ******anity as a more "important" religion than all the others during this time of the year

What's not offending to them then?

a) go on "Christmas break!" they have no problem with that, and is in fact all for it.

Riiight... kill the holiday, but reap the break for it. In the future, Dec 25 is going to be "Hmm I don't know what the heck we are doing, or why we are doing this, but today will be a day off. Same thing for the day before and the day after, too." The next thing that happens is that coka-cola is prohibited in december because they are also suggestive of ******mas for taking a major role in the creation of the story of Santa Claus.

Good job, kids >>;


Hmm how come no one flipped the table by saying "You are repressing our religious freedom to celebrate ******mas in public!" Or "You're imposing your non-christian beliefs on me."

(PS sidenote: how's lutheran a part of catholicism and not protestants... I do believe that the leader of the protestant reformation, Martin Luther, will most likely form a protestant denomination himself instead of catholicism ;p it's all good in the end. The only denominations which I must raise an eyebrow against are the United Church/Methodist/"Liberal" Churchs personally. I just want to be technical with religious vocabulary, because we must always be "politically correct")

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Hmm how come no one flipped the table by saying "You are repressing our religious freedom to celebrate ******mas in public!" Or "You're imposing your non-christian beliefs on me."
Because for the most part, it's not a big problem and likely never will be. The argument it's so contradictory, 'freedom of speech' can be flung around both ways in this...that or we can all just say 'Happy Nondenominational December Consolidated Holiday Day Everyone!' but that's never going to happen. I myself don't see this as a small problem unless it gets pushed for in greater numbers. Taking away the right to just say the name of the holiday takes away the right to say the name of any holiday that having to do with the men or women that found the country.
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Ok. Christmas end at about jan 6 or 9 but that the ending of the nativity prayer thing we do.

I my school we were doing this prblem a month or 3 ago on naming this spirit day we decided to have. We were trying to find a name for this spirit day and it was CHristmas dress up day or Winter HOildays dress up day. We dicided to call it Winter Hoildays. Now we are about 15 to 18 when we decided on this and still in high school and celelbrate Christmas but it must be bad when we trying to word it out so we won't get in trouble. I mean we are an school organization for goodness sakes!! We should be worrying about that.

I don't like it eirher that we taking Christ out of Chrismas and I expectly don't like it we taking CHristmas out the rseason. I mean whe you think about all religions are the same. We believe that we are good and bad is bad in some form or way. Why do they care if we say Merry Christmas? I mean one of the things religions preach about is tolerence right? So can they toluate us when we say Merry Christmas? This country was base on that belife too. Tolurate us please. I do. I don't care if you celebrate some other celebration. To me your religion created that celebration so you don't feel left out in the Christmas celebration. I mean Christmas came frist or vice versa. Doesn't matter just do your thing and don't hurt others in while celbrating it.

Totluance I pearch about. Please don't ruin mycelebration becasue you don't like me and others saying Merry Christmas. "Merry Christmas you all"

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Wow, all this hatred to atheists in this thread. What happened to you Christians being all loving and crap? I'm atheist and I can see the BS is taking out Christmas and replacing it with holidays. We're not all like that. To me, Christmas is just a word, and getting offended by a word makes baby Jesus cry.

Oh yeah, and I hate Christians but I am reaping the benefits of your holiday. Ha ha!