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Old December 13th, 2005 (2:50 PM).
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This team is good, but its missing something.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 60 HP / 140 Def / 152 Spd / 80 SAtk / 76 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Light Screen
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Gyarados (F) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Taunt

I know about the ev's

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Recover
- Swords Dance

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 84 Atk / 76 Def / 144 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 208 Def / 60 Spd
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Heracross (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
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Old December 13th, 2005 (3:43 PM). Edited December 14th, 2005 by Mullet.
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This team is good, but its missing something.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: [b]64 HP / 252 Spd / 192 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Sleep Talk
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Best set.

Gyarados (F) @ Lefties
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 148 HP / 160 Atk / 184 Def / 16 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Taunt

There's your EVs.

I know about the ev's

Celebi @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Recover
- Swords Dance

Good *coughIgaveyouthiscough* lol, or you could go Celejump.

Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 160 HP / 96 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Rest
- Return
- Shadow Ball

I like those EVs, but if you want attack, take some out of Sp.def.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 8 Spd / 24 SAtk / 26 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

I use those EVs, and I find them to work, but you might want more speed, so take them out of S.def, and S.atk depending on how many you want.

Heracross (F) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Focus Punch/Sleep Talk
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Standard.
It's more fun to pass to Mence, and then DD for Speed, lol. Hope this helps!
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Old December 13th, 2005 (5:01 PM).
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Skarm walls alot here. If Absol had better defenses it'd be better than Celebi in this cae.............it'd also be uber as well IMO.
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Old December 13th, 2005 (7:25 PM).
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Skarm doesn't really "wall" since he has zapdos, cune, hera.

You are WALLED TO HELL by weezing (with a little bit Sdef. lol it works).
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Old December 14th, 2005 (1:26 AM).
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Shadowball>HPfight on Celebi
and with that use Earthquake Lax

and get a normal resist Tauros rapes this team big time..
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Old December 14th, 2005 (5:14 AM).
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That team has a stupidly huge CBmence weak, so go with HP Ice over Grass on Zappy, as Suicune, Celebi and Gyarados handle Swampert well enough already anyway. Also, get a normal resist... Metagross over Heracross could work, imo.
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Old December 14th, 2005 (2:58 PM).
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Shadowball>HPfight on Celebi
and with that use Earthquake Lax

and get a normal resist Tauros rapes this team big time..
Umm HP [Fighting] kills Houndoom, Lax, Tar, and Bliss, it works.

Shadow Ball over Earthquake on Lax, other wise you Curse up, and they laugh at you with Dusclops/Gengar.
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Old December 14th, 2005 (5:26 PM).
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Umm HP [Fighting] kills Houndoom, Lax, Tar, and Bliss, it works.

Shadow Ball over Earthquake on Lax, other wise you Curse up, and they laugh at you with Dusclops/Gengar.
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Shadowball>HPfight on Celebi
and with that use Earthquake Lax

and get a normal resist Tauros rapes this team big time..
Nobody uses tauros anymore since there is CBmence, CBhera,CBgross, and all those sexier CBers.

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That team has a stupidly huge CBmence weak, so go with HP Ice over Grass on Zappy, as Suicune, Celebi and Gyarados handle Swampert well enough already anyway. Also, get a normal resist... Metagross over Heracross could work, imo.
I can always try CBgross :\
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Old December 14th, 2005 (8:11 PM). Edited December 14th, 2005 by TwinScythe.
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Umm HP [Fighting] kills Houndoom, Lax, Tar, and Bliss, it works.

Shadow Ball over Earthquake on Lax, other wise you Curse up, and they laugh at you with Dusclops/Gengar.
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thats the point, Shadowball Gengars on the way to setting up with the Celebi
and EQ + Rest laughs at Clops. HP Fight isn't really needed since Houndoom, Lax, T-tar and Bliss can't OHKO you and you get a free dance.
and unlike lame Return Earthquake actually does decent damage to steelix and meta..

and I use Tauros D:<<
that sexy ****** lays a dent on alot of **** and Intimidate
is very handy imo, STAB Normal attacks are everywhere iirc
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Old December 15th, 2005 (6:45 AM).
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thats the point, Shadowball Gengars on the way to setting up with the Celebi
and EQ + Rest laughs at Clops. HP Fight isn't really needed since Houndoom, Lax, T-tar and Bliss can't OHKO you and you get a free dance.
and unlike lame Return Earthquake actually does decent damage to steelix and meta..

and I use Tauros D:<<
that sexy ****** lays a dent on alot of **** and Intimidate
is very handy imo, STAB Normal attacks are everywhere iirc
Gengar can't OHKO you anyway. If they see you are SDing up they probally won't send in Gar knowin that they are packing wither HP [Fighting] or SB. Steelix doesn't show up in the OU metagame. With enough Curses Meta can't do anything to Lax, and Lax can kill it with Shadowball.:\
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Old December 15th, 2005 (7:28 AM).
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Steelix doesn't show up in the OU metagame. With enough Curses Meta can't do anything to Lax, and Lax can kill it with Shadowball.
Steelix does actually show up in the OU metagame once in a while. And how would Metagross be unable to kill Lax? Meteor Mash is like a 3HKO, even after 2 curses iirc, while Shadow Ball won't do anything to gross.
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Old December 15th, 2005 (7:52 AM). Edited December 15th, 2005 by Mullet.
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Steelix does actually show up in the OU metagame once in a while. And how would Metagross be unable to kill Lax? Meteor Mash is like a 3HKO, even after 2 curses iirc, while Shadow Ball won't do anything to gross.
I've seen Steelix in the OU Metagame, only once or twice.

It all depends on how many Curses Lax has if he has 6, then he will survive, and kill Meta, I've done it before, and did the calculation. If I made a calculation mistake then tell me.
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It all depends on how many Curses Lax has if he has 6, then he will survive, and kill Meta, I've done it before, and did the calculation. If I made a calculation mistake than tell me.
Yeah, because the opponent will let Lax to get in 6 Curses instead of switching in Metagross straight away and killing it... ._.
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Old December 15th, 2005 (8:31 AM).
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Yeah, because the opponent will let Lax to get in 6 Curses instead of switching in Metagross straight away and killing it... ._.
Yeah, because I've got Curses off against a Meta, while it was in and then killed it.:\
 

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