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Old December 25th, 2005 (4:33 PM). Edited December 26th, 2005 by asianmang.
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Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers ** Leviathan
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP / 56 Atk / 164 Def / 16 Spd / 60 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Taunt

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Quetzalcoatl
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 236 HP / 22 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt

Salamence (M) @ Choice Band ** Dreamer
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Metagross @ Choice Band ** Gangrape
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Nightingale
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Counter
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Wish

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers ** Phantastic
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Roar
- Rock Slide
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Old December 25th, 2005 (7:22 PM).
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Salamence (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast/Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

Sure.

oh my so unexpected :9

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 236 HP / 16 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice/[Grass]]
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt

I'd imagine 20 speed is to outspeed other Zappy's, just go with 16 Speed.

zapdos god why doesnt anyone use this!

Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Rock Slide

Okay.

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Donphan (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Roar
- Rock Slide

[b]I like Rest on him.
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maybe ill use hp grass for other donphans!

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- T-Wave/I-Beam
- Aromatherpy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Stupid Bliss IMO. Use the standard. If you want to use I-Beam Bliss use at least 215 Sp.atk to OHKO Mence.

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Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 212 HP / 236 Def / 4 Spd / 56 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Those are Squarewalker's EVs. They work very nicely.

maybe ill use double-edge for those pesky blisseys!
Hope this helps.[/font]
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Old December 25th, 2005 (7:28 PM).
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i dont want the standard bliss which is pretty stupid imo when i can counter swampert pretty well

zapdos has those evs to outrun metagrosses/brelooms
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Old December 26th, 2005 (12:23 AM).
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Use Flamethrower > FB on mence, it will still 2HKO Skarm.
Wish > Softboiled on Bliss imo, you have Protect to make that effective anyway.
Cursepert is going to be a pain to kill, especially if it has rest to outstall Milo, and won't start EQing Bliss straight away... I'd go with HP Grass on Zapdos for that.
Other than that though, no glaring weaks.


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Old December 26th, 2005 (5:54 AM).
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Replaced softboiled with wish on blissey :chinese:

Fire blast isn't only for skarm but for metagross and things that might otherwise have pumped up hp's or sdef's and be able to take two flamethrowers :( :( :( :)
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Old December 26th, 2005 (9:18 AM). Edited December 26th, 2005 by Mullet.
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i dont want the standard bliss which is pretty stupid imo when i can counter swampert pretty well

zapdos has those evs to outrun metagrosses/brelooms
Well then just use HP [Grass] on Zappy to counter to counter Swampert.

Then if you really want them then the 20 Speed EVs is okay, but I haven't seen Brelooms in a long time. Donphan, and Mence can already counter Meta anyway.
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Old December 26th, 2005 (10:52 AM).
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Fire Blast is for a variety of things, but mainly to cripple Skarm. Sure both can 2HKO, but I've seen Skarms heal off Flamtrhower damage easier than they could FB damage. Plus Fire Blast has more of a potential to KO off a CH. Cool Counterbliss btw. But You might want the Standard with Ice Beam, because this team has sort of a McIceGar weak.
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Old December 26th, 2005 (12:59 PM).
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edited. took some of your advice. mcgar loves this team ;(
 

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