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Old December 23rd, 2005 (4:45 PM).
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So I was thinking of a set for Maggie:

- Thunder
- Reflect
- Metal Sound
- Substitute

It's basically a change of Thunderbolt to Thunder on a Reflect maggie, but thats just as an attempt to still OHKO Forry without HP Fire. I don't have access to a Damage Calculator atm, so is that even possibly without a generous amount of SAtk EVs?
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Old December 23rd, 2005 (4:47 PM).
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So I was thinking of a set for Maggie:

- Thunder
- Reflect
- Metal Sound
- Substitute

It's basically a change of Thunderbolt to Thunder on a Reflect maggie, but thats just as an attempt to still OHKO Forry without HP Fire. I don't have access to a Damage Calculator atm, so is that even possibly without a generous amount of SAtk EVs?
What is Forry's usually Sp.def?

I'll use Maggy with 252 Sp.atk, without the nature then with it.
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Old December 23rd, 2005 (4:55 PM).
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Well idk, but I'm writing in Light Screen on Forretress on my teams on paper now, so its definitely not OHKO ingTHAT >.>.
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Old December 23rd, 2005 (5:06 PM). Edited December 23rd, 2005 by Mullet.
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Well idk, but I'm writing in Light Screen on Forretress on my teams on paper now, so its definitely not OHKO ingTHAT >.>.
I could just do max Sp.def.

Edit: It doesn't OHKO him, if he has max Sp.def. Never added in +Sp.def nature. I also don't know his standard EVs, so I can't really help that much.
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Old December 23rd, 2005 (5:44 PM).
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non-light screen Forry standard EVs dont usually have SDef EVs iirc.
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Old December 23rd, 2005 (6:31 PM).
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non-light screen Forry standard EVs dont usually have SDef EVs iirc.

I know that dude.

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Old December 23rd, 2005 (6:55 PM).
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I could just do max Sp.def.

Edit: It doesn't OHKO him, if he has max Sp.def. Never added in =Sp,def nature. I also don't know his standard EVs, so I can't really help that much.
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I don't know EV numbers, but you have 400 def(w/Impish nature), 320 HP, rest in attack.
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I don't know EV numbers, but you have 400 def(w/Impish nature), 320 HP, rest in attack.
Thanks Ham that helped a lot.

It does OHKO Forry, even with Light Screen (if I filled in the damage calculator correctly).
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Old December 24th, 2005 (1:55 AM).
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Edit: It doesn't OHKO him, if he has max Sp.def.
I lol'd. Why would it have max SDef in the first place?

Standard Forry EVs are 244 HP / 16 Atk / 252 Def iirc.
Magneton's Thunder isn't a sure OHKO on it. The damage is between 88% and 104%, thus, there's the chance of Thunder missing... =/
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Old December 24th, 2005 (5:38 AM).
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Forretress (M) @ Leftovers ** I'm standard
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 64 Atk / 192 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin

standard according to Smogon. why it has maxed HP now is beyond me.
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I lol'd. Why would it have max SDef in the first place?

Standard Forry EVs are 244 HP / 16 Atk / 252 Def iirc.
Magneton's Thunder isn't a sure OHKO on it. The damage is between 88% and 104%, thus, there's the chance of Thunder missing... =/
Just because I could do it that way, lol.

I did the damagle calculations on NB, it was a sure OHKO if it hit.
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Old December 24th, 2005 (6:41 AM). Edited December 24th, 2005 by Squarewalker.
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I did the damagle calculations on NB, it was a sure OHKO if it hit.
Of course it said it was an OHKO, because you did the calculations with a Forry that has a 320 HP stat, while 244 HP EVs or max gives it 352/354 HP respectively, which changes to KO range.
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